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Howisthisok1 · 08/06/2026 21:06

i work as a TA in an inner city primary school. Three weeks ago, the children went on a residential to Wales. I opted not to go. A few days ago, one of the girls told me she’d left her accommodation on one of the nights and slept elsewhere with another group. I reported this. Her parents were called in.

The following day she told me she was angry, because another girl had done the same but would not be getting into trouble. I told her she should report the other girl. She then told me that three of them had gone to the DSL to report it and were told ‘keep this to yourselves, you are too late to report it - stop throwing others under the bus.

AIBU to think this is totally wrong and you never tell children to keep quiet about safeguarding?

Edited to add he did tell the girl she could bring it up at her forthcoming meeting but that he did not wish to be involved.

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Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 21:25

IcyRubyHiker · 10/06/2026 19:50

With all due respect, if this all comes out later down the line that OP has not reported a safeguarding concern that was disclosed directly to her, then she won’t have a job anyway. And it will be very difficult for her to find another one in a school, ever again. It is really serious to not uphold safeguarding procedures, and to actively choose not to report disclosures. It is a huge breach of duty of care.

I reported within the hour to HT. she backed the DSL.

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ButcherFaker · 10/06/2026 19:52

IcyRubyHiker · 10/06/2026 19:50

With all due respect, if this all comes out later down the line that OP has not reported a safeguarding concern that was disclosed directly to her, then she won’t have a job anyway. And it will be very difficult for her to find another one in a school, ever again. It is really serious to not uphold safeguarding procedures, and to actively choose not to report disclosures. It is a huge breach of duty of care.

Don’t be ridiculous, she is a TA who has reported it to the HT and the SLT. I think that is due diligence done on her part.

IcyRubyHiker · 10/06/2026 19:50

ButcherFaker · 10/06/2026 19:26

OP, you really need to think of yourself and your family now. If you go above the HT and the SLT then it is going to end badly for you, however well intentioned and principled you are. Don’t risk your own financial stability on the advice of strangers on the internet

With all due respect, if this all comes out later down the line that OP has not reported a safeguarding concern that was disclosed directly to her, then she won’t have a job anyway. And it will be very difficult for her to find another one in a school, ever again. It is really serious to not uphold safeguarding procedures, and to actively choose not to report disclosures. It is a huge breach of duty of care.

IcyRubyHiker · 10/06/2026 19:47

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 18:42

I have been in turmoil because 50% of people on here are saying it’s ridiculous to report and others are saying it’s very serious. I have reported to head and not yet put cpoms on as she told me she would speak to those involved but hasn’t done so. I do not want to lose my job over nothing (as most people are implying) but also do not want this to get ignored if it is very serious . I think it is serious and DSL has form for lying/covering up but I am absolutely terrified as lady person who complained had to leave the school

It all sounds like a dreadful situation. I really feel for you.

I can’t believe that it’s known for a DSL to ‘have form’ for lying and covering up. That is absolutely awful and desperately worrying for the children in that school.

I’ve seen that a kind HT / DSL have offered for you to DM on here, I really hope they can offer some valuable guidance and clear steps on why to do next. I’m sure they will.

Just as an aside, I would also perhaps look for another job.. I know it sounds like personal life is quite tricky at the moment but I couldn’t work in a school where I couldn’t do what was required of me morally and professionally for fear of losing my job. That’s truly dreadful, and I’m so sorry that is the position you are in.

ButcherFaker · 10/06/2026 19:26

OP, you really need to think of yourself and your family now. If you go above the HT and the SLT then it is going to end badly for you, however well intentioned and principled you are. Don’t risk your own financial stability on the advice of strangers on the internet

captainflash · 10/06/2026 19:01

Click on the three little dots at the top right corner and look for PM.
It is anonymous

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 18:58

captainflash · 10/06/2026 18:45

OP- are you an LA or academy school? I’ve asked this a couple of times.
I am a long-standing HT and DSL. Feel free to DM me

How do I DM anonymously please?

academy

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captainflash · 10/06/2026 18:45

OP- are you an LA or academy school? I’ve asked this a couple of times.
I am a long-standing HT and DSL. Feel free to DM me

Merryoldgoat · 10/06/2026 18:45

I work in a school. If the DSL tried to cover up a safeguarding issue and was supported by the head of report to both The Chair of Governors and LADO.

They are acting in they’re best interests not the children and this is a significant safeguarding breach.

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 18:42

Moonnstarz · 10/06/2026 07:22

I don't know what you want to achieve from repeating the same points.
I have said twice record your own CPOMS so you have a written record of what was said (you are either ignoring my comment on this as you don't want to do this, or maybe you have already done it so could perhaps confirm that you have done so).
As you then say that the DSL is a concern, you need to do as others say and report higher up - LADO.
Others have also suggested that there should be more than one person in charge of safeguarding in the school so have you spoken to them?

You seem to be going round in circles. Either you are concerned enough to formally report it or not.

