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To think men should not be allowed to be gynaecologists

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CaragianettE · 10/06/2026 22:45

Just that, really. Saw one last week. He was trying to be helpful, but I really really really don’t want to discuss ‘do you get clots’ ‘do you experience flooding’ ‘do you find intercourse painful’ with a strange man. Yes it would be awkward with a strange woman too, but at least I know she likely has some lived experience of what we are talking about. TBH I also question men’s motives for choosing this job, not just the licence to look at strange women’s vaginas, but I think there’s something deep in the male psyche that just loves laying down the law to women about their reproductive systems. It’s a job for a woman, and while I know men were allowed to train for it in the past, I think they should now be phased out.

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UtopiaPlanitia · 11/06/2026 03:43

Crushed23 · 11/06/2026 01:35

“a push to recruit”? Do you think there’s a shortage of female trainees in OBGYN? Are you joking?

Considering that I regularly have to wait months longer on the NHS waiting list to see a female Gynae, yes I do think there's a shortage.

Edited to add: I've been told frequently by hospital booking staff that I could have an appointment much sooner if I would agree to see a male doctor.

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 03:41

BooneyBeautiful · 11/06/2026 03:08

I used to do private secretarial work for a well-respected child and adolescent psychiatrist, and one day I asked her why she thought some men wanted to be gynaecologists. Her response was that women had the ultimate control because they were able to give birth to the next generation, and this profession was the closest thing for men who were that way inclined. Basically, it seems to be about control. Food for thought.

That is quite an odd take from an intelligent person

Paparomeoumbrellaecho · 11/06/2026 03:40

Just when I thought questions on MN couldn't get any more ridiculous. Utter madness...

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 03:39

That’s your hang up though. Your problem if you don’t feel comfortable.

Ask for a female one if you prefer.

They are doctors doing a job

TheseWordsAreMine · 11/06/2026 03:25

Reading through this, i'm not sure id want anyone to look and tell me the truth.

BooneyBeautiful · 11/06/2026 03:21

Daisy95 · 10/06/2026 22:50

Absolutely ridiculous, I work in gynae surgery and our best consultants are male, actually the female ones can be much more dismissive.

you’d be horrified to know we only have male breast surgeons too!!

Not true. Dr Sascha Dua is an eminent female Consultant Breast Surgeon who was actually on tv a couple of months ago (I want to say Channel 5) and it followed her life both at work and at home. She diagnosed my triple negative breast cancer back in December 2019. She is pretty impressive! I saw her privately, but then went on to have NHS treatment at my local hospital. I didn't want to go down the Plan A route of chemotherapy/lumpectomy/radiotherapy so opted for a mastectomy which meant I was cancer-free in six weeks, as opposed to at least seven months (much of which would have been during lockdown). My surgery was done by a Consultant General Surgeon and he was amazing! I definitely had 5 star treatment!

IDontHateRainbows · 11/06/2026 03:20

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Calling people who don't agree with your preposterous suggestion handmaidens... grow up.

Those who cannot convince others of their argument often resort to insults. It's a sign.

BooneyBeautiful · 11/06/2026 03:10

Dancingfairydreams · 10/06/2026 22:49

Ridiculous!

Also, most women doctors ive seen for gynae related things have been very dismissive & basically told me to get on with it....so no greater sympathy or understanding from women!

My DM always used to say she preferred seeing a male doctor.

BooneyBeautiful · 11/06/2026 03:08

I used to do private secretarial work for a well-respected child and adolescent psychiatrist, and one day I asked her why she thought some men wanted to be gynaecologists. Her response was that women had the ultimate control because they were able to give birth to the next generation, and this profession was the closest thing for men who were that way inclined. Basically, it seems to be about control. Food for thought.

Topseyt123 · 11/06/2026 03:03

What an utterly ridiculous and silly OP.

I've been seen and even operated on by both male and female gynaecologists and both were absolutely fine.

You haven't received the 100% validation you were expecting so now you seem to have flounced.

19lottie82 · 11/06/2026 03:01

So you think men study for 7 years, just so they can look at fannys all day? 😂

YankSplaining · 11/06/2026 03:00

I’ve only ever had female OB/GYNs, but the fertility specialist who helped my parents conceive me was male and my mom thought he was fantastic. My parents tried unsuccessfully for a few years to have a second baby, and I remember going to appointments with my mom and her doctor letting me spin around on the stool in the exam room. Fun times. 🙂 He’s still practicing over 40 years later and has won several awards.

YABU.

Jumpingthruhoops · 11/06/2026 02:54

CaragianettE · 10/06/2026 22:45

Just that, really. Saw one last week. He was trying to be helpful, but I really really really don’t want to discuss ‘do you get clots’ ‘do you experience flooding’ ‘do you find intercourse painful’ with a strange man. Yes it would be awkward with a strange woman too, but at least I know she likely has some lived experience of what we are talking about. TBH I also question men’s motives for choosing this job, not just the licence to look at strange women’s vaginas, but I think there’s something deep in the male psyche that just loves laying down the law to women about their reproductive systems. It’s a job for a woman, and while I know men were allowed to train for it in the past, I think they should now be phased out.

My easiest smear test was done by a male gynae. The female nurses I'd seen up to that point dismissed any concerns I had and didnt seem to know how to do the procedure properly at all. Having then been referred to the hospital for the smear, this guy immediately made me feel at ease and took the swab in about 30 seconds. Didn't feel a thing, in fact, I was very surprised when he said he'd done it. Given the choice, I'd have a male gynae every time.

