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AIBU to expect vegan guests to avoid preaching at shared meals?

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maxslice · 10/06/2026 05:01

I’m a flexitarian. Meaning I have a mostly plant focused diet. But if invited to, say, a work event or a wedding or to dinner at my oldest friend’s parents house, I’ll eat a lot of salad, potatoes, and bread. Maybe even a bit of their chicken or beef roast to not cause offense or awkwardness. So, that’s my choice. I have long term dear friends who are vegans. I respect that. But I want them to contribute an appropriate dish to share with everyone if it’s that’s so important to them. That said, I think they should just eat and shut up. Do what works for them and leave other people alone. Judging and preaching at
your host and other people is bad manners. No matter how passionate you are, there’s no need for that. You don’t persuade people by bullying them. Am I wrong?

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HumberSquid · 10/06/2026 13:38

Nearly50omg · 10/06/2026 06:14

This is the reason vegans have the reputation they have unfortunately 🤷‍♀️ the being preached at and lectured at about animals etc and how awful everyone else but them is is past boring now and this is why I don’t invite any vegans to dinner/lunch anymore unless they are bringing their own food as I’m an ok cook with the basics but no way will they get anything other than salad or vegetables if I cook them and there’s another lecture 🙄 nope! Life is too short and having told one bloke to either shut the fuck up or go home last time someone brought a plus one who didn’t mention they were vegan until they turned up and sat down to eat and then said I can’t eat this! I don’t eat dead animals! Don’t you know blah blah blah!!! …

Really, how extrodinary? I can't think of a single vegan (and I know very many) who would rock up at a meal without first checking there was something they could eat and/or bringing something. How very made up unfortunate in your acquaintance you must be.

LadyVioletBridgerton · 10/06/2026 13:36

I lost you at flexitarian 😂 Basically, you eat anything.

Timble · 10/06/2026 13:34

I’m vegan and I know a few vegans. I’ve never encountered a vegan who was as you describe so maybe you’ve been unlucky with guests, could be their awful personality rather than the fact they are vegan? It is definitely rude to preach to people in their homes. However, on the other side I get so much shit as a vegan, I’m literally in it for the animals, all I want is to not take part in harming animals and yet meat eaters constantly make jokes, attempt to belittle me and bring me down. They try to start arguments, lots of Sarcasm etc. It doesn’t actually bother me as I know I’m 100% true to my beliefs but honestly meat eaters can get very aggressive.
Also I’d say Flexitarian doesn’t mean anything at all. If you’re eating most food groups then you’re doing what most people do!

Womanofcustard · 10/06/2026 13:32

Clonakilla · 10/06/2026 06:08

Hmmmmmm I’ve been vegetarian for thirty years. The only people who’ve acted like dickheads like this during a meal have been male meat eaters.

Veggie for 50 years, my experience exactly, although doesn’t happen so often these days.

sleepfortheweek · 10/06/2026 13:24

I agree with a PP - it is never me who brings up my dietary choices. People are curious and I’m constantly being asked why I’m vegan, what do I miss, what do I actually eat etc. in fact, today at tea break someone said to me ‘it’s just the circle of life’ without me even bringing the subject up.

then - if you reply and tell them why you’ve made the decision, people end up getting defensive and start throwing stupid comments into the mix to help them justify their own choices.

i don’t care what anyone else eats and i shouldn’t have to justify why i eat a vegan diet. And yet, it’s always a hot topic of conversation especially with people I don’t know very well.

I've never preached, but if people ask me question, I’ll answer them 🤷🏼‍♀️

ZoeCM · 10/06/2026 13:21

I agree that "flexitarian" is a pointless phrase. "Omnivore" and "meat eater" are already very broad, inclusive terms. Very few people eat a genuinely carnivorous diet. I only drink alcohol about once a month, but I wouldn't call myself a "flexitotaller".

dudsville · 10/06/2026 13:21

Ok, so the thread's op went weird, but I still want to come on to say that I'm grateful to my vegan friends and colleagues. One was militant, and although it made me uncomfortable, I did learn some things that I'm glad to know. Another one is very gentle about it, and again I've learned some things in very glad to know. Over the years, partly because of their and my vegetarian friend's input, my diet had changed massively and I'm glad for that.

