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I don’t know what to do.

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Howisthisok1 · 08/06/2026 21:06

i work as a TA in an inner city primary school. Three weeks ago, the children went on a residential to Wales. I opted not to go. A few days ago, one of the girls told me she’d left her accommodation on one of the nights and slept elsewhere with another group. I reported this. Her parents were called in.

The following day she told me she was angry, because another girl had done the same but would not be getting into trouble. I told her she should report the other girl. She then told me that three of them had gone to the DSL to report it and were told ‘keep this to yourselves, you are too late to report it - stop throwing others under the bus.

AIBU to think this is totally wrong and you never tell children to keep quiet about safeguarding?

Edited to add he did tell the girl she could bring it up at her forthcoming meeting but that he did not wish to be involved.

OP posts:
captainflash · 10/06/2026 09:37

Harrumphhhh · 10/06/2026 09:20

1 - join a union! They won’t be able to help you with this issue, but it’s absolutely bonkers to work in a school and not be a member.

2 - look for the school whistleblowing policy. It probably involves speaking to the chair of governors.

3 - LADO for advice. It’s not for any of us to decide if this is a safeguarding concern, but it is the LADO’s actual role.

I’m a long time HT and DSL.
This post nails it.

Absolutely a LADO issue and why I spend my time writing whistleblowing policies. There should be a safeguarding governor too.

Is it an academy or LA school? That could make a difference.

Harrumphhhh · 10/06/2026 09:20

1 - join a union! They won’t be able to help you with this issue, but it’s absolutely bonkers to work in a school and not be a member.

2 - look for the school whistleblowing policy. It probably involves speaking to the chair of governors.

3 - LADO for advice. It’s not for any of us to decide if this is a safeguarding concern, but it is the LADO’s actual role.

Snaletrale · 10/06/2026 09:12

Yes, join a union today.

Quitelikeit · 10/06/2026 09:06

Seriously you should not risk your job over this

The SLT are aware and it is on them to take action

You wanting to take action based on a theory that something may happen to these children in the future is a bit strange

Children do this type of thing - and you said there’s no suspicion they were doing anything inappropriate so what might end up happening is the school would simply stop these trips moving forward

Simply because a few kids left their tent - surely the parents would be raising this kid f they felt it was an issue

Sassylovesbooks · 10/06/2026 08:59

I work in a school and no DSL or H/T should be saying that an incident is 'too late to report'. We are all repeatedly told that 'safeguarding is everyone's responsibility'. Which is absolutely true, it is.

My guess is that you are spot on with your thought process. The DSL was the person in charge on the trip, and the responsibility would fall squarely on his shoulders. He doesn't want a fuss caused because, he would get into trouble. The H/T doesn't want a fuss caused either, because questions would be asked, and they could equally be in trouble.

Do you have a Whistleblowing policy? If you are in a Union, then I'd ask for advice. If not, look at the schools Whistleblowing policy.

Basilplants · 10/06/2026 08:54

OP I’m so shocked at some of the awful responses you’re getting, totally missing the point and minimising the situation.

You are absolutely right to take this further,

Especially if the DSL has previous form for lying/spiteful behaviour: they should not be the DSL!

Thank goodness for decent people like you doing the right thing

Basilplants · 10/06/2026 08:54

OP I’m so shocked at some of the awful responses you’re getting, totally missing the point and minimising the situation.

You are absolutely right to take this further,

Especially if the DSL has previous form for lying/spiteful behaviour: they should not be the DSL!

Thank goodness for decent people like you doing the right thing

Viviennemary · 10/06/2026 08:51

Totaldramallama · 10/06/2026 07:37

Call the lado because the girls moved around to their friends glamping pods? Doesn't sound like any unsavoury adults were involved and more like silliness from a group of young girls. I'm struggling to see the safeguarding issue here

I agree. The OP is only a TA and wasn't even on the trip. As long as her reporting to the Head is recorded. How can this be prevented. It cant be. Stop any trips of this kind in case a child decides to visit friends in another tent?

Matronic6 · 10/06/2026 08:37

You cannot expect a staff member to stay up all night on a residential. I've done many myself and kids get out of bed to go to the toilet during night etc. The kids are responsible for their own actions. They are right that there is very little that can be done about that now. The trip is over it was silly behaviour, there literally is nothing to be done about it as the trip is over. They didn't do anything kids haven't done on pretty much every residential.

Your issue is now with the teachers conduct and speculating about something that has not happened.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 10/06/2026 08:36

Totaldramallama · 10/06/2026 08:23

Surely you should be appalled at your own child's behaviour if they did this, and anyway, is it really that big a deal? Sneaking in to friends tents on a camping trip if a contained field of other kids and teachers? Heck of a lot of drama on this thread

You have misunderstood my post.

SylvanMoon · 10/06/2026 08:34

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 00:33

I am not in a union.

Then you should join one immediately and get union support for this.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/06/2026 08:34

Howisthisok1 · 09/06/2026 05:47

This is my point. I think he wants it kept quiet because he was in charge of the trip and was now faced with yet another issue of kids walking round a field unsupervised during the night. I just don’t see how it’s ever ok to tell kids to keep secrets. It goes against all our training. What do I do next. I told H/T and she backed him.

Of course they’re trying to cover their backs to keep their jobs. Happens all over the place.

How much do you want to keep your job would be my question to you?

