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To want to move back to england with my 5 children

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tryingtogohome · 10/06/2026 17:35

Hi sorry if this is all over the place

I live in Poland with my partner who is Polish and we have 5 boys 15 11 5 3 and 10 months and im pregnant again 25 weeks

I keep thinking about leaving him and going back to England but then i think im being stupid because ive been here so long and dont even know where id start anymore.

I dont really have anybody. No family. I grew up in care and havent spoken to anyone from my past for years and years.

Things have got worse between me and my partner. Hes always saying what a real man should be and boys shouldnt cry and things like that. My 15 year old argues with him constanly (constantly) now and the whole house feels tense all the time.

This is going to sound silly but i keep feeling like this baby is a girl and every time i say it he gets annoyed. Not shouting just annoyed and says he doesnt want a daughter and what would he do with a girl and says hopefully im wrong. Maybe im overreacting but it upsets me more than it should.

I dont know if its hormones.

I keep looking at Doncaster and Rotherham and Sheffield on my phone when everyone is asleep and then crying because i dont even know if my children could go to school there after living here all this time or where we would live.

I know people will say leave if youre unhappy but it isnt that easy when youve got this many children and no money and nowhere to go.

Am i being unreasonable wanting to go back to England or does this sound completly mad after 11 years away

I do speak Polish, not perfectly but enough for day to day things and appointments and schools etc. I didnt when i first came here but i do now.

I dont really have any friends though. I had a couple years ago but not anymore. Everyone sort of drifted away and i dont really go anywhere without the children now.
All of the children are his. They were all born in England apart from the baby who is 10 months. He came early at 31 weeks and was in hospital for a while and thats part of whats panicing me this time because im pregnant again and keep worrying the same thing will happen.

I dont know about passports off the top of my head because my head is all over the place today. The older boys definitely have British passports. I think the younger ones do as well but I'd have to check.

Something happened yesterday that i cant stop thinking about. I went out with the baby and when i got back my partner had shaved my 3 year olds hair off. He had lovely little curls and now half his head is basically shaved. He said it was only hair and he was messing about but my little boy was crying and didnt want anyone looking at him.

Maybe that sounds stupid compared to bigger problems but it really upset me. Hes only 3.

OP posts:
Speakeasier · 11/06/2026 09:16

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 08:53

Do you honestly think the benefits are important here?

Billions gets given away to refugees and asylum seekers plus billions more in overseas aid.

Supporting one extra family especially when Mum is UK citizen to claim who's has had a shit start in life and isn't going to make any difference to the benefits situation.

Absolutely yes. I’d rather have ten asylum seekers who want to actually work and contribute than one British person who wants to bring up her six children on benefits having contributed nothing to the British taxpayer.

Speakeasier · 11/06/2026 09:13

Jolenepleasetakeawaymyman · 11/06/2026 02:58

Dear OP please ignore the negative posts. There are many of us on here who feel sympathy and empathy for your position.

I was stuck in a Gulf region country and am now back in the UK. It took me 5 years to be able to move back but I did. So see this as a long term project.

As I said in my earlier post take one step at a time. Step one stay safe. Priorities your own health. Your kids need you as the sane parent. Get your treatment and the best care you can for your current pregnancy. Does your partner insist on being at all your appointments? Can you talk to your doctors about contraception for as soon as you give birth perhaps with a slant on a need to protect your health after so many pregnancies and previous preeclampsia? Would you be able to get your tubes tied when you give birth?

You must be exhausted and scared. I know and wish I could give you a big hug.

Once you have your baby and your contraception sorted you can start to build on your own health. Again start with small steps. Get as much rest as you can (really difficult with small kids I know). Eat as healthy as you can. Can you get the other little ones into some day care in Poland to help with this?

And for now this is probably enough. Once you are feeling stronger you can will feel better able to support all your kids. And maybe start looking for work but that is further down the line.

Step 2 start saving any money you can as an emergency fund. Every little helps if you can.

Step 3 get support now where you live. Some posters have offered to look for you. Can you find mum and baby groups you could attend? Again this is for you and your own mental health.

To other posters please be gentle with OP. She needs support not questioning about her use of the NHS or benefits she hasn’t even claimed yet!

Big hugs OP stay strong- your kids have a great mum who loves and cares for them.

No. She is irresponsible and selfish.

Being born in this country shouldn’t be some golden card to be a drain on our resources. You should earn the right to use our services. Having six children is crazy when you can’t support yourself and have a rocky marriage. People moan about immigrants but this is far, far worse when many immigrants want to work and contribute to society and many do and actually work for the NHS or as carers. The OP just wants to live off benefits with her many children. This is a much bigger problem for our society. And what kind of future is she offering those poor children.

And as for coming over here just to give birth. Words fail me.

Callalilly2016 · 11/06/2026 09:12

Please do not listen to people saying just go back to the UK. You won’t be legally allowed to take the children without his permission and the UK would return them to him in Poland. Depending on your status in Poland, you may not have residency rights without him. You could end up in a situation where the children are stuck in Poland and you don’t have the right to live there. Seek proper legal advice both on the children and your residency rights if you were to leave him.