SquirrelGG · 11/06/2026 02:51

BestieNo1 · 10/06/2026 23:27

I agree with you. For this you CANNOT ARGUE that men have more empathy and lived experience than female gynaes which is highly relevant to feeling comfortable in a consultation and why they often have nurses as chaperones! You are perfectly normal in sensing this. I always ask for a female doctor and feel great knowing I can offset the male bias in my choices xxx

I'm a 67 year old female who has never had a gynae issue in my entire life, so how on earth would I have any more idea of what a woman was going through than a man would? Other than having the same "bits" I would have nothing in common with a patient.

I really can't be bothered with people who can't deal with a man doing a job, for which they are highly trained, simply because he is a man.

OtterlyAstounding · 11/06/2026 02:49

Balloonhearts · 11/06/2026 00:37

Good god, grow up. If you're uncomfortable, ask to see a woman. Not everything that makes you a bit uncomfortable should be banned. There's no such thing as womens jobs and men's jobs. At least not since the 1950s.

Mammographers who do the public screenings are all women.

offtodreamland · 11/06/2026 02:26

Of course men shouldn't be banned from practicing certain types of medicine any more than women should be. Choose someone you're comfortable with and let others do the same.

Crushed23 · 11/06/2026 01:35

UtopiaPlanitia · 11/06/2026 01:16

Personally, I've had unpleasant, sexist, and painful experiences with male gynaes over the years and only one negative experience with the many female gynaes I've seen. I would much prefer a push to recruit many more female doctors into gynaecology services to ensure that female patients have a genuine choice when seeing a doctor.

“a push to recruit”? Do you think there’s a shortage of female trainees in OBGYN? Are you joking?

Crushed23 · 11/06/2026 01:33

I mean there aren’t that many around anymore, are there? Isn’t it one of the most female dominated specialisms? Where I live, OBGYNs are 85% female, I believe.

So just rebook with a woman. 🤷‍♀️

steff13 · 11/06/2026 01:30

Daisy95 · 10/06/2026 22:50

Absolutely ridiculous, I work in gynae surgery and our best consultants are male, actually the female ones can be much more dismissive.

you’d be horrified to know we only have male breast surgeons too!!

This has been my experience with male vs. female gynecologists. When my old doctor retired, I chose a new male doctor.

Also, I believe "banning" someone from doing a job based on their sex is what you would call a slippery slope...

MoreEspressoLessDepresso · 11/06/2026 01:25

Last year I had to have some gynae investigations/treatment and I had a wonderful male gynaecologist. He was very caring, professional and took time to explain everything really clearly. Made sure I was giving informed consent at every step - which is more than I can say for the female obstetrician I had when I was pregnant who gave me a sweep without my consent! So I think you can have good and bad individuals in any profession, doesn't mean we should ban them because of their sex.

Flomingho · 11/06/2026 01:25

Dancingfairydreams · 10/06/2026 22:49

Ridiculous!

Also, most women doctors ive seen for gynae related things have been very dismissive & basically told me to get on with it....so no greater sympathy or understanding from women!

I agree with this. I actually found the male ones listened more when I had explaining symptoms. The female one I saw was rude bordering on aggressive.

UtopiaPlanitia · 11/06/2026 01:16

CaragianettE · 10/06/2026 22:45

Just that, really. Saw one last week. He was trying to be helpful, but I really really really don’t want to discuss ‘do you get clots’ ‘do you experience flooding’ ‘do you find intercourse painful’ with a strange man. Yes it would be awkward with a strange woman too, but at least I know she likely has some lived experience of what we are talking about. TBH I also question men’s motives for choosing this job, not just the licence to look at strange women’s vaginas, but I think there’s something deep in the male psyche that just loves laying down the law to women about their reproductive systems. It’s a job for a woman, and while I know men were allowed to train for it in the past, I think they should now be phased out.

Personally, I've had unpleasant, sexist, and painful experiences with male gynaes over the years and only one negative experience with the many female gynaes I've seen. I would much prefer a push to recruit many more female doctors into gynaecology services to ensure that female patients have a genuine choice when seeing a doctor.

Apopos · 11/06/2026 01:08

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 11/06/2026 01:07

I will add that the male OB who assisted with DS2's birth was awful compared to the female OB who attended DS1 and all the female midwives who treated me before during and after both:

-Laughed in my face at my final antenatal appointment (~39 weeks) when I told him I thought labour was imminent and described the ways my body felt different. I went into labour later that day.
-Refused to stop stitching up my perineum to top up the anaesthesia when I told him it had worn off and he was hurting me. 'Just one more stitch!' 'OK just one more!' 'One more!'. My feet were up in stirrups with a light shone at my vagina, I was shaking uncontrollably from the shock and pain.

Ugh, DS2 is 20 and I'm getting angry all over again just thinking about it.

Assault, basically. I’m sorry that happened.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 11/06/2026 01:07

I will add that the male OB who assisted with DS2's birth was awful compared to the female OB who attended DS1 and all the female midwives who treated me before during and after both:

-Laughed in my face at my final antenatal appointment (~39 weeks) when I told him I thought labour was imminent and described the ways my body felt different. I went into labour later that day.
-Refused to stop stitching up my perineum to top up the anaesthesia when I told him it had worn off and he was hurting me. 'Just one more stitch!' 'OK just one more!' 'One more!'. My feet were up in stirrups with a light shone at my vagina, I was shaking uncontrollably from the shock and pain.

Ugh, DS2 is 20 and I'm getting angry all over again just thinking about it.

Apopos · 11/06/2026 01:07

Tourmalines · 11/06/2026 00:54

May the lord open what ?

The big Tesco on sundays after 4pm. It’s really the right thing to do in 2026.