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Teenager refusing to follow school rules on make-up and piercings

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IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 22:07

Any suggestions (if any) for a rebellious teenager who doesn’t care about school rules?

My DD is 16, very well behaved in other areas (doesn’t drink, vape, go out late). Generally respectful at home apart from some teenage strops.

She has a real disregard for school rules. They aren’t allowed to wear makeup or false eye lashes at school, today she was asked to remove both, and told the teacher she won’t be doing so, neither now or in the future. We’ve also had a conversation at home and she’s repeated the same to me. I’m getting daily emails from school about makeup and eye lashes, I email the school saying I will discuss this with her, but I am not sure what else I am able to do?

She’s now decided she’s getting a lip piercing, which is against school policy, but again says the same and that she doesn’t care what the school says or does. I’ve told her I do not sanction this and she’s making life incredibly difficult, it will likely result in detentions from the school and emails home, but she just says she isn’t bothered and wants to express her individuality.

Has anybody been through this with their teenager? My eldest is a boy and was fastidious about school rules so I haven’t experienced this before, I’m sure it is common.

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Pasra · 09/06/2026 19:03

Again people follow the school's dress code. There's a reason girls can't wear mini skirts for example.

GodItsHot · 09/06/2026 18:57

ThePM · 09/06/2026 18:41

Am I a boor who is determined that just everybody absolutely must know how, creative, artistic, interesting and demonstrative of my individuality I am? No, but carry on being you.

Have I raised teenagers? Yes, three girls, who go steady on the make-up, and more importantly for this situation, go to a school where makeup is permitted. Their conduct contract is very light in this area, but OP’s daughter’s is not. So she needs to (same as at work with regards whatever conduct standards are agreed) either toe the line or fuck-off.

Wow… toe the line or fuck off? You realise this is someone’s young daughter you’re speaking about?

ThePM · 09/06/2026 18:41

GodItsHot · 09/06/2026 14:56

And I bet you’re just buckets of fun at parties! Have you raised teenagers btw?

Am I a boor who is determined that just everybody absolutely must know how, creative, artistic, interesting and demonstrative of my individuality I am? No, but carry on being you.

Have I raised teenagers? Yes, three girls, who go steady on the make-up, and more importantly for this situation, go to a school where makeup is permitted. Their conduct contract is very light in this area, but OP’s daughter’s is not. So she needs to (same as at work with regards whatever conduct standards are agreed) either toe the line or fuck-off.

AlternateLook · 09/06/2026 18:13

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ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 09/06/2026 18:07

Maddy70 · 09/06/2026 17:26

Tell every piercer in town that you do not give permission for your child to be pierced.
Let her have limited makeup. Mascara lip balm etc
Parent her!

If she finds it elsewhere let her face the consequences and back the school up

This, tinted moisturiser, clear mascara and lip gloss or does it have to be full on insta glam with the brows lips and lashes?

Dorothyperky · 09/06/2026 18:04

@IcarusFallingDown I'm sorry OP you have people being rude regarding the private school option you chose.
Up thread I gave you some options for your DD to get some beauty experience.
My mother didn't want me to have a career in beauty. She only forgave me when I was appointed a Managing Director at 30 (the youngest in the cosmetic industry!). I have received salaries of £300k plus.
My DC had a mixture of private and state education. What you spend your money is your business.
For the poster who doesn't value the beauty industry, they're nuts. I have shares in a company I helped found. When it is sold later this year my cut is £3-5m. Not bad for a council house kid!

Fwiw you can't wax anyone under 18. It's an intimate service.

WonderingWanda · 09/06/2026 17:43

Imanautumn · 09/06/2026 08:22

I believe pointless rules that affect your bodily autonomy and integrity ought to be ignored yes. However I have no desire to raise obedient automatons with no ability to question things they don’t agree with.

Well as long as they are equally capable of accepting the consequences of not following rules. In this case the op's dd is likely to be excluded from her school and won't be able to continue her education with her friends.

I find it astonishing that so many parents fail to grasp the point of uniform rules which is twofold. Firstly, to create a level playing field so students don't have so much anxiety over their appearance e.g. Sasha is the coolest because she's got lip piercing but Millie is a loser because her Mum won't let her get one. And secondly, getting teenagers to follow the rules is useful, if you relax those rules they just find another one to break. There have always been uniform rules. When I was at school in the 90's you weren't allowed nose piercings, doc martens or dyed hair amongst many other things. If you did those things you got sanctions. It's the same now. The only difference is parents have decided not to back schools up and actively emcourage their offspring to break the rules which means that large numbers of students no longer feel they need to follow any rules e.g. do their work, be quiet so the teacher can teach, do their work.

Pasra · 09/06/2026 17:37

The school will punish her. That's enough

Nothingeverlastsforever · 09/06/2026 17:34

Maddy70 · 09/06/2026 17:26

Tell every piercer in town that you do not give permission for your child to be pierced.
Let her have limited makeup. Mascara lip balm etc
Parent her!

If she finds it elsewhere let her face the consequences and back the school up

Age of consent for piercing is 16.

Hellometime · 09/06/2026 17:30

TheOccupier · 09/06/2026 15:28

Vanity is not a Special Educational Need.

Op has said the DD is ND with self esteem and body confidence issues. Putting makeup on as a mask is very common with some teens with ND or body dysmorphia type issues. It’s far more complex than vanity.

