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To be increasung concerned about Restore Britain.

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NoisyHiker · 11/06/2026 07:20

I know many people don't like Owen Jones, but I found this article deeply disturbing.

I am a child of immigrants, and my children are mixed race. So things like this are really starting to worry me.

I completely understand why people are angry at the current rate and quality of immigration (my own family are also disgruntled with it). But Restore want to deport even those who have citizenship.

And I am genuinely concerned that things are going to get worse than Farage if the government don't get a grip on this.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/10/restore-britain-right-politics-white-supremacist

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BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 14:02

BlueSherbet · 11/06/2026 13:59

There are about 130,000 Somalis living in UK social housing.

Why?

Its 72% of the somali population in the UK, compared with ~16% of the population as a whole.

Is this a benefit to the UK?

I thought Nick Timothy’s figures had been discredited.

Greyblankie · 11/06/2026 14:01

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 13:59

Sigh. I know many through them, if you read my posts. I don't have data but neither do you.

Could you provide better data and a bigger sample to support your claim that young Londoners support Restore?

Edited

I never mentioned anything about London. Believe it or not … there is much more to the UK than bloody London.

ilovebrie8 · 11/06/2026 14:00

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 13:37

I would not at all be surprised if the accidental leak was entirely deliberate.

Those responsible should go to jail for a long, long time, to set an example to other rogues who would seek to scupper efforts to deport.

I also think they should go to jail , and financially pay for their stay there, and hopefully it would ruin them financially for life.

That’s what I thought too the accidental leak of names was deliberate not an “accident”

MushMonster · 11/06/2026 14:00

@ElizaMulvil I do not agree with much of what you wrote.
Regarding the duty to take assylum seekers. Yes, but only if we can and it very much looks like we are struggling. The costs of housing them is huge. They do not seem to go through proper mental health and integration programs. It is much better to help them on site (which I get is impossible in the case of Afghanistan). But our foreign aid has been cut to cover for assylum seekers expense. That leaves women and children behind, without been helped. I get it does not apply to all countries. But a better pressure on ending wars abroad is a better option, in my opinion.
The ratio to youth/ elderly is a real issue, but that needs a very controlled immigration process. There is no point of bringing people in that will send their wages abroad, for example. Or exceeding numbers we can cope with.
We do have an issue with youth employment. So we need to first address that too. And revise the problems with the junior doctors, for example. They are complaining that they have the access to further training and promotions due to recruiting of cheaper professionals from abroad.
Skilled and controlled migration are an asset. Of course. But the system has to ensure that compliments and helps the current population.

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 13:59

Greyblankie · 11/06/2026 13:57

So you know two young people? Great sample 😂

Sigh. I know many through them, if you read my posts. I don't have data but neither do you.

Could you provide better data and a bigger sample to support your claim that young Londoners support Restore?

BlueSherbet · 11/06/2026 13:59

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 10:42

Are there a million small boat men here?
Who exactly are these millions you want to evict?

There are about 130,000 Somalis living in UK social housing.

Why?

Its 72% of the somali population in the UK, compared with ~16% of the population as a whole.

Is this a benefit to the UK?

Greyblankie · 11/06/2026 13:57

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 13:48

I have a 21 yr old and a 24 year old. As many as you, perhaps?

So you know two young people? Great sample 😂

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 13:57

hairbearbunches · 11/06/2026 11:47

@Persephonia1966 For what it's worth, I think Freedom of Movement from the EU has caused all of this angst. It was a bullshit policy from start to finish and it was completely incompatible with a country that had a universal non contributory welfare system. We have shelled out billions in benefits to low skilled Eastern Europeans who we simply did not need to make our economy work.

What is worse, is that highly skilled people from across the globe have been treated far more harshly and have had to pay millions for visa renewals, healthcare etc. Whichever way you look at this, it's just wrong. The figures are astronomical, punitive and give the wrong message to exactly the sort of people we should be welcoming here.

