To want to move back to england with my 5 children

What does that have to do with it? Eligibility for government money isn’t dependent on whether someone had made unfortunate choices.

Exactly she's still having babies so can't be older than 40
Her oldest is 15.
At most she was 25 with a baby and no family support

I suspect she was probably a lot younger.
And is still in her early 30s.

This girl has been in care. She was raised as a ward of the state. Many other people who get into this situation would have family help- a parent /s who might put you up and help you get back on your feet.

I'm not saying she should return as it would be seen as kidnapping but can people on this thread have some compassion for the OP??

I doubt you will be legally allowed to take children to the UK without father's permission. Will he give it?

Could you convince him to allow you and the kids to stay with his family in the UK for a while while the baby is born? Once you are all here long enough hopefully he cant force the kids to be returned.

Can you find a reason to come back to UK around 30 weeks and then stay? The problem is The Hague convention which means you cannot take the children from the country where they are ordinarily resident if their father objects. Their nationality is irrelevant.

What would he do if you refused to return to Poland? Would he allow you to travel without him but with all the DC?

If he hadn't persuaded her to move countries the UK would be supporting her any way.

Charity begins at home, as a nation we should support UK people before we support asylum seekers or anyone else.

She must have been very young when she met him, absolute most 25. And a kid out the UK care system.

I'll take a guess she was actually a teen mum, groomed by him, the UK absolutely should support her.

Presumably she would expect the council to magic up a place big enough for her huge family as well as educating them, providing even more healthcare (on top of paying for her to have every kid but one here) and giving her substantial benefits for them all.

The circumstances are irrelevant. You are saying that we should support someone with 6 kids and little or no prospect of getting work just because their marriage is shit?

Soeaking as a landlord no private landlord would rent to her. Firstly, she’ll need 5 weeks deposit plus a month up front - so at least a few thousand pounds. Also since the RRA landlords are being meticulous about credit checks - I can’t imagine her passing. Would her in laws be her guarantor? I doubt it. No ll wants overcrowding in their properties and 6 people in a 3 bedroom house would be seen as that. A 4 + bed property will be very expensive.

Therefore, stop advising her to come to the UK as it’ll be nigh on impossible to rent a property unless she’s absolutely loaded.

I didn't say she would fail but even universal credit stops after 30 day abroad.

So what are the tests? And what makes you think she'd fail.

The UK seems to give money to everyone who rocks up. I just don't think they should refuse to help a UK citizen who's been in an abusive relationship.

No not if you have been out of the country over a certain amount of time. You would need to pass tests or wait a period of time. I can't remember what it is called.

You think benefits are a blood right or something? 😅

I'd have thought as a UK citizen she would be entitled.
Have you actually checked it out that she wouldn't be?

But her biggest issue is going to be getting courts permission to take the kids out the country.
It could be 2 years before permission is granted. By that time the 15 yo will be 17 and potentially seen as an adult.

Hope you’re ok op x

Then it’s better to stay in Poland. In the UK, childcare is hella expensive, school places are hit and miss and the NHS is on its knees.

This..

You need to look into divorcing and staying in Poland.

You can't go back to England. Your children reside in Poland and you would need your H's consent to bring them all.

Also, England is unbelievably eye watering expensive. We live abroad, in Southern Europe, and we go to the UK a lot. Honestly, the prices and cost of living is absolutely insane. I can't see how you could make it work financially with 6 kids, including a newborn.

Ultimately, while you're feeling vulnerable now, you made some big decisions that you cannot take back. You chose to make a life in Poland. It's a pretty wonderful country, in my view. Stable, beautiful weather, good economy, down to earth people. You are implying they will grow up homophobic because of being there which is offensive. Your children's father and half their family is there. It would be cruel to take them all away.

You need to take some responsibility for your situation, stop day dreaming about a move that will not happen for another 18 years at least, and make a plan to separate from your husband. That will probably take at least a year since you are about to give birth but you chose to have another baby, that's done.

I'd also prioritize working closer with school in relation to your boys behaviour, and doing this right now. It's unlikely to get better on its own if you move countries. In fact, the move can make things much harder for them, especially since there is no other planning.

Lack of language is no excuse. Sorry.

One parent who is a British citizen and was born here - it doesn’t pass down indefinitely. Her child who wasn’t born in the UK wouldn’t pass it down. Citizenship does end after a generation in most situations (my children are triple citizens by descent but if they have children they’ll just inherit British citizenship)

OP I’m sorry for your situation, but you must see by now that you can’t just come to the UK. You have no right to bring your children here and no way to support them. Unfortunately, choosing to have 6 children means you have limited options and your best bet is to figure out what you can do for yourself where you live. (And stop coming here to give birth, that can’t go on forever.)

So a lot of things in Poland are the same as my home country, I might be a bit naive thinking everything is the same but I imagine kids also get government funded nursery with only a tiny monthly fee. so even if someone has eg three nursery aged children, they're still better off working. You also have a good monthly payment for each child which is not means tested, it's not classified as a benefit, everyone gets it. Once you have three children that amount of money is pretty good for covering lots of stuff you need for kids, I imagine with 6 it will be even better.
Everyone is also entitled to one degree that is funded by government.
I understand she feels lonely though as I've been asking by husband to move but he says he would feel too lonely and isolated due to not speaking the language. There are more and more Brits moving there so I'm saying he wouldn't be an only one but I get it from his point of view. It's such a shame though as I would want my kids to have all those opportunities when they're adults but can understand my husbands feelings too. So I get that OP feels super lonely and learning the language fluently is the key in my opinion, but I also appreciate that some languages such as Polish are so hard and I'm not sure how non-natives manage at all.
My advice to OP would be embrace Poland and all it has to offer but as much as possible, try improving your Polish so you can have local friends, get involved with other mums and feel fully settled in.

I wouldn't be so sure.
Times money, and if you aren't being paid why would you bother?
Keeping in mind the sue culture of the USA, why would medical professionals risk getting involved if they aren't being paid?

I know nurses here in the UK who have been advised if they find themselves at the scene of an accident not to disclose they are a nurse, as people have been sued for getting it wrong while providing emergency care at accidents.

I do understand you are fed up op but you do need to take responsibility yourself, you have had a very large family and moved to Poland - at this point you loose residency rights like healthcare and benefits in the U.K.

But all is not lost, you need to leave your husband in Poland and seek assistance from the polish benefits system in the first instance, then once you are able to work (when baby is old enough for nursery) get permission to take your dc to the U.K. and find a job to support all of you because you won’t be entitled to U.K. benefits for some time

It’s not right or fair. It makes it easy for people like the OP to just use the service to which they aren’t entitled.

Eligibility should be checked immediately after the birth and anyone not eligible for nhs care should be made to pay before they take their baby home.