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Teenager refusing to follow school rules on make-up and piercings

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IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 22:07

Any suggestions (if any) for a rebellious teenager who doesn’t care about school rules?

My DD is 16, very well behaved in other areas (doesn’t drink, vape, go out late). Generally respectful at home apart from some teenage strops.

She has a real disregard for school rules. They aren’t allowed to wear makeup or false eye lashes at school, today she was asked to remove both, and told the teacher she won’t be doing so, neither now or in the future. We’ve also had a conversation at home and she’s repeated the same to me. I’m getting daily emails from school about makeup and eye lashes, I email the school saying I will discuss this with her, but I am not sure what else I am able to do?

She’s now decided she’s getting a lip piercing, which is against school policy, but again says the same and that she doesn’t care what the school says or does. I’ve told her I do not sanction this and she’s making life incredibly difficult, it will likely result in detentions from the school and emails home, but she just says she isn’t bothered and wants to express her individuality.

Has anybody been through this with their teenager? My eldest is a boy and was fastidious about school rules so I haven’t experienced this before, I’m sure it is common.

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ExOptimist · 08/06/2026 23:28

Honestly, just act like an adult and a parent. Tell her that the school rules are to be obeyed, whether she agrees with them or not. She may very well have jobs in the future in which there is a dress code, so she might as well get used to it.

If she won't comply tell there have to be sanctions and then follow through. Your choice what to do, grounding, confiscation of phone etc. My choice would be confiscation of make up all week, given back at weekends, until she agrees to comply.

She will hate you but that's par for the course at times.

I've had teenage daughters, now adult, so do know what they can be like..

Hellometime · 08/06/2026 23:28

Rather than wrecking her lashes with false lashes glued on, lash serum can have amazing results and would give her the look but not breaking rules. It might be a compromise.

Hellometime · 08/06/2026 23:26

IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 23:11

I was the same (though DD doesn’t know this) when I was at school, I also suspect I am ND, I think ADHD / PDA. I too had self-esteem issues and no way was I going without my makeup and hair, ironically I don’t wear any makeup these days just skin care! I was happy at school, just had a similar attitude to DD that it was all ridiculous and didn’t affect my learning or the learning of others, so I wasn’t going to follow their silly rules. To be clear DD doesn’t know this about me!

Maybe speak to her frankly about your experience. She’s can think the rules are petty but if she wants to go there she needs to just put up with it (can wear makeup and lashes outside school) agree she can have piercing June 27 etc.
Is there a school council or any campaigning to channel her rebellion to. I went that route. My dd was involved in a campaign about pe kit yr11. I think some girls naturally outgrow school environment and are ready to move on.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 08/06/2026 23:26

Franjipanl8r · 08/06/2026 23:11

Some of these comments are bonkers. No child NEEDS to wear false eyelashes to express themselves! If she wants to stick plastic fake lashes onto her face she can do it at the weekend. You need to parent her and nip this in the bud. The school will be more pissed off with you than her.

This, it’s a very fragile, damaged ego to be stamping your foot with the “yeah but I want this!!! Im
one oF the vulnerable ones!!”

AHalfling · 08/06/2026 23:25

IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 23:22

Nothing would have worked with me to be honest, that’s why I’m struggling so much to know what the right course of action is. My parents took my makeup away and I refused to go to school at all as I didn’t want my peers seeing me without makeup.

What is her view? If she wants to leave at 16 with qualifications she kind of has to stay there as she's already been held back a year. So what is her priority?

Ghht · 08/06/2026 23:24

IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 23:11

I was the same (though DD doesn’t know this) when I was at school, I also suspect I am ND, I think ADHD / PDA. I too had self-esteem issues and no way was I going without my makeup and hair, ironically I don’t wear any makeup these days just skin care! I was happy at school, just had a similar attitude to DD that it was all ridiculous and didn’t affect my learning or the learning of others, so I wasn’t going to follow their silly rules. To be clear DD doesn’t know this about me!

Which is exactly why it’s ridiculous that schools in this country prioritise a child’s presentation over their education. Will she really get expelled for wearing fake eyelashes?? Seriously…

IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 23:22

SleepingStandingUp · 08/06/2026 23:21

so what are the consequences from school? is she getting detention? other consequences?
if she isn't, what consequences are you giving her?