SpudGunToo · 11/06/2026 09:02

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 08:53

Do you honestly think the benefits are important here?

Billions gets given away to refugees and asylum seekers plus billions more in overseas aid.

Supporting one extra family especially when Mum is UK citizen to claim who's has had a shit start in life and isn't going to make any difference to the benefits situation.

Yes, they are important. We should not be paying benefits to people who want to move to the UK and who have never contributed.

It sounds like she’s already cheated the country out of tens of thousands of pounds through health tourism but that’s no reason to suggest it can continue.

She’d take the entire contributions of around ten average working families if she came to the UK and was allowed to claim benefits with six children.

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 08:57

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 07:39

You do realise keeping women pregnant and vulnerable is often part of the cycle of abuse?

She says the baby wasn't planned, does that also mean he's interfered with her contraception?

Please think before you post

I think she said she popped back to the UK each time she gave birth (except once).

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 08:53

slowhandss · 11/06/2026 07:15

She doesn’t have family here. Her children have been raised as Polish. She would just be claiming thousands/millions in benefits over their lifetime

Do you honestly think the benefits are important here?

Billions gets given away to refugees and asylum seekers plus billions more in overseas aid.

Supporting one extra family especially when Mum is UK citizen to claim who's has had a shit start in life and isn't going to make any difference to the benefits situation.

TakeMeDancing · 11/06/2026 08:50

Sassylovesbooks · 10/06/2026 22:17

Your husband has taken you to Poland, where it's been easy to isolate you. It may be where you have grown up in care, you are perhaps vulnerable too. You have no family or friends to speak of in the UK, so no support system to turn to either. Individually, these things probably aren't that significant but together, it paints a picture of a man, who wants to control you, he wants you dependant on him (hence why he's not keen on you working) and by you keep having babies, it keeps you trapped and tied to him. He knows he can treat you as he wishes, because he knows you have no where to go, and no support system. In essence, he's a nasty, abusive bully.

You can't simply leave the country. Your children's primary residence is in Poland, and one child is Polish born. You would need to seek proper legal advice regarding this, otherwise you could be in an even more dreadful situation.

You may need to find out, what help there is for you in Poland, and separate. You would sadly, have no choice but to stay in Poland, because there's no way your partner is going to agree to you and the children moving back to the UK.

Once the baby is born, sort out proper contraception. Stop having babies with this man.

This.

No childhood family/connections/support network ✅
Moves you to a country where you don’t fluently speak the language ✅
Saddles you with 6 children ✅
Tells you that you’re not allowed to get a job ✅
Forbidding your native language in the home ✅

Isolating you in regards to language, support networks, financial independence, and being burdened with 6 children is how he will keep you under the thumb.

SilverLining77 · 11/06/2026 08:47

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 07:47

Does Poland even have an equivalent of Womans Aid?

https://niebieskalinia.info/kontakt/pomoc-w-jezyku-angielskim/
This one is even in English so no interpreter needed.

Pomoc w języku angielskim – Ogólnopolskie Pogotowie dla Osób Doznających Przemocy Domowej „Niebieska Linia”

https://niebieskalinia.info/kontakt/pomoc-w-jezyku-angielskim/

ShetlandishMum · 11/06/2026 08:44

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 07:53

Op i think the place to start is the British Embassy see what help they can give you.

Your oldest boy is 15, when are the exam years and whats the school leaving age in Poland?
I think 15 could be a very difficult time to move.

But I do think you should arrange to be sterilised as soon as this baby is born. 6 kids is a lot even through they are spaced out it's a lot to try and support them all

The embassy won't help. Not their job.
You eller get a number or two for charities working with families.

ShetlandishMum · 11/06/2026 08:40

Ocelotfeet27 · 11/06/2026 07:02

Oh OP I'm so sorry. Ignore anyone who says you are being melodramatic. Postpartum depression can stem from feeling powerless and like everyone around you ignored your feelings. Take back control. As PPs have said start preparing for an exit, even if you don't go you will feel more in control of your life. Go back to the UK to have your baby with everything ready to go so you don't have to go back to Poland, and then decide what to do when there - you could seek help and explain your situation and try to stay in the UK, or go back to Poland. When you are in front of the authorities, charities etc in the UK you have the best chance of remaining. As PPs have said also prepare for your separated life in Poland - ensure all child benefits etc are paid to you, that you know how to get support with housing, what the legalities are around separated parents in Poland. This info gathering may also help you in making your decision - if eg you found that fathers generally get custody of the kids in Poland you may want to take them back to UK.

Alternatively do you have Polish residency? If so do you have the right to move anywhere in Europe? If so perhaps in time you could seek to move elsewhere- but with six ery young children that doesn't feel immediately practical. However could be a good future option to get further away from partner whilst not going all the way back to the UK.

