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Did you know about this other attempted beheading?

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Whiski · 10/06/2026 09:56

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7pg7nk53go

First I ever heard of it was yesterday.

People act like it’s only non white people that do this.

A police mugshot of Alina Burns, wearing a black hooded jacket and a grey T-shirt. She has blue eyes and her blonde hair is closely shaven. She is standing against a light grey background, looking ahead with a blank expression.

Father of jailed neo-Nazi teenager says 'everyone failed her'

Alina Burns, 19, was jailed in May for attempting to behead a barber.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7pg7nk53go

OP posts:
Megifer · 10/06/2026 18:05

I saw this and was shocked when I heard it was a white person.

When I heard about the Belfast attempted beheading I was not remotely shocked to hear it was not a white person.

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 18:04

LuckyHazelFox · 10/06/2026 18:02

Going looking for random knife crimes is bizarre but then so is this whole OP.

True. A horrific crime occurs so a young, slight teenage girl with MH issues must be found.

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2026 18:04

LuckyHazelFox · 10/06/2026 18:02

Going looking for random knife crimes is bizarre but then so is this whole OP.

It wasn’t a knife. It was an axe. But, yes, white teenage girl - nothing to see here.

ThreadGuardDog · 10/06/2026 18:03

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:59

They are thugs and many of them are far right as we have seen.

There are concerns, ofcourse there are but these riots are not that.

And so it continues. So given that the unrest was sparked by a vicious attack on an innocent person by a failed asylum seeker and is by no means the first of it’s kind, what do you think was behind it ?

LuckyHazelFox · 10/06/2026 18:02

Going looking for random knife crimes is bizarre but then so is this whole OP.

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 18:00

SomeGarlic · 10/06/2026 17:58

Hmm, patterns of savagery. Maybe we should be looking at teenage girls?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gydjpdwy2o

Teenage girls really won’t be high up on crime stats.

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:59

ThreadGuardDog · 10/06/2026 17:48

A last count over 1.5m immigrants on benefits eight years after entering the country. I live in an area of high immigration, l see every day how many don’t share our values, or respect for life. Calls for Sharia law, streets where white people are afraid to walk, no go areas for the police. My daughter has been assaulted while walking past the migrant housing centre. She’s had them follow her home shouting vile sexual comments at her and has been told she’s a slut for not covering up her body in public. She’s 14. There have been attempts to kill/harm my dog and the pets of other residents here. The crime rates here have soared and sexual assault is common. This is my lived experience, but according to people like you we should just put up and shut up.

As for the rioters, clearly there is an element that will use incidents like this to agitate and incite violence. But there are those who are sick and tired of having their concerns minimised and dismissed by government, and who, frighteningly, will turn to this kind of violence more and more because it’s easier to brand them far right thugs than actually listen and address their concerns.

They are thugs and many of them are far right as we have seen.

There are concerns, ofcourse there are but these riots are not that.

ThreadGuardDog · 10/06/2026 17:59

likelysuspect · 10/06/2026 17:40

Autism is not a MH condition

Anorexia is not a psychosis so wouldnt really classify as an illness that she would need detainment for unless she is not eating at all and then she might be hospitalised.

But anorexia would not be a reason for trying to kill someone, her MH is irrelevant in terms of her crime.

Prison is the right place for her unless she becomes unwell in which case she might need a short general hospital stay unless she becomes psychiatrically unwell to the degree of needing detainment under the MHA

Autism is not a MH on its own, but around a third of those who have it also have learning disabilities. Those who have Autism are also much more likely to have severe associated mental health conditions.

A proportion of my caseload as a disability outreach worker was supporting families who were dealing with autistic adult children, many of whom were violent as a result of these conditions. Help for these families is patchy and in some areas non-existent so, as seems to have been the case with this girls’ father, they are left to struggle. So you can’t really state that prison is the right place for offenders who have these conditions without examining all the factors.

The state of MH services in the UK means that too often those with MH conditions don’t get appropriate intervention before they offend and they end up in prison instead of appropriately hospitalised.

Ponoka7 · 10/06/2026 17:59

Chocolatefreak · 10/06/2026 17:31

It's interesting that her father had tried to seek help as a result of her medical diagnosis but didn't think it concerning when she started spouting Reform-type views.

Reform's calls to cold white rage are directly responsible for this. Farage foments violence.

Yet we are not allowed to declare that Islam has caused any of the multiple attacks. There's hundreds stopped, one fairly recent, by a Father coming out from visiting his Wife and Newborn seeing a man suspiciously hanging around the maternity wing. We aren't allowed to say that a common theme is women and children being targeted. Part of the issue is the blame always follows one path, but apparently there's lots of factors at play, when it's from a man from certain communities.

Error404FucksNotFound · 10/06/2026 17:58

The attack was used as an excuse by racists to be violent.

I dont believe they give a flying fuck about the victim.

When the perpetrator is white British, they don't have an excuse to attack brown and black people so they dont even pretend to care.

SomeGarlic · 10/06/2026 17:58

LuckyHazelFox · 10/06/2026 10:54

Maybe if a pattern of savagery didn't keep presenting itself the media coverage night be different. One white girl tries to carry out a beheading. How many other cases are there with the same targetted act of barbarism?

Hmm, patterns of savagery. Maybe we should be looking at teenage girls?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gydjpdwy2o

A police car parked outside a school as people walk past.

