To want to move back to england with my 5 children

Op you need to get them all uk passports.
if you separate in Poland what financial assstance would you get if any as a single mum who can’t work due to maternity leave? Do you co - own your home? Would he pay child maintenance? You’re not married so that may impact your rights. You really need to speak to a polish lawyer.

if you separate in Poland and he is just an every other weekend dad then you’d have a strong argument to move to the uk.

think about how happy your children would be in the uk, do you think happier?
do you have anyone you could stay with? I’m not sure what happens if you get them all on a plane and present as homeless to the council.

You say that you have nobody in the Uk so where do you stay when you come over to have your children ?

You cannot just arrive back in the UK and claim benefits, including child benefit. You’ll need to pass habitual residence test and prove you are a permanent resident. That takes time. It is irrelevant that your children are UK citizens, you cannot just remove them from their country of residence without their father’s permission. Likewise use of the NHS to give birth without being a citizen won’t be possible, or shouldn’t be. Midwives etc cannot help you kidnap your children, ultimately that is what you’ll be doing. I know women who have had the police turn up and remove their children and return them to the country they were removed from. Some advice on this thread is simply not true and dangerous.

It sounds like you're unmarried and not in employment? Do you have any money?
The best option is likely break up and stay living in Poland, but this might not be possible if you can't get somewhere to live.

I know two women living in a country they don't want to be in, due to having a kid with a man then breaking up.

I asked AI about this OP and this is what it said:

Yes, you can move back to the UK from Poland with your children, but your legal right to do so depends entirely on whether both parents consent to the relocation and what visas your family requires.

Under international law (such as the 1980 Hague Convention), you cannot legally remove a child from their country of "habitual residence" (in this case, Poland) permanently without the written consent of everyone who holds parental responsibility.

If both parents agree: The move can proceed smoothly. It is highly recommended to get a written, signed agreement or a formal parenting plan.

If the other parent disagrees: You will need to apply to the Polish family court for permission to relocate the children before you travel. Moving the children without the other parent's consent or a court order can be treated as child abduction.

One more thing - a new law came in this year which means that anyone who is a UK citizen MUST enter the UK on a UK passport. You can no longer travel here on a foreign passport if you are a UK citizen, so if your DC are UK citizens you must get them all passports before you come here. If you're unsure about who has what and whether they're still valid - check now and get it sorted out.

I'm so sorry OP. It sounds like your best option is to leave him and stay in Poland. Or persuade him to move to England, but it sounds like he won't be persuaded.

What is the safety net like in Poland for a single mother with 6 kids? Is there housing? Benefits?

As your kids get older you will have more time to make friends and get out.

It will be difficult to leave Poland with the children without his consent. Even if he consents you will have to find a way that he can have contact with his children.

If you are coming to the UK to give birth you can tell the Dr/ midwife at the hospital that you do not have control of your contraception (it will also flag you as a risk for domestic violence or under coercive control) and can ask or in some cases will be offered for a contraceptive coil to be placed after delivery and the DP will never be told, as it doesn't require a daily pill or regular appointments they can be placed and left for upto 10 years without the DP even knowing it exists.

What are you going to do when you get here regarding housing, providing for your children and work? Housing is in very short supply and is expensive. We have high cost of living and a dead jobs market. Nursery costs are high and even with the funded hours it is still expensive. You may be better finding a women's aid style charity in Poland and staying there. Especially if you have no connections here but some loose ones there.

If the op uses dishonest means to move the children to the uk and keep them here the father can apply for them to be returned and because of the Hague convention they most likely will be returned to Poland. Add on to that Poland may then also refuse the op a visa to even visit them. For her own sake the op must deal with this in Poland

You should make plans to leave your husband but stay in Poland. It would be unfair to take his children away from him to another country. Unfortunately with 6 children life is going to be v difficult on your own until they are older. I’m assuming he has a very good job to support you all. Will he pay child support?

Why are so many people suggesting the OP simply returns to England!!!!

where is she going to live?
how is she going to support SIX children including a teenage boy who will be extremely angry at his situation. It’s a recipe for disaster!!

That is what I meant!

How many people are going to suggest she commit a criminal offence that could see her jailed and lose all access to her children?

Why? Why are people doing this?

Where will she live and how will she support so many children in the UK without a job?

I think OP needs to break down her situation into its constituent parts leaving her DH and coming back to Britain. Basically she needs to sort out the first bit before even thinking about the second.

You need legal advice about your position separating, possibly divorcing, what happens if he puts up a fight, what benefits if any ypu are entitled to and your rights regards taking the DCs out of Poland.

Just coming back to Britain with no contact or support is not going to be the magic wand you are hoping for I'm afraid.

The consent wouldn't to be to stay indefinitely though!

Plus where would Op live & how would she support them all?

She also has no friends or family there.

Except she can’t stay. Her husband can force the return through the courts and she will lose custody, also a possible conviction for kidnapping. It’s not as easy as just returning. They are polish residents and cannot be removed without their fathers permission

the advice to just return with the kids Is. dangerous. You can potentially get the OP in a lot of trouble and lose her kids. The Hague convention is there for a reason and mothers cannot just take the kids away from their habitual home. It’s not only to stop dads taking kids abroad.

Also would you need the NHS for your birth?

This. No need to investigate passports and citizenship, your chilren are habitually resident in Poland and if you just put them on the plane and 'come home' to a country where most of them haven't even lived, that's Hague convention abduction.
You need to get him to agree to move all together. After a while when you are all settled in the UK, you can then leave him, and he will be the one who can't take kids back to Poland without your consent.

She can't do that

What will you do for money? Cost of living isn’t great and I imagine you won’t be able to work.

Six children is a lot - housing, feeding, clothing, finding school places, doctors, dentists when many are stretched

Sounds like more stress. Could you move away but stay in Poland, esp if the children are Polish citizens

And the criminal conviction and loss of the children that this might lead to?

It sounds like your children are ordinarily resident in Poland. You can't just remove them from the country against their father's wishes. It would be considered kidnapping. And he could legally have them brought back.

You really need to leave him. Is there any support in Poland as a single parent as I’m not sure that you can just take the children without a court order.
Is living separately an option until you sort out custody arrangements.
I am not sure how the welfare works in Poland.