NameChangeForTheWeek · 10/06/2026 13:19

30dayss · 10/06/2026 09:36

The problem is that it undermines others and makes everyone look foolish.

So for instance if Sue calls herself a vegetarian but will eat wafer thin ham sometimes, then it makes Dave who is actually a vegetarian look extreme or picky.

And when Lucy makes Dave a ham sandwich thinking it's veggie friendly but Dave doesn't eat it, everyone gets upset.

And Pete will look at Sue and say well she eats meat but says she's a vegetarian. God, vegetarians are stupid and will serve Dave a pasta bake with wafer thin ham in it because it's all a stupid show anyway.

And that is where you end up with people having to defend themselves.

Whether you eat wafer thin ham every day or once a year, you still eat wafer thin ham. Therefore are not vegetarian. You dont need a daft name for that. If you go to a buffet and will eat the wafer thin ham then no one cares about a made up label.

Eat/don't eat what you like, I don't care. I do care if it makes my life harder though.

When I was in a hostel making some dinner I found myself in the company of THREE other vegans. I was delighted! Ten minutes into the conversation it transpired one ate chocolate, one ate yoghurt and cheese and the other ate fish.

It was on the tip of my tongue to say "See lads, this is why people don't like us"

99bottlesofkombucha · 10/06/2026 13:19

thestudio · 10/06/2026 13:12

ARE you ok with murdering animals and destroying the planet?

Just out of interest.

I’m ok with eating meat. I’d like to pay for better meat more consistently but 3dc and cost of living. We grow some fruit and veg. We don’t eat meat every meal. I pay for a collect textile recycling service for clothes too worn to donate, and spend a lot of time I dont have trying to recycle things rather than bin them.
we get a fruit and veggie delivery that reduces plastic and landfill. We are trying, like many. While we bring up 3 active dc who eat all day long and play sports all weekend and every night. But you do you and carry on having a go at people.

RampantIvy · 10/06/2026 13:16

"I’ve just found a choc muffin recipe with zucchini and cannellini beans to try on my dc."

That reminds me of one of the characters in The Vicar of Dibley (Letitia Cropley) 😁

99bottlesofkombucha · 10/06/2026 13:14

RampantIvy · 10/06/2026 13:11

Has anyone noticed that there seems to be a common denominator among the posters on this thread that keep trotting out the garbage of vegans always announcing they are vegan?

I suspect they tend to be the goady sort who eat a limited diet and can't think outside the meat and 2 veg box (if they even eat vegetables, that is)

Do I? Am I? I love veg. And lentils, I cook an awesome basil chili lentil dish. I’ve just found a choc muffin recipe with zucchini and cannellini beans to try on my dc.

ReginaPhalange1989 · 10/06/2026 13:13

JohnnyFedora · 10/06/2026 13:09

So 25% end up being eaten by vegans...so they're contributing to the clearance 🤷‍♀️

I'm just saying if people are going to preach about morals and ethics they probably shouldn't be throwing stones.

Not solely by Vegans... Soy products are extremely common in Asian cultures.

RampantIvy · 10/06/2026 13:13

Ad why do people invite others round for a meal and are then not prepared to host them properly by giving them vegetarian or vegan foods if they require it? Just why?

It isn't difficult.

thestudio · 10/06/2026 13:12

99bottlesofkombucha · 10/06/2026 13:06

Hahhaaa haha you have clearly not met the preachy vegans among us. ‘Well if you’re ok with murdering animals and destroying the planet, I’m sure it tastes nice.’
a family member so no one is uninviting her, but it’s hard work!

ARE you ok with murdering animals and destroying the planet?

Just out of interest.

UndertheBeard · 10/06/2026 13:12

JohnnyFedora · 10/06/2026 13:09

So 25% end up being eaten by vegans...so they're contributing to the clearance 🤷‍♀️

I'm just saying if people are going to preach about morals and ethics they probably shouldn't be throwing stones.