I can understand you not wanting to remove all her stuff if it's tied in with her self esteem issues but you're wanting her to change just cos you've asked nicely, and that isn't happening so what are the consequences?

does she know she's at risk of expulsion?

what would have worked with you At that age?

Nothing would have worked with me to be honest, that’s why I’m struggling so much to know what the right course of action is. My parents took my makeup away and I refused to go to school at all as I didn’t want my peers seeing me without makeup.

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redange · 08/06/2026 23:21

Have to leave school at 16 to enter College or non 'Strict' Formal Sixth Form

SleepingStandingUp · 08/06/2026 23:21

so what are the consequences from school? is she getting detention? other consequences?
if she isn't, what consequences are you giving her?

I can understand you not wanting to remove all her stuff if it's tied in with her self esteem issues but you're wanting her to change just cos you've asked nicely, and that isn't happening so what are the consequences?

does she know she's at risk of expulsion?

what would have worked with you At that age?

redange · 08/06/2026 23:20

Speaking as someone who is ND and ND son is transferring to a Private School to redo year 10 in September 16 is very young for any ND Child. She is not ready for College nor to leave school. It is a crying shame that most ND children after leave school at 16 and enter College. A Strict School Sixth form is Ok i suppose but really Socially ND children even if Academically Bright should be held back a year. She needs to be told that she is a year 10 Pupil and to behave like one or suffer consequences at school and home. This also with you given her support for her Neurodiversity.

Franpie · 08/06/2026 23:17

I have had similar with my DD. Not facial piercings but regular sanctions for make-up, uniform and jewellery. She doesn’t care about rules that she doesn’t think are important.

She gets all her work done and is polite etc but as far as she’s concerned, she’ll wear what she wants. The only teachers she listens to are the sports coaches as they’ll prevent her playing a match if she has incorrect kit or jewellery.

To be honest, I gave up long ago. I responded to an email from the school telling them to stop emailing me about these infringements. It is their rules and it’s up to them to enforce them, not me. I support any sanction they want to dish out but I’m not getting involved beyond that. I don’t here from them now.

AHalfling · 08/06/2026 23:14

IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 23:11

I was the same (though DD doesn’t know this) when I was at school, I also suspect I am ND, I think ADHD / PDA. I too had self-esteem issues and no way was I going without my makeup and hair, ironically I don’t wear any makeup these days just skin care! I was happy at school, just had a similar attitude to DD that it was all ridiculous and didn’t affect my learning or the learning of others, so I wasn’t going to follow their silly rules. To be clear DD doesn’t know this about me!

Unfortunately she's not really got the option of repeating the year somewhere else so she's going to have to follow their "silly" rules.

Hellometime · 08/06/2026 23:14

Colleges will take yp with no GCSEs. Can take Maths and English GCSEs there.
It makes sense to stay at current school but if she’s going to spend yr11 suspended or expelled for repeated violation of uniform code then she’s not getting her GCSEs at that school in any event.
Does she realise that’s a possibility?

LoftyCoralBird · 08/06/2026 23:13

Firstly Is she happy there?

Personally I’d ask her to do more natural makeup for the rest of year 10/11. Buy her a new set of natural makeup of her choosing. If the school has issues you can just chat about these at home, so she knows the consequences at school. I would let the school put the boundaries in and just keep telling them you’ve spoken to her but she’s very set on wearing makeup as it helps her confidence. Don’t invest too much thought or time into pedantic school rules.

IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 23:11

Hellometime · 08/06/2026 23:08

It may be outside OP’s control though. If the DD won’t attend without her makeup/lashes or gets a piercing and school suspends or expels her the dd will be needing to go to college anyway. Perhaps better to start yr12 at college in September rather than get expelled.
She can disagree with the petty rules put a private school is like a club with its own rules. If she wants the perks of being in the club so small classes, things she’s looking forward to in yr11 like prom then she needs to just get her head down for 12 months.
I agree she doesn’t sound particularly happy there.

I was the same (though DD doesn’t know this) when I was at school, I also suspect I am ND, I think ADHD / PDA. I too had self-esteem issues and no way was I going without my makeup and hair, ironically I don’t wear any makeup these days just skin care! I was happy at school, just had a similar attitude to DD that it was all ridiculous and didn’t affect my learning or the learning of others, so I wasn’t going to follow their silly rules. To be clear DD doesn’t know this about me!