Now, FOM has gone but 8.6million EU migrants applied for settled status after Brexit and the majority are from Eastern Europe. Blair allowing them access to our labour markets when the rest of Europe kept their doors closed for 7 years has been a disaster for this country. People didn't want it, resistance began almost straight away and off the back of it, we now have some very unsavoury political characters entering the field and the future looks very far from rosy. The country has changed beyond all recognition in the last 25 years, the pace and scale has been far too much for any country to cope with. The benefits bill is crippling us. No-one who comes here should be given access to anything in the way of benefits. If these people on the boats can find £xxx to buy their tickets, they can fund themselves when they get here. 39% of UK adults have less than £1000 in savings. We are giving a leg up to a lot of people who have the financial wherewithall to circumvent the system and leapfrog our own poor,. It has got to stop.

If the government don't get a grip on quality and quantity, as I said, we are looking at a Farage led government because people have absolutely had enough, and that includes migrants who have been made to jump through hoops and pay significant amounts to be here, when others have been waved through and handed benefits like sweeties.

Well said.

People seem to also be ignorant of the rules tha had been in place. If you turned up in any EU country, that country has to provide for you as it would its own citizens. Sounds great, but it was working like for like.

The UK has universal free healthcare for instance. It is a myth that healthcare is comprehensively free in all other EU countries. Some have less help for pregnant mothers, some make a charge for the ambulance or a doctor visit, others require a much higher prescription charge or you pay in full for the medicines. There was even a Polish language website advising people how to claim when they got here. We were absurdly paying out welfare benefits to their kids left at home.

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 13:56

Goblinteasmade · 11/06/2026 13:53

OK, so two young people are not pro-Restore.

Got it.

You do know they have friends and acquaintances, right?
I assume you are a psephologist and have superior polling data.
Got it.

Greyblankie · 11/06/2026 13:56

Sliverswan · 11/06/2026 13:48

I looked this up recently
So conservatives have no plans to bring it back
But they are trying to stop the labour government getting the trail hunting stopped..

Thing is trail hunting is abused, once the dogs get a scent they’ll go after the real thing and there is nothing they can do to stop them. So a poor fox gets ripped apart during a trail hunt and it’s a case of “oops, that was an accident”. They know exactly what they’re doing. I honestly think any human who enjoys the suffering of any animal genuinely has something wrong with them.

Goblinteasmade · 11/06/2026 13:53

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 13:48

I have a 21 yr old and a 24 year old. As many as you, perhaps?

OK, so two young people are not pro-Restore.

Got it.

caringcarer · 11/06/2026 13:51

ilovebrie8 · 11/06/2026 10:46

@Charlize43 that needs stopping I've seen that re the pension access despite paying little or next to nothing in tax. Yes it is our welfare system, the benefits need to be stopped and handing out ILR like smarties.

When I temped in an education/immigration type environment, I was quite surprised as the number of immigrants with Italian & Spanish passports who had African birthplaces and now had UK ILR - which gave them full access to all the state benefits. Some were only a few years away from retirement and would be eligible for pension credit despite having paid little to no tax?
Why is there a trajectory to head from Africa to Europe via Spain & Italy with the ultimate goal the UK? The welfare system?

I've worked since I was 16 and am well past the 35 years needed to get a full pension so why should someone who has never worked or barely paid in get pension credit?

Answers on a postcard, they should not.

It's because they speak English in African countries. That's why they want to come here.

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 13:49

Jones is a twat and if there was no Restore standing against Burnham then Reform would likely take the seat. As it is this ridicilous Labour Government just goes from bad to worse.

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 13:48

Goblinteasmade · 11/06/2026 13:46

How manny young people do you know?

I have a 21 yr old and a 24 year old. As many as you, perhaps?

Sliverswan · 11/06/2026 13:48

Greyblankie · 11/06/2026 13:43

Ah I actually agree with you on the fox hunting. Unfortunately for me all the right wing parties support it. It’s disgusting.

I looked this up recently
So conservatives have no plans to bring it back
But they are trying to stop the labour government getting the trail hunting stopped..

Goblinteasmade · 11/06/2026 13:46

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 13:38

I am in London too, and none of the young ppl I know are Restore.