It's that kind of mental gymnastics to avoid realising you're the problem that pisses people off.

RampantIvy · 10/06/2026 13:11

Has anyone noticed that there seems to be a common denominator among the posters on this thread that keep trotting out the garbage of vegans always announcing they are vegan?

I suspect they tend to be the goady sort who eat a limited diet and can't think outside the meat and 2 veg box (if they even eat vegetables, that is)

99bottlesofkombucha · 10/06/2026 13:11

JohnnyFedora · 10/06/2026 13:07

Yes but with family, surely you can be direct and tell them to STFU?

No not the next generation up. They’d have to be more directly insulting rather than just very very wearing in their single mindedness. Some neurodiversity. My generation now…

ReginaPhalange1989 · 10/06/2026 13:10

RampantIvy · 10/06/2026 13:03

Sorry. I have just edited my post to say about fortified foods. There is a podcast on the Vegan Society page about B12 following the death of a vegan who didn't consume any B12 at all.

That's fine, no need to apologise.

Ohh I eat a lot of nooch yeast so that could be it!

JohnnyFedora · 10/06/2026 13:09

plantsandwich · 10/06/2026 12:05

Where do you think around 75% of soy beans end up? Google it if you prefer.
I'll give you a clue
It's not to feed the roughly 1-2% of the population who are vegans.

The ignorance baffles me. Seriously, we're in the information age. Ignorance is a choice.

So 25% end up being eaten by vegans...so they're contributing to the clearance 🤷‍♀️

I'm just saying if people are going to preach about morals and ethics they probably shouldn't be throwing stones.

JohnnyFedora · 10/06/2026 13:08

vitahelp · 10/06/2026 13:02

Can you explain what the preaching was like and what was said? I’ve never actually witnessed a vegan preach to anyone and I’ve known and been around quite a few. People always refer to vegans preaching but I’m yet to see it? Has anyone else seen this happen?
ETA: referring to in person encounters, not online where everyone is on the soap box

Edited

TBF I have. A son of a friend who is very enthusiastic, decided to have a pop at me because I took my daughter to a farm park 🤷‍♀️

I didn't engage!

JohnnyFedora · 10/06/2026 13:07

99bottlesofkombucha · 10/06/2026 13:06

Hahhaaa haha you have clearly not met the preachy vegans among us. ‘Well if you’re ok with murdering animals and destroying the planet, I’m sure it tastes nice.’
a family member so no one is uninviting her, but it’s hard work!

Yes but with family, surely you can be direct and tell them to STFU?

99bottlesofkombucha · 10/06/2026 13:06

Jealous of their confidence we are not.

LoughboroughBex · 10/06/2026 13:06

JudgeJ · 10/06/2026 09:27

I know this is MN but, whisper it, there are a lot of the not-male people who like to do exactly the same, in the same way it's the female vegans who are the most vociferous in telling the world how good they are.

I didn’t say anything about it being male or female morons. Although in my experience, it’s men who are going to try to tell I’m missing out on eating pigs

99bottlesofkombucha · 10/06/2026 13:06

Darragon · 10/06/2026 05:12

Yes obviously they shouldn’t preach but you sound like you are very scared of causing offence. If you’re round someone’s house and you’re scared of offending them with your choice of vegetarianism that’s a you problem and you probably don’t care that much about animals after all. So it sounds more like you’re jealous of their confidence more than anything else.

Hahhaaa haha you have clearly not met the preachy vegans among us. ‘Well if you’re ok with murdering animals and destroying the planet, I’m sure it tastes nice.’
a family member so no one is uninviting her, but it’s hard work!

RampantIvy · 10/06/2026 13:03

ReginaPhalange1989 · 10/06/2026 13:01

My B12 levels were normal

A lot of vegan milks / cheeses and yogurt have B12 added - must be more than sufficient as I was fine 🤘

Sorry. I have just edited my post to say about fortified foods. There is a podcast on the Vegan Society page about B12 following the death of a vegan who didn't consume any B12 at all.