Did you know about this other attempted beheading?

Yes, I had heard about this dreadful incident. Must have been on the TV or radio because I don't read papers much.

I think the reason people get so annoyed (no excuse for rioting and violence though) is that this girl and her family would appear to have been in the UK for generations (willing to be corrected) so we have no choice as to whether she lives here or not. The man in Northern Ireland had been granted asylum. A safe place to live from whatever he was fleeing from in his home country, and he repays the favour by trying to murder someone. Unfortunately it has happened too many times with rapes, attacks, general criminal activity being carried out by people we have given a safe haven to and people are sick of it. Yes, I know not all immigrants/asylum seekers are criminals. Yes, I know people who have lived here for generations can also be criminals. We just don't need to be importing more.

The whole system needs a thorough overhaul so that we can be sure who we are letting make their lives here. We don't go out without locking our doors because we don't want just anybody to make free with our homes. It should be the same with our country.

I cannot quote any 'peer reviewed evidence', I can only speak of experience within my family. My niece, her partner and their 5 year old have been living with his parents in a two bedroom bungalow for 5 years. During that time several housing association houses have been allocated to families who definitely do not come from the local area. I know for a fact that at least two of these families do not speak English because I know the people who live next door. Another relative who worked for the housing association has resigned in protest about recent allocations.

Why haven’t we heard of it though? This is the real two tier system that the far-right try to claim is affecting them.

This girl was radicalised so clearly it’s an act of terrorism but because she is white it is classed as a mental health issue. This is even memed time and time again in social media

Maybe re title your thread to ‘whataboutery’. It’s a more apt description of this desperate attempt to deflect. Man, the woke desperation is really kicking in now.

I cannot quote any 'peer reviewed evidence', I can only speak of experience within my family. My niece, her partner and their 5 year old have been living with his parents in a two bedroom bungalow for 5 years. During that time several housing association houses have been allocated to families who definitely do not come from the local area. I know for a fact that at least two of these families do not speak English because I know the people who live next door. Another relative who worked for the housing association has resigned in protest about recent allocations.

Where is your evidence that 'migrants jump to the front of the housing queue'? Here's some fact checking from Reuters that says the contrary. https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/asylum-seekers-jumping-social-housing-queue-claims-are-misleading-2024-12-12/

Depends how good your legal team is.

In the last few decades we've seen some big changes in how people get news. The arrival of cable TV, digital channels, internet etc has made it possible to put out news stories all day long, endlessly repeated, and when a really nasty crime is reported over and over again on all media it makes more of an impact on the public than in the old days when it was on the front page of a newspaper one day and chip wrappings the next. This has left a lot of people with the impression that crime is worse than it used to be, which is not the case.

Also, people used to get their news from newspapers, the BBC, ITV and Channel 4. Whatever you think of them, they're all regulated within the UK. What's taken their place is social media, which is not properly regulated at all, not run from the UK and is incredibly sophisticated in the way it feeds articles to users based on algorithms. If you show an interest in stories about puppies or knitting or football, you get more of the same. If the thing that really gets you going is migration, you get more of that, but with no guarantee whatsoever that what people are saying about it is true. This has been exploited by people who certainly don't have the UK's interests at heart.

What is actually true is that in the last ten years in England and Wales there have been fewer violent crimes than there were. This corresponds with a period when immigration has increased, so there's a conundrum right there for those who want us all to believe that immigrants are disproportionately responsible for crimes.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingdecember2025

Data for YE December 2025 showed that:

• the number of homicides decreased by 6% (to 503 offences) compared with YE December 2024 (534 offences)
• offences involving knives or sharp instruments decreased by 10% (to 49,151 offences) compared with YE December 2024 (54,548 offences); falls were seen across most regions in England and Wales
• offences involving firearms decreased by 9% (to 4,753 offences) compared with YE December 2024 (5,241 offences); this was the lowest figure since current police recording practices began in YE March 2003
• the number of robbery of personal property offences decreased by 12% (to 58,508 offences) compared with the previous year, however, overall robbery increased by 4% (to 84,666 offences) mainly because of improvements to recording practices for robbery of business property
• following recent rises in shoplifting, there was a 1% decrease (to 509,566 offences) in YE December 2025 compared with the previous year (516,611 offences)

It is two tier. She has gone to prison for 15 years, whereas the Nottingham killer goes to hospital.

Don’t be stupid

It is two tier. She has gone to prison for 15 years, whereas the Nottingham killer goes to hospital.

Depends how good your legal team is.

So nothing to do with race then, just that one had a better legal team than the other?

Personally I’d rather do a stretch in prison than be incarcerated in a secure hospital, but maybe that’s just me.

It is two tier. She has gone to prison for 15 years, whereas the Nottingham killer goes to hospital.

Depends how good your legal team is.

Showing she’s not actually mentally unwell and instead did it because she’s an evil cunt

It is two tier. She has gone to prison for 15 years, whereas the Nottingham killer goes to hospital.

Why haven’t we heard of it though? This is the real two tier system that the far-right try to claim is affecting them.

This girl was radicalised so clearly it’s an act of terrorism but because she is white it is classed as a mental health issue. This is even memed time and time again in social media

It is two tier. She has gone to prison for 15 years, whereas the Nottingham killer goes to hospital.

It is two tier. She has gone to prison for 15 years, whereas the Nottingham killer goes to hospital.

Both incidents are horrible..innocent people suffered:(. Is the motive behind both incidents the same?

Can you provide a list of attempted beheadings in the UK in the last 5 years, with demographic info on the perps?

Do you have statistics on religiously or racially motivated attacks?

Or is this just a vibes-based position on your part?