How manny young people do you know?

Sliverswan · 11/06/2026 13:46

Sliverswan · 11/06/2026 13:41

I thought that exact thought at the time as well

Shit
No I've got confused in what I'm replying to
I was meaning that I thought the release of the names was deliberate,..but no to stop them being deported from here .
I'm confused..I'd not read the post properly before replying.

Greyblankie · 11/06/2026 13:43

Sliverswan · 11/06/2026 13:40

Omg
You could not be further from the truth
He's a nasty little man , because he wants to bring back fox hunting
That's what we rowed about .
I said I can't vote for anyone who wants to bring back fox hunting
But as I'm vegan,you are sort of right ..I did used to vote green for many years .
But this current green party leader ..I just can't ..
So I am politically homeless
Green don't speak for me any more
Used to a be a lefty ..I guess ..don't know what I am now

Ah I actually agree with you on the fox hunting. Unfortunately for me all the right wing parties support it. It’s disgusting.

Sliverswan · 11/06/2026 13:41

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 13:37

I would not at all be surprised if the accidental leak was entirely deliberate.

Those responsible should go to jail for a long, long time, to set an example to other rogues who would seek to scupper efforts to deport.

I also think they should go to jail , and financially pay for their stay there, and hopefully it would ruin them financially for life.

I thought that exact thought at the time as well

Persephonia1966 · 11/06/2026 13:41

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 13:37

I would not at all be surprised if the accidental leak was entirely deliberate.

Those responsible should go to jail for a long, long time, to set an example to other rogues who would seek to scupper efforts to deport.

I also think they should go to jail , and financially pay for their stay there, and hopefully it would ruin them financially for life.

This wasn't about people who could be deported. These were people who had applied for evacuation in many cases prior to the complete withdrawal from Kabul. In many cases they were still in Afghanistan.
I think it's conspiracy thinking to think someone deliberately leaked all the info so that when the people were eventually in the UK they would be hard to deport. That doesn't make sense.

Sliverswan · 11/06/2026 13:40

Greyblankie · 11/06/2026 13:35

You had a row with him, which suggests you tried to influence him not to vote Lowe. Typical leftie behaviour.

Omg
You could not be further from the truth
He's a nasty little man , because he wants to bring back fox hunting
That's what we rowed about .
I said I can't vote for anyone who wants to bring back fox hunting
But as I'm vegan,you are sort of right ..I did used to vote green for many years .
But this current green party leader ..I just can't ..
So I am politically homeless
Green don't speak for me any more
Used to a be a lefty ..I guess ..don't know what I am now

Persephonia1966 · 11/06/2026 13:38

DamonFoxPackingUpNorthernSoul · 11/06/2026 13:34

I accept your points and just to be clear I don't hate anybody😁

I know, I wasn't blaming you! It's basically that it's as much a matter of getting the message out (abroad and at home) and if posters in the UK believe untrue things about our asylum system what hope of convincing people in other countries

friedaklein · 11/06/2026 13:38

I am in London too, and none of the young ppl I know are Restore.

MellowPoster · 11/06/2026 13:37

Persephonia1966 · 11/06/2026 13:17

What happened there is they had a list of possible people to repatriate plus family members and accidentally made said list public. Meaning the Taliban now had a list of everyone believed to have helped the UK armed forces (whether they did or not) and their family and all their info. If those people weren't in danger before the leak, they were after. And arguably the UK had a moral responsibility to the people they put in harms way.
So the calculation was changed from "are these people at risk because they helped our forces" to "are these people at risk because we put them on a list of really good targets for revenge attacks and leaked it". And a lot more people belonged in the second category than the first. And the government didn't even bring in everyone they'd put at risk.

So indeed it was a fuck up. One that should never be repeated.

Edited

I would not at all be surprised if the accidental leak was entirely deliberate.

Those responsible should go to jail for a long, long time, to set an example to other rogues who would seek to scupper efforts to deport.

I also think they should go to jail , and financially pay for their stay there, and hopefully it would ruin them financially for life.