Melarus · 10/06/2026 08:25

I don't work in safeguarding so perhaps the nuances are passing me by. But it seems completely mad to me, to risk your job because there was a situation where no one was hurt, but it was dealt with in such a way that, if a completely different situation should arise in future, it might be dealt with in a way that wasn't ideal.

Totaldramallama · 10/06/2026 08:23

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 10/06/2026 08:21

As someone with a Y6 Gdd who is currently on such a school trip in Wales, I must say I’m appalled that this was ever allowed, and is now being swept under the carpet.

Surely you should be appalled at your own child's behaviour if they did this, and anyway, is it really that big a deal? Sneaking in to friends tents on a camping trip if a contained field of other kids and teachers? Heck of a lot of drama on this thread

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 10/06/2026 08:21

As someone with a Y6 Gdd who is currently on such a school trip in Wales, I must say I’m appalled that this was ever allowed, and is now being swept under the carpet.

Totaldramallama · 10/06/2026 07:59

Isabella70 · 10/06/2026 07:49

The safeguarding issue is that the girls are being told by the adult in charge to keep quiet about it.

Yes, because the only outcome is they get in to trouble for leaving the tent but it is now after the fact, nobody to injured or came to any harm and they school can take this situation on board for next year's trip

Howmanymoredays · 10/06/2026 07:56

Why would leaving their tent during the night be a safeguarding issue? Presumably they were also allowed to leave them to go to the toilet?
As long as no-one left the campsite entirely, can't really see what the issue was in the first place, or why anything needed reporting.

MojoMoon · 10/06/2026 07:54

I agree his response to them saying don't throw other people under the bus is suboptimal given it could be seen by a child as a reason to never report anything more serious.

But I am struggling to get my head round why the child leaving a glamping pod to pop to another child's pod is considered so serious and what you think the staff should have done instead to prevent this

Do you think a teacher should be awake all night monitoring a field in case a child exits a pod? How would this work if they then need to supervise the children during the day as well or do you think there should be double the number of staff?

Isabella70 · 10/06/2026 07:49

Totaldramallama · 10/06/2026 07:37

Call the lado because the girls moved around to their friends glamping pods? Doesn't sound like any unsavoury adults were involved and more like silliness from a group of young girls. I'm struggling to see the safeguarding issue here

The safeguarding issue is that the girls are being told by the adult in charge to keep quiet about it.

tamade · 10/06/2026 07:44

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 00:08

i think some people are missing my point. I don’t care that one girl got into trouble and one didn’t. I just care that he basically told three girls they were too late to report something and that they should keep quiet and not throw someone under the bus. Supposing they had reported being sexually abused on the residential and he’d told them to keep quiet. He’s one of my bosses and has form for lying after previously covering up another residential safeguarding three years ago. He made the life hell of the person who reported him and she had to leave.

Well there is your answer. If you want to be forced out of your job but be 'in the right' go ahead but make sure your union is behind you and record everything

Totaldramallama · 10/06/2026 07:44

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 06:29

Scenario - A girl is inappropriately touched - keeps it to herself as that’s what she was told to do last time. The responsibility has been put onto her to keep the other child out of trouble. Whilst she herself had a big dressing down and parents brought into school. Her dad is a police officer. They want to keep the second incident quiet because it looks bad.

You are comparing CSA to a group of girls being silly at a camping trip. One is illegal and a massive safeguarding issue, one is a behaviour issue. I presume they were told to keep quiet because the only outcome is they get in to trouble. For all you know, the HT and DSL have taken this on as learning for the next trip, but you wouldn't be privy to that as you are no way involved

Meowee · 10/06/2026 07:38

Your school should have a whistle blowing policy which should protect you whilst you report, the DSL telling students to keep things to themselves is a serious issue. If this does blow up you could be investigated as you also knew and didn't act on information. It's a tricky place to be when colleagues are involved but children must come first. Hope it all gets sorted x

Totaldramallama · 10/06/2026 07:37

Carryitjoyfully · 08/06/2026 23:43

I haven't read the comments. Call the Lado. This is serious.

Call the lado because the girls moved around to their friends glamping pods? Doesn't sound like any unsavoury adults were involved and more like silliness from a group of young girls. I'm struggling to see the safeguarding issue here

Globules · 10/06/2026 07:25

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 06:20

I know and I am absolutely petrified. The last person who spoke up had to leave. She could afford to leave. I am a single mum of three children but I know it’s my duty. So many posters telling me I am being ridiculous and it isn’t report worthy. I feel so confused.

Are there other jobs in the area? TA jobs here are quite common now. I've got 2 going at my school.

Like I said much earlier up the thread, your duty of care means you report to the LADO and chair of governors. SLT and DSL of several years speaking here.

And I'm sorry this has fallen on shoulders to report your colleagues for their poor practice. You know you're doing the right thing.

Moonnstarz · 10/06/2026 07:22

I don't know what you want to achieve from repeating the same points.
I have said twice record your own CPOMS so you have a written record of what was said (you are either ignoring my comment on this as you don't want to do this, or maybe you have already done it so could perhaps confirm that you have done so).
As you then say that the DSL is a concern, you need to do as others say and report higher up - LADO.
Others have also suggested that there should be more than one person in charge of safeguarding in the school so have you spoken to them?

You seem to be going round in circles. Either you are concerned enough to formally report it or not.

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