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Franjipanl8r · 08/06/2026 23:11

Some of these comments are bonkers. No child NEEDS to wear false eyelashes to express themselves! If she wants to stick plastic fake lashes onto her face she can do it at the weekend. You need to parent her and nip this in the bud. The school will be more pissed off with you than her.

Besidemyselfwithworry · 08/06/2026 23:11

Dollymylove · 08/06/2026 22:36

Hopefully she will have learnt by the time she starts applying for jobs that there are rules to be observed. Otherwise she wont get very far in life

Exactly this x

AHalfling · 08/06/2026 23:09

Hellometime · 08/06/2026 23:08

It may be outside OP’s control though. If the DD won’t attend without her makeup/lashes or gets a piercing and school suspends or expels her the dd will be needing to go to college anyway. Perhaps better to start yr12 at college in September rather than get expelled.
She can disagree with the petty rules put a private school is like a club with its own rules. If she wants the perks of being in the club so small classes, things she’s looking forward to in yr11 like prom then she needs to just get her head down for 12 months.
I agree she doesn’t sound particularly happy there.

How can she start year 12 in September if she doesn't have any GCSES?

IcarusFallingDown · 08/06/2026 23:08

BeNoisyPeachOrca · 08/06/2026 22:59

The OP is not going to let her daughter leave the school. That is clear from the tone of her posts.

It doesn’t make sense for her to leave the school when she has one year left and hasn’t sat any of her GCSEs yet?

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AHalfling · 08/06/2026 23:08

Kokonimater · 08/06/2026 22:58

The poor girl. She just wants to assert her individuality and when she does she feels better about herself. The stupid school rules. It makes no difference to her education if she’s wearing eyelashes or not.
maybe she needs to change schools.
I would leave her to it. Let her fight her own battles. You cannot control her.
let the school deal with it.
if they expel her she can go to a college where she’s free to be herself

Shed surely have to get some GCSES before she can go to college. And as she's already a year behind she's going to feel incredibly old for her age if she has to resit year 10 somewhere else. In fact I don't even know if thats possible? Maybe at an online school.

@IcarusFallingDown she needs to understand that unless she doesn't want to finish 6th form till she's 20 she's going to have to suck up the rules for the next 12 months

Hellometime · 08/06/2026 23:08

It may be outside OP’s control though. If the DD won’t attend without her makeup/lashes or gets a piercing and school suspends or expels her the dd will be needing to go to college anyway. Perhaps better to start yr12 at college in September rather than get expelled.
She can disagree with the petty rules put a private school is like a club with its own rules. If she wants the perks of being in the club so small classes, things she’s looking forward to in yr11 like prom then she needs to just get her head down for 12 months.
I agree she doesn’t sound particularly happy there.

AHalfling · 08/06/2026 23:06

SALaw · 08/06/2026 22:51

Why are these against school rules though? Why does it have any bearing on ability or readiness to learn? People in professional jobs don’t these days can have piercings, tattoos, non natural hair colour etc, so why are there schools with archaic rules?

My private school dictated everything we wore, down to coat, shoes, bags, hats and underwear . Bright red gym knickers. I am still traumatised Grin

Their school, their rules.

sillysmiles · 08/06/2026 23:03

SALaw · 08/06/2026 22:51

Why are these against school rules though? Why does it have any bearing on ability or readiness to learn? People in professional jobs don’t these days can have piercings, tattoos, non natural hair colour etc, so why are there schools with archaic rules?

Because as a private school they get to choose the rules that are important to them and the image they wish to convey.

In signing up you agree to those.

BeNoisyPeachOrca · 08/06/2026 22:59

Hellometime · 08/06/2026 22:57

If she’s generally happy there she’ll need to suck it up for 12 months.
If she’s going to go there for yr11 then she needs to abide by rules. If not then you’ll save your money and she can join college in September.
If she wants the nice advantages of private then she needs to put up with their rules. She’s 16 old enough to realise she’s at risk of being expelled and impact on her future plans.

The OP is not going to let her daughter leave the school. That is clear from the tone of her posts.

Delphiniumandlupins · 08/06/2026 22:59

She's at the wrong school if expressing herself is important. So have a discussion about what options there are. Does she want to carry on, probably receiving detentions and then isolation and ultimately expulsion? This will be a waste of time (and money) and stressful for her, you and the school. She could change schools (go to college?) for next year but that might be difficult half way through her GCSEs. You can empathise with her point of view without supporting it.