Maddy70 · 09/06/2026 17:26

Tell every piercer in town that you do not give permission for your child to be pierced.
Let her have limited makeup. Mascara lip balm etc
Parent her!

If she finds it elsewhere let her face the consequences and back the school up

Hellometime · 09/06/2026 17:19

AHalfling · 09/06/2026 17:09

Struggling to imagine you would argue that sticking huge false lashes on your eyes is a sensory need. Quite the opposite I would say. I can't think of anything more unpleasant for a day at school

No didn’t mean lashes were sensory need just they will be used to dealing with SEN and adjustments.
Op has said the makeup is due to low confidence/body issues sort of like a mask.

squiddlysnot · 09/06/2026 17:17

IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 22:30

She has another year, she’s Year 10. It’s also a private school so they can technically just terminate the contract and ask her to leave (I don’t think they would but it is a worry).

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Why don't you tell her exactly this? "When you refuse to follow school rules it makes me anxious they might terminate the contract and kick you out. I worry about your future and it is difficult for me to concentrate on other things when I am this worried."

Confiscating her makeup or punishments will just make her double down and deteriorate your relationship with her.

AHalfling · 09/06/2026 17:09

Hellometime · 09/06/2026 14:57

Have you spoken to school from SEN perspective. If they are 40% SEN it’s not their first rodeo with a child wanting to bend uniform rules due to sensory issues etc.

Struggling to imagine you would argue that sticking huge false lashes on your eyes is a sensory need. Quite the opposite I would say. I can't think of anything more unpleasant for a day at school

AlternateLook · 09/06/2026 17:01

JohnnyFedora · 09/06/2026 15:56

😂

As if wearing fake lashes is a need 😂🤦🤦😂

The same as the lack of Sky TV and Netflix in their bedroom is child neglect to some on here...

flagpolesitta · 09/06/2026 16:51

Nothingeverlastsforever · 09/06/2026 12:23

I'd be quite happy to be written out of the will then. How dare grown ass adults try and bully and blackmail how other adults look. That's not normal

This, weird and controlling

JohnnyFedora · 09/06/2026 15:56

Hellometime · 09/06/2026 14:57

Have you spoken to school from SEN perspective. If they are 40% SEN it’s not their first rodeo with a child wanting to bend uniform rules due to sensory issues etc.

😂

As if wearing fake lashes is a need 😂🤦🤦😂

TheOccupier · 09/06/2026 15:28

Hellometime · 09/06/2026 14:57

Have you spoken to school from SEN perspective. If they are 40% SEN it’s not their first rodeo with a child wanting to bend uniform rules due to sensory issues etc.

Vanity is not a Special Educational Need.

AlternateLook · 09/06/2026 15:02

Hellometime · 09/06/2026 14:57

Have you spoken to school from SEN perspective. If they are 40% SEN it’s not their first rodeo with a child wanting to bend uniform rules due to sensory issues etc.

'first rodeo..' Deary me, we really are becoming the 51st State...😆

Hellometime · 09/06/2026 14:57

Have you spoken to school from SEN perspective. If they are 40% SEN it’s not their first rodeo with a child wanting to bend uniform rules due to sensory issues etc.

GodItsHot · 09/06/2026 14:56

ThePM · 09/06/2026 14:51

You’re the pigeon strutting around the chessboard now.

And I bet you’re just buckets of fun at parties! Have you raised teenagers btw?

AlternateLook · 09/06/2026 14:54

Nothingeverlastsforever · 09/06/2026 14:24

Spoken like the defensive bloke you are

No problem, Boudicca...

ThePM · 09/06/2026 14:51

GodItsHot · 09/06/2026 11:44

Nah, I just realise that teenagers will be teenagers, a lot of them crave individuality and freedom of expression and things like makeup and lashes are not a hill to die on. Unless the lashes are impeding her sight, it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference to their ability to learn. If it gives her a confidence boost then that’s a great bonus too.

If my makeup, clothes and piercings are acceptable in my workplace, where I hold a very senior level position, my gym etc then there shouldn’t be an issue with a 16 year old wearing something that makes her feel good and more confident.

I have teen DC of my own now who is very alternative as well, and I fully support them. As does the Irish secondary school they attend. English schools seem to have ridiculous, just for the sake of it, rules. And it seems to do absolutely no favours as Irish students have better educational outcomes 🤷‍♀️

But cheers for your snotty remark 😅

You’re the pigeon strutting around the chessboard now.

Nothingeverlastsforever · 09/06/2026 14:24

AlternateLook · 09/06/2026 13:15

Nervous about public speaking? I don't think so, sister. Just minutes before, she was loftily berating all males as misogynistic beasts utterly sure of her point of view.
Nice try, though....👏

Spoken like the defensive bloke you are

IcarusFallingDown · 09/06/2026 14:12

SpudGunToo · 09/06/2026 14:05

Are you deliberately misunderstanding?

We did not need to send our children to private school as we feel they are intelligent enough to succeed without it.

How can you possibly read that and think no wrote the opposite?

DH has an Oxford degree and a doctorate after attending a state comp, why would we want our children to go to a school with people like your DH who clearly needed to pay to try to succeed?

Lots of parents send their children to private schools because they have needs that can’t be met in the state system (autism, ADHD). My DDs school has 40% SEN students. We’re collectively saving the state sector a lot of money in support staff, EHCPs etc.

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