To want to move back to england with my 5 children

You’re right @Pickledonion1999 . Just had a quick look. NHS treatment is based on residency so OP must be making false statements to be able to give birth in an NHS hospital free. Costs up to £14k a time according to maternity action and a lot more for a c-section. Any bills unpaid over £500 get reported to the Home Office. The NHS shouldn’t be there for lifestyle choices (get an interpreter in Poland) as over £80,000 worth of treatment all in at the expense of English taxpayers is taking the P a bit.

Yes. The Embassy could be a starting point and the Haigue organisation people have mentioend.
They could at least put you in the way of finding some proper legal advice. There are a lot of people on this thread saying you won't be able to leave with the children etc... but you want REAL legal advice from someone who has information about your particular circumstances to find out if this is acurate or not.
Don't just accept that there is no way out of this. Do your research

Don't listen to people saying you could get charged with kidnapping. Its very unhelpful for people to write this as an assumption. Check the real facts by contacting real life organisations.

I dont like how things are in my house anymore.

So separate and co-parent in Poland. You don't get to take his 6 kids to another country just because after many years together getting along okay apparently, you've suddenly decided you don't like your DP's attitude. It's good that you've 'woken up' to the situation and won't go on to have even more kids with a sexist man, but that doesn't give you the right to abscond with all the kids and move back 'home' to a country that isn't your kids' home and isn't even yours as much as Poland is now. I'm not sure I buy this innocent "I wasn't paying attention" take about coming back to give birth via the NHS in this very planned way then going back to Poland - to not know that was dodgy is wilfully naive at the very least.

People are jumping to your rescue on here because the assumption is abuse, but from what you've said, you've been all in until recently. He sounds like a dick, but so do plenty of men in England and plenty of women are okay with it. As I say, it's good that something has shifted to make you raise your standards, but that doesn't mean he's an abuser or that you get to move his kids overseas.

Practically speaking, get proper legal advice and look into how things would work if you stay in Poland and raise the kids there separated. If he's amenable and his family are on side, there may be a way to move everyone back here, but that won't be from a righteous moonlight flit like some of the posters seem to imagine. The DP has said pretty unpleasant things, shaved his child's hair and clashed with his teen son. That's nothing that warrants abducting six children. And in fact nothing does - you have to do things properly by your DC and the law.

Coercive control is the impression I got. Especially the fact that she's very isolated and he isn't keen on her working. It doesn't sound healthy and the OP's background as being care-experienced is also a vulnerability.

But in any event, all the advice telling her to just go is wrong, as she will need leave to remove the children from the country.

You are not the first person to be in a situation like this and won’t be the last. You need proper legal advice. I had a quick search and found Rights of Women (rightsofwomen.org.uk) who seem to offer free legal advice to women and would be a good first call. Reunite International (reunite.org, 0116 255 6234) say they specialise in cross-border family situations specifically.

You grew up without a safety net and built a whole life, learned a language and raised five children largely on your own strength. You are not mad for wanting something better.

Exactly and I'm not even sure it is allowed? When I returned to the Uk 25 years ago ( I am a British citizen ) after just a couple of years abroad and was pregnant within six months of returning to live in the Uk, I was questioned and had to fill out forms to show I was intending to stay etc and not just there to give birth. Sorry but I'm not quite sure I believe everything I'm reading here.

They're probably dual citizens because they'd be entitled to British citizenship through their mum as well. For abduction, the relevant issue is domicile and they are domiciled in Poland, regardless of citizenship. Yes, agree they would be ordered to be returned.

I think he also goes with them?

He's obviously fairly amenable if hes cool with shipping the whole family over to an Airbnb in the UK for you to have your births "just" because you would prefer to have English-speaking staff so im guessing it shouldn't be too hard to engineer this

You need to look into The Hague Convention - youwill need his permission to take the children abroad/ away from their ‘habitual place of residence’.

That’s really poor.

I don't have any advice I'm afraid but I just wanted to say I think you are explaining yourself just fine OP. I completely understand where you are coming from and why his behaviour feels unnerving.

Definitely seek advice from some kind of institution in Poland and try and see if you can get to any mothers groups and make some friends so you don't feel so isolated (I know it must be impossible with so many children).

Your partner should be happy for you to make some friends and have something for you outside of being a mother, if he is not happy with this then it is another alarm bell. I presume he is also just very used to the way things have been for so long but none the less that does not make it ok.

I'm sorry you are having to navigate this, especially alone. You must be a very strong woman being a mama to six kids. Wishing you all the best.

Not really fair English taxpayers are funding your birth choices if you or DH are paying tax in Poland. Any tax you paid before you moved will be long spent. Just thinking of how up against it most hospitals are to have someone just rock up feels a bit cheeky.

What stops the partners using birth control to prevent this though?

That’s not true. I live in Scotland and have a friend who is a midwife and she says she sees many women who have come from Poland for a few weeks for the sole purpose of giving birth. She says its not questioned.

I don't think her husband is abusive. Unpleasant yes, but being a bit of a wanker is not abuse FFS.

DO NOT JUST TAKE HIS CHILDREN AWAY FROM POLAND WITHOUT HIS PERMISSION.
If you do that you stand a very good chance of a prison sentence and loss of custody altogether.

If you're so unhappy with him seperate by all means - but you should stay in Poland and make a life for yourself there. Your children are Polish citizens and have a right to see their father whenever they want.

He has as much right to be with his children as you do.

Plus all your children have roots in Poland. Their friends are there as well as their father.

Maybe it's not that easy saying no to him??

So sorry you’re going through that, OP. I second others - please do seek support and come back here. He doesn’t sound nice, and the hair shave seems like he was jealous of the little boy 💐

I think he would. Not because he thinks he can look after them but because he knows their mother wouldn’t let them live in Poland without her.

You need proper legal advice op re if you can bring the children back. You sound to be in abusive relationship. Is there a woman's aid or support in Poland. Do you have friends who can help. Any friends in the UK to give you emotional support. You so brave and a super mum here x

If you're resident in Poland then you're not entitled to free maternity care even if you were UK born, are you aware of that OP? Polish EHIC cards don't cover it. If your DH is doing the paperwork then he may be committing fraud if you're not paying.

If he is truely abusive, then there is a high chance he will stop her as a way to control her. He will know she isn’t going to put herself in the position where she loses her kids. He will not want to lose control over her. He will tell her is she doesn’t return with them he will force their return. She will return. This has nothing to do with him actually parenting them.

I just don’t want to give the OP advice thst can work or to harm her or her kids. She needs to, if he really is abusive, leave and stay in Poland and fight to bring the kids here legally. Just bringing them of stopping their return is illegal.

if he is not abusive maybe he will want to parent his children in their home. He may be happy for the OP to separate from him but keep his children where he has access to them.

They are Polish citizens if their father is Polish. If you move the kids abroad without father’s permission, he can legally request their return.

I can't imagine the logistics of trying to move country with 5 or 6 kids with no ties to any area of the Uk and initially no recourse to benefits and no way to support yourself. You would be better off seeking help in Poland initially until the kids are older.

You can separate for any reason OP.

But wanting to move your 6 kids to a completely new country is a massive deal and I think you haven’t thought this through.

What happens when you give birth and your other kids are in school?
Who looks after them and who is looking after them this time?