Did you know about this other attempted beheading?

Blame the far right who think it’s appropriate to fire bomb houses with kids in.

Do you not understand that any campaign that is launched will be branded as "far right" and "racist" and "fascist" just as Reform and Farage have been? The only acceptable narrative is "stop the division" followed by whataboutery. It is a way of avoiding the real problem of the hollowing out of state services and a dire economy that offers no future to young people in this country,

There is a clear danger now that terms which had previously been used to shame people into certain patterns of behaviour (Nazi, racist, fascist, far-right) have been over-used and so stripped of their previous power.
Combined with a government which is incapable of understanding the grievances of it's citizens, events are only going to accelerate in one direction.
I am really concerned about where we are headed because we are losing the ability to listen to each other.

I wish people would stop lumping in immigrants with asylum seekers. Most legal immigrants are either students, who subsidies British students with their massive fees, or NHS and care workers, who do the jobs many Brits done seem to care for. These groups are very welcome here and swamp the tiny number of boat people.

She's the wrong colour/religion for the press and social media to be outraged.

The thing is, I am not in favour of completely open borders. I think year on year immigration got too high under the last years of the conservatives and did need to fall. I don't know if it needed to fall that much and I worry about the consequences but I can see why some people would want it. I also don't like things like the money laundering/drug dealing in vape shops and think it's good it's being cracked down on now with raids and new laws. Time will tell is it works. I also know and get on with people who have different opinions on immigration to me.

But none of that matters. If you don't join in with the Anger, or criticise the riots then you are a lefty liberal fool who doesn't understand why the self identified People(tm) are Angry. It's like the more Angry you are the more moral you are. I don't personally think people that riot and burn down houses with babies inside them decide to be listened to more than everyone else. Why? Why don't the (varied) opinions of people that aren't attacking policemen or setting fire to buses get centred. The point at which people like Farage/Musk support that ot try to profit from it politically is the point at which any decent person would walk away from them because you can't decry violence and excuse violent riots at the same time.

More deflection. 😅

You have no evidence. You just believe this because you consume too much far right content. Saying something over and over without evidence doesn't make it true.

I was just going off how you described them tbh. Whiny snowflakes seems to fit going odd your posts.

Know every one of them personally, do you?

Afraid to launch a campaign because it might be countered. Sounds like they just aren't cut out for politics. It's OK not everyone is.

Great user name.

And what ‘same shit’ would that be ?

All very reasonable. But it doesn’t change the perception for people who have been on LA housing lists for very long periods of time and who are living in overcrowded conditions. They perceive that refugees are jumping the queue while they have waited their turn, only to be pushed further down the list. It may not be accurate, but it’s understandable.

Yeah because that's what clever people do, they don't say oh millions of people are taking our message up wrong maybe we should look at how we are communicating it? Instead they 'double down' and keep regurgitating the same shit over and over again, that will surely help the cause.

So not having a proper campaign but violence by hard right wing thugs and fascist agitators who can't handle their way or the highway which is what's happening now is ok because that's the implication.

You can partly blame Brexit, and also blame the right wing in Europe for this shit show.

Vibes-based. Is that a new wanky term I've not heard about?

People are housed on the basis of being homeless in those situations. Your neice is overcrowded but has somewhere to live

When asylum seekers are granted refugee status the NASS accommodation is withdrawn almost instantly, families have around 7 days to get out of the property because they are no longer supported by the HO and now have the right to public funding/benefits/housing whereas they dont while seeking asylum.

So they are going to be homeless in 7 days and therefore will have a higher need than someone who is overcrowded.

Successive governments have not built enough social housing.

Well you haven’t given me much leeway to reply have you ? You can deny there’s a problem if you want and cry racism if that’s what you believe. It doesn’t change anything. The asylum system is not fit for purpose and is actively putting UK citizens at risk. I don’t care where migrants are from, but it’s undeniable that many do not share our values or respect for life. The fact is that there are many issues connected with it and people like me, who have valid concerns at what’s happening in our local areas have those concerns routinely dismissed as either far right or racist views.

I don’t have any problem with migrants coming here to work, and who respect our laws. I do have a problem with those who have no intention of that, and who actively harm others. And I have concerns about the sustainability and fitness for purpose of the migration/asylum system, and even bigger concerns about the illegal element, as well as being deeply concerned about the trend of those in power dismissing concerns like mine as far right and racist so they don’t have to deal with them. Kicking the can down the road doesn’t solve anything.

You're only taking into account the rioters. Call them what you like. If they are stupid enough to play into your hands more fools them. Im talking about the every day man and woman who doesn't let their anger and frustration out on violence. So for the poster talking about one-dimensional thinking, she's right, just not in the way she suspects she is.

Did you only read the first line of my post? I asked about beheadings in line one as this is the thread topic, then I asked if you have general stats in line two.

I see that your position must be vibes-based as you don't seem to have any supporting evidence.

NB edited for clarity

"Terrorist related" it says. Yet they say Belfast wasn't terrorism.
I wonder how they came to that conclusion 🤔

When they target migrant houses to set on fire, what should we call them?

So the disabled Welsh woman with 4 kids stays homeless whilst people with less need than her are housed?

Launch a proper campaign? - the types that will be countered by hard left thugs and lefty agitators who can't handle their way or the highway mentality not working.

The more citizens are called far right racists the more they will double down. Maybe the rioters aren't the only ones who should be looking at their own behaviour.