Settle in another EU country as a single mum without savings or job with a 7 persons family to take care of?

which EU country will provide you with (cheap?) housing for seven? The children will go to school in a new country not in Poilush or English? Which job would mum do for a living - or which EU country provide so well with benefits you would be able to have a good life with 6 kids as a newcomer? And you still ned dad to say "ok go for it".

PurpleSheep123 · 11/06/2026 08:22

There’s so many unanswered questions.

Are you married?
Does your husband work?
What’s your status in Poland? Are you resident or citizen?
There’s social housing and support available in Poland. The child benefit alone is £160 per child per month.
Your best bet for now is to try separate from him and then plan moving back to the UK. You’ll need legal arrangement with him, no one is going to let you through the UK borders with 6 kids without asking questions.
I know this for sure as been in similar situation but with only one child. I had to have legal arrangement with the child’s father who remained in Poland while I moved to the UK.
It’s not impossible but will need to be strategically planned over time.

oliviaAustin · 11/06/2026 08:18

I’m sorry OP but you’re not taking in what people are saying.

  1. If you take the children to England without his or a courts permission he will take them back and you may be convicted of kidnapping
  2. Even if you got permission you would not qualify for benefits or housing from the council you would need to self fund these
  3. You do not qualify for NHS care except in an emergency
  4. The children do not qualify for school places in the UK as they are not residents there

You cannot simply move back. You need to separate from your husband in Poland, aim to get a job and support you all and, if possible, go through the courts to get permission to come back to UK. Then you need to look for a UK job before moving so you’re not homeless.

SpudGunToo · 11/06/2026 08:10

slowhandss · 11/06/2026 07:15

She doesn’t have family here. Her children have been raised as Polish. She would just be claiming thousands/millions in benefits over their lifetime

Fortunately she’s unlikely to qualify for benefits, although I suppose it’s possible she’ll try to commit fraud to get them anyway.

The two-child cap would have been a disincentive here but sadly it’s been scrapped.

Glowingup · 11/06/2026 07:56

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 07:47

Does Poland even have an equivalent of Womans Aid?

Poland isn’t the third world! There will be support organisations that the OP can contact.
Another thing she can and should do is improve her Polish! It’s somewhat unacceptable to have lived in a country for that many years and not be fluent in the language.

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 07:53

Op i think the place to start is the British Embassy see what help they can give you.

Your oldest boy is 15, when are the exam years and whats the school leaving age in Poland?
I think 15 could be a very difficult time to move.

But I do think you should arrange to be sterilised as soon as this baby is born. 6 kids is a lot even through they are spaced out it's a lot to try and support them all

user1476613140 · 11/06/2026 07:49

Sounds like staying in Poland is your only option but moving to a different part of Poland with your DC. Leaving to move back to the UK sounds like you could end up in a legal dispute with your partner and why unsettle all your DC? Get yourself settled in a safe place in Poland OP.

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 07:47

SilverLining77 · 11/06/2026 07:44

Is there a reason why you are not seeking support from Women's Aid in Poland, I'm sure they can arrange interpreter?

Does Poland even have an equivalent of Womans Aid?

Observed · 11/06/2026 07:45

OP, you could call the OPOKA helpline: 0300 365 1700 (check out the website for more info) for legal advice and support. Good luck 🩵

SilverLining77 · 11/06/2026 07:44

Is there a reason why you are not seeking support from Women's Aid in Poland, I'm sure they can arrange interpreter?

Newname26 · 11/06/2026 07:39

safetyfreak · 10/06/2026 19:03

I am not sure you can, it sounds like 4 of your children (soon to be 5) were born in Poland? Surely there are laws stopping parents from taking kids abroad?

Yes, also having six kids with a man you and your kids aren't happy with is...inexcusable.

You do realise keeping women pregnant and vulnerable is often part of the cycle of abuse?

She says the baby wasn't planned, does that also mean he's interfered with her contraception?

Please think before you post

Ethelspagetti · 11/06/2026 07:39

user1476613140 · 11/06/2026 07:33

Why did you move to Poland in the first place? And please use contraception once baby no6 arrives so you don't end up with baby no7.

Agreed. Contraception is key here.

Ethelspagetti · 11/06/2026 07:38

I think I’d stay with him as there are 6 children to consider. I imagine that would be very difficult for you to bring up alone in a separate country to their father. You have no support in the UK.

user1476613140 · 11/06/2026 07:33

Why did you move to Poland in the first place? And please use contraception once baby no6 arrives so you don't end up with baby no7.

Soontobe60 · 11/06/2026 07:29

OP, have a read of this, it might be useful.
https://mapujpomoc.pl/en/list-of-organizations-supporting-victims-of-violence/

slowhandss · 11/06/2026 07:15

user1492757084 · 11/06/2026 06:13

Op is British, I assume, as are her children so why wouldn't they be welcome to use the NHS and re-establish themselves there?
Op will need support and will need to find housing and work.
Why can't she stay near her UK family?

It makes sense for the best outcomes for her children that they keep and build a connection to their birth country.

Edited

She doesn’t have family here. Her children have been raised as Polish. She would just be claiming thousands/millions in benefits over their lifetime