Teacher and two pupils stabbed in Manchester school attack

A 14-year-old schoolgirl is arrested after the knife attack at the Co-op Academy in Blackley.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gydjpdwy2o

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 17:58

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:56

That is sufficient information then

For you. I’m interested in how someone can enter in that way.

Not even related to him particularly.

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:57

likelysuspect · 10/06/2026 17:51

You dont have to speculate it came out in court and is reported freely. He flew from France into Dublin. Then crossed into NI, then sought asylum and was granted the first stage of it 5 years LTR.

Then there was no need for the question how he got here.

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:56

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 17:46

Who said it was? The papers are covering his entry btw which was via Dublin from France.

That is sufficient information then

ChequerToRed · 10/06/2026 17:54

This is fairly local to me so it’s been all over the news here.
As for the racial aspect, we had a very high profile double murder of two teenage boys here a couple of years ago and the gang of little shitbags who did it were a variety pack of races.
Nobody rioted.

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 17:52

likelysuspect · 10/06/2026 17:51

You dont have to speculate it came out in court and is reported freely. He flew from France into Dublin. Then crossed into NI, then sought asylum and was granted the first stage of it 5 years LTR.

Exactly. It’s being reported.

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2026 17:51

The double standards on this thread are mind blowing.

likelysuspect · 10/06/2026 17:51

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:37

Not by small boat crossing.

But we shouldn't speculate as it is a live case.

You dont have to speculate it came out in court and is reported freely. He flew from France into Dublin. Then crossed into NI, then sought asylum and was granted the first stage of it 5 years LTR.

Chocolatefreak · 10/06/2026 17:51

LuckyHazelFox · 10/06/2026 17:42

Not white rage. Farage has already been wrongly stated as saying that and for which the BBC had to apologise. Interesting you subbed that word tho.

Apologies, pure cold rage.

She had mental health issues - but it was only when she was clearly brainwashed by Farage/Reform's call to go out and commit violence that she acted criminally.

Farage knows exactly what he is about - he preys on the vulnerable and volatile and they go out and do his dirty work for free. Vile man and dangerous, insidious grooming of the young. Also of the highly impressionable - by the large number of Farage/Reform apologists on here it's clear his ideology is working across generations.

ThreadGuardDog · 10/06/2026 17:48

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:28

So you have a problem with a small number of immigrants as the majority work and respect our laws.

Unless you can back up your 'it’s undeniable that many do not share our values or respect for life.'

Do you think those rioters share our values or respect for life?

A last count over 1.5m immigrants on benefits eight years after entering the country. I live in an area of high immigration, l see every day how many don’t share our values, or respect for life. Calls for Sharia law, streets where white people are afraid to walk, no go areas for the police. My daughter has been assaulted while walking past the migrant housing centre. She’s had them follow her home shouting vile sexual comments at her and has been told she’s a slut for not covering up her body in public. She’s 14. There have been attempts to kill/harm my dog and the pets of other residents here. The crime rates here have soared and sexual assault is common. This is my lived experience, but according to people like you we should just put up and shut up.

As for the rioters, clearly there is an element that will use incidents like this to agitate and incite violence. But there are those who are sick and tired of having their concerns minimised and dismissed by government, and who, frighteningly, will turn to this kind of violence more and more because it’s easier to brand them far right thugs than actually listen and address their concerns.

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 17:46

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:37

Not by small boat crossing.

But we shouldn't speculate as it is a live case.

Who said it was? The papers are covering his entry btw which was via Dublin from France.

LuckyHazelFox · 10/06/2026 17:42

Chocolatefreak · 10/06/2026 17:31

It's interesting that her father had tried to seek help as a result of her medical diagnosis but didn't think it concerning when she started spouting Reform-type views.

Reform's calls to cold white rage are directly responsible for this. Farage foments violence.

Not white rage. Farage has already been wrongly stated as saying that and for which the BBC had to apologise. Interesting you subbed that word tho.

likelysuspect · 10/06/2026 17:40

Stepsisterfromhell · 10/06/2026 17:36

Did you read the article? It might help. She is AUTISTIC and has ANOREXIA - two serious mental illnesses.

"Alina Burns, who is autistic and has anorexia, had been involved with Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (Camhs) when she was younger, but her father claimed she had been abandoned after the service decided she was "too unwell" to attend school."

Autism is not a MH condition

Anorexia is not a psychosis so wouldnt really classify as an illness that she would need detainment for unless she is not eating at all and then she might be hospitalised.

But anorexia would not be a reason for trying to kill someone, her MH is irrelevant in terms of her crime.

Prison is the right place for her unless she becomes unwell in which case she might need a short general hospital stay unless she becomes psychiatrically unwell to the degree of needing detainment under the MHA

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 17:37

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 17:32

Yes but he entered via Dublin. How?

Not by small boat crossing.

But we shouldn't speculate as it is a live case.

Stepsisterfromhell · 10/06/2026 17:36

Walkyrie · 10/06/2026 17:18

If she was mentally ill enough to receive a hospital order rather than a prison sentence her defence would’ve asserted that eg Valdo Calocane

You can be mentally ill but still fit to stand trial, the threshold for a hospital order is high

Did you read the article? It might help. She is AUTISTIC and has ANOREXIA - two serious mental illnesses.

"Alina Burns, who is autistic and has anorexia, had been involved with Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (Camhs) when she was younger, but her father claimed she had been abandoned after the service decided she was "too unwell" to attend school."

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