To think men should not be allowed to be gynaecologists

Those would be the only exceptions for me.

You’re being ridiculous. would you care about women being urologists?

Oh. That's a big disappointment. I enjoyed his first book.

yes it’s the women’s fault they suffer medical discrimination - they just can’t explain themselves.

I'd love to give this written on an office mug to my gynaecologist

The best one I have ever seen is a man.

YABVU.

Oh, I would haaaaate to have a man doing my vaginal ultrasound.

But I would suck it up, because I wouldn't want to go to the hassle of changing the appt and coming back.

So you think males should be able to work at a women's refuge? Or with female victims of rape?

bored of looking at vag after vag after vag

😄

My gynecology oncologist was brilliant. I really quizzed him on his motives and he was also great at explaining what he was doing and having the camera on during my colposcopies. I had a different one a few times and request him when possible.

I think limiting any career to a single sex is wrong to be honest.

I think gynaecologists can be men.

But the underlying misogyny in Kay’s memoirs was unedifying.

All my children were delivered by male obstetricians, who made excellent decisions in my care, much better than the women and midwives. I've been lucky they all were so caring and knowledgeable, as I'd literally not be here if they hadn't made the right call.

I think giving women the option of being able to be treated by a female (but potentially the waits associated with that) is good, but wouldn’t want to ban men. I’ve had both amazing and bad experiences.
my current gyno is a guy, and I’d previously paid for private appts with only women due to some bad experiences,I went with him very reluctantly as a last ditch attempt as no one else was listening to me, but he was the first one that took my issues seriously and was like you shouldn’t have to live like that.

I really hope that this is a joke.

Has it never crossed your mind that if you had a woman treating you, then maybe you wouldnt have been forced to suffer this long?

I try my best to only see female doctors for any woman's stuff. In fact, female doctors in general I prefer, but I don't mind male doctors for non-reproductive stuff. I'm just more comfortable with female doctors.

Not sure about phasing them out of gynae stuff. I don't think there are enough doctors to do that and besides, many women are OK with male gynaes.

I understand you having questions about motivations. But the truth is that most male gynaes probably don't have ulterior motives and in fact get bored of looking at vag after vag after vag.

There might be some with ulterior motives though.

Dude, some women have penises.

I can't agree.

I've had period issues since I was 11, with heavy flooding, and huge fibroids for 30 years. I suffer terribly. Most, if not all of my consultants have been men, and it doesn't make a blind bit of difference to me.

Blanket statements like this are so naive. There will always be some predatory men who jump through hoops in order to be in an environment where they can satisfy their urges.

Why would a predatory, intelligent man not enter a highly paid career where he can also potentially sexually violate women in a way that isn't easily picked up on/called out, if he tiptoes along the border of 'appropriateness'? It makes perfect sense. They get both money, and the opportunity to covertly prey on women.

Obviously that will (hopefully) only be a very small minority of men in the industry, but it does happen.

I think that’s an unnecessary, unpleasant comment. If you think those who disagree with you are ‘handmaids’ (though you’re using the term incorrectly as well) then it seems that you don’t need an AIBU thread. AIBU is meant for when you feel like you’re probably or possibly right but aren’t totally sure and are at least slightly open to the views of others.

Totally fine to request a female doctor if you feel more comfortable that way, but not ok to ban men from the profession in my opinion. Reading about some people’s negative experiences, however, perhaps more needs to be done around cultural change and regulation.

In Atwood’s novel, the handmaids have no choice in their situations, some rebel, and many wish to, so it’s not a suitable analogy.

Patsy - I hate gynaecologists. A man who can look you in the vagina but never in the eye.

Yeah, that one. Lovely guy…

https://www.lyricsfreak.com/a/adam+kay+suman+biswas/menstrual+rag_20596243.html

I won’t post the link to his song about children with down syndrome.

This is like when those TSA body scanners came in and people were up in arms about being perved on.

If a male (or female) OBGYN was banking the visual of inserting a speculum in me for their wank fodder later that day, I would file that under “not my problem”. If they get off on that, or me described my discharge, best of luck to them. I couldn’t really bring myself to waste energy caring about someone doing something I’d have no knowledge of.

Given there has to be a chaperone present for any physical examination, the risk of you getting assaulted whilst sedated are pretty low

I dont care tbh aslong as they can treat me appropriately and professionally and potentially save my life with serious gynaecological conditions.

Oh please don't be ridiculous. I've been waiting 18 months for a uterine polyp removal as it is. If I bleed for much longer I'm going to evaporate.
We need every gynaecologist we can get - and more!