To think men should not be allowed to be gynaecologists

You are definitely NOT being unreasonable.

I phrased it wrong but I meant that rape victims would have access to women gynaes easier if those of us who weren’t bothered either way saw the male ones.

I'm not sure what your comment has to do with mine.

What about specific issues with
that field? Should a gynae have experienced whatever your issue is for themselves?

What about oncology - should we require people to have had specific forms of cancer before they can become an oncologist?

Plenty of people are great at their jobs without having to have experienced it for themselves

I can sympathise. I have a lovely male gynaecologist, but I still feel very vulnerable when he wants to have a look.

I recently had surgery with a different gynaecologist and he was so awful I will never let him near me again. Totally dismissive of my concerns, my views, my pain. He left me sobbing before I had my procedure with his attitude alone. Massively overinflated ego and threatening manor. I told him I wanted a hysterectomy and he scoffed that I wont get one- and he knows because he's on the panel.

That’s not how percentages work. If 75% of the entire NHS are female that includes all areas. Some areas of the NHS are heavily female. Med secs/admin, midwives, paeds nursing - if you think that gynaecologists should be more female led to represent the percentage, does that mean we should get rid of some of our female midwives so we can make sure 25% of them are men?

So all the women who aren’t bothered can be seen by a man and those who need to see a woman have less of a wait

So should women not be allowed to work in men's health?
Should it be mandatory that teachers have children?

They don't charge a fortune compared with similarly qualified and experienced people.

They often work in the evenings, and always on top of their NHS hours, which I'm sure put off a lot of women.

One of my concerns with restricting access to any medical specialism to men is that you may get fewer pioneering surgeons who dedicate their lives to it and invent new better ways to do things. That’s not because women can’t be good surgeons- but you are narrowing a pool of talent where a tiny number of people have the ability and drive to advance the field. And possibly you still get a drop off in female surgeons when they have children.

I mentioned upthread that there are 3 surgeons in the country who do the type of breast reconstruction I’m having, all male. If they had been prevented from going into that specialism there might well be none or the techniques used would be less advanced. I imagine the same applies to specialised or particularly difficult areas of gynaecology.

I tend to think preference for female medical staff is the preserve of those who haven’t had really serious medical issues. Once you do, there are so many people who might examine you or be observing or ask you about periods, sex etc that it would just be totally infeasible to require all staff be female. Mammographers have to be female, for example, but I was probably seen by 15+ medical staff just while being diagnosed with cancer, many of whom were male. So if you just have a scan and are fine you might just see a woman but more than that it would be logistically very difficult to have female only care in most hospitals.

All births are special, don’t get me wrong - I meant more compared to other areas of medicine. So, for example, if you are a paediatric A&E doctor for example, you will statistically spend a lot of your time seeing “worried well”, who would perhaps have been better off at the gp or even just at home watching cbeebies with some Calpol. If you are an obstetrician then you only see more acute cases.

I want the best gynaecologist and could care less if they're male or female.
Phasing out male gynaecologists is an absolutely absurd suggestion.

How ridiculous.

You're being unreasonable. I've had great experience with male gynaes... However I did have one tell me I had a "great looking vagina" when I was young, so I did think that was pretty creepy. But in terms of medical care the majority have been great for me tbh

18 month wait here for a gynae - we need more not fewer!

And if I hadn't had good experiences with male gynaes, Adam Kay's misogynistic book would put me right off.

Goodness sake. This, again. Near-daily at this point.

Sure, let's get rid of a huge percentage of gynaecologists and only accept women into gynae training. I'm sure that will help women's health. I'm sure that won't negatively impact us in any way.

Banning is ridiculous but there should be a choice, I am a suvivor of sexual abuse and sexual violence and was groped by a male doctor when I was 15 so would always opt for a woman if possible. Had one male gynaecologist, he was patronising, explained nothing even to the extent of not answering my questions. Probably not due to his being male but it was a horrible experience.

I have to have regular colposcopies due to previous cervical cancer. I am always pleased when I get the male consultant as he is much more reassuring, sympathetic and it doesn't hurt. The female ones have been more rough pokey

But then I also have limited embarrassment on various lady things so maybe i just don't care that much?

BUT I think you should have the right to chose. They always ask if i am OK with a male consultant

I don't think they should be banned, but they must understand that some women may feel intimidated about talking about intimate issues with them and may prefer a woman.

Male doctors prefer not to go into OBS and gynae as they don't feel clinically strong enough - they are often excluded from seeing patients during their student days (apart from the team of gynae volunteers at some med schools) and the only time the get to deliver babies is during the elective where governments of some countries have stopped female education.
What about a female doctor who mainly sees prostate patients?
Female surgeons can be quite cold and unpleasant (and up till recently male consultants were arrogant and rude).
Everyone has the right to ask for a chaperone (both patient and doctor/nurse etc)

Interestingly, it seems that men are in fact slowly being pushed out of OBGYN – even more interestingly, female patients' reluctance to allow male medical students to treat them/deliver their baby is framed as a 'bias' that needs to be educated out of them, because men are apparently entitled to touch women's vaginas

You aren't being unreasonable. It's weird. When I was a teenager I was reffered to a male gynecologist and I didn't go because it made me feel very uncomfortable. Same reason I see a female GP when I have female issues. Otherwise I am fine with a male GP.

Its reasonable for a woman to prefer a female gynaecologist, but some dont care either way.

But as our society has abandoned gender roles and the "appropriateness" they sometimes bring, you could never reasonably exclude men from this career.

I have a male gynae. He´s great. My pregnancy consultant was a man also. Also great. The only time i had a woman I found her cold, distant and clumsy.

YANBU I'd prefer a female to be honest. I think maybe we should be given a choice?. I had a male doctor at a menopause clinic recently who told me to buy a new bed after I told him of my joint pains. I did wonder why on earth he chose to work in that field- cold and dismissive. Females only for me please. Obviously women can be dismissive too but I feel much more comfortable talking about certain problems with them.