I have been in turmoil because 50% of people on here are saying it’s ridiculous to report and others are saying it’s very serious. I have reported to head and not yet put cpoms on as she told me she would speak to those involved but hasn’t done so. I do not want to lose my job over nothing (as most people are implying) but also do not want this to get ignored if it is very serious . I think it is serious and DSL has form for lying/covering up but I am absolutely terrified as lady person who complained had to leave the school

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Lostallhistory · 10/06/2026 18:37

How awful that by doing the right thing puts your job in jeopardy.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/06/2026 18:19

I am fighting with big wigs in an academy right now and I’m telling you to protect your job at all costs. If you think you have done everything your job requires you to do and no one has been hurt then leave it.

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 18:14

LizandDerekGoals · 10/06/2026 06:39

Op you have been advised repeatedly to contact the LADO but have not engaged with that suggestion once. That is the next and only course of action.

I am a recently divorced 35 year old with three kids and no money. I desperately need this job. I posted here because my head is all over the place. I expected all posts to say I was doing the right thing but most are almost laughing and saying it’s not report worthy and ridiculous. I actually don’t even know what to believe anymore.

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Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 17:59

IcyRubyHiker · 10/06/2026 06:37

Is this what happened?! Please report this in line with your schools procedures for safeguarding / whistle blowing. The DSL isn’t fit for purpose.

I find this deeply concerning and I have had regular and updated safeguarding training.

Edited

No one was touched! Everyone is saying the DSL did nothing wrong in telling the girls to keep quiet. I am giving a hypothetical scenario by saying what if they were touched and kept it quiet.

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IcyRubyHiker · 10/06/2026 16:11

The more troubling part is the way it’s already been handled by the DSL at school. You don’t sound like you are safeguarding trained. So perhaps not best for you to comment with general opinions? The safeguarding lead in a school is not following policy which is extremely troubling in an educational setting.

ButcherFaker · 10/06/2026 15:32

IcyRubyHiker · 10/06/2026 13:45

You seriously need to act on this today. The delay in your reporting it is already really bad. I know it is really stressful but you have got to do the right thing.

Just Imagine your daughter had told a staff member at school something troubling, and no one else knew and that member of staff did nothing else with the knowledge. That’s dreadful.

You know what you have to do but you’re just avoiding it and trying to rationalise it’s ok to yourself because it is very difficult to do.

I don’t think that kids milling about at night on a school trip is troubling. I’m not sure why the kids owned up to it in the first place as no harm came to them

IcyRubyHiker · 10/06/2026 13:45

You seriously need to act on this today. The delay in your reporting it is already really bad. I know it is really stressful but you have got to do the right thing.

Just Imagine your daughter had told a staff member at school something troubling, and no one else knew and that member of staff did nothing else with the knowledge. That’s dreadful.

You know what you have to do but you’re just avoiding it and trying to rationalise it’s ok to yourself because it is very difficult to do.

MiddleLaneLife · 10/06/2026 11:16

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 06:20

I know and I am absolutely petrified. The last person who spoke up had to leave. She could afford to leave. I am a single mum of three children but I know it’s my duty. So many posters telling me I am being ridiculous and it isn’t report worthy. I feel so confused.

Do you know for an actual fact that the DSL told the girl she’s too late to report it, or has you’ve just been told this by the child?

He could have said, yes, that’s all been dealt with already.

Unless you have actual facts from the adults you work with, DSL and H/T then there is nothing to report.

trythisforsize · 10/06/2026 10:58

blackpooolrock · 10/06/2026 10:15

I think its complete overkill that because people were out their tent/pod its classed as a safeguarding issue. No wonder the world is going to hell in a handbasket.

The issue isn't the small incident that happened. The issue is that a child was told to keep it to themselves and the incident was not noted down at all. Every incident can be noted down - it's not difficult.

If it later transpired that one of these children was groped in a tent they weren't supposed to be in - the original notes of children swapping tents (as minor as this sounds) would be vital.

blackpooolrock · 10/06/2026 10:15

I think its complete overkill that because people were out their tent/pod its classed as a safeguarding issue. No wonder the world is going to hell in a handbasket.

captainflash · 10/06/2026 10:13

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/06/2026 10:07

She will literally get managed out if she does this.

That’s why I asked if LA or academy. The LADO works for the LA, same as OP. Whistleblowing policies exist to protect this. The LA is the ultimate employer, not the school itself.
An academy is harder for protection

captainflash · 10/06/2026 10:10

@Samysungy the LADO would look into that. IMO it’s the safeguarding culture that needs to be challenged.
The original incident may well have been minor (for all any of us know) and children pushing boundaries on residentials is common place. However, my real issue here is that DSL and HT aren’t creating a conducive safeguarding environment or following anything from KCSIE.
It‘a their behaviour that’s concerning OP (and others) not necessarily the children.
They are letting safeguarding incidents happen, and wanting them not to be mentioned, which is a massive breach of their professional duty. Hence the need for the LADO- that’s exactly their job

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/06/2026 10:07

trythisforsize · 10/06/2026 09:53

If you suspect misconduct from another colleague around child safeguarding you need to report it yourself to the LADO.
DSL's are not above this rule.
You need to report the DSL to the LADO if you feel they have put children at risk.
It's your duty of care to report if you feel the DSL is not doing their job properly.

She will literally get managed out if she does this.

Samysungy · 10/06/2026 09:59

DangoDays · 10/06/2026 05:19

@samysungy typically you go to the LADO as the next step if concern is about the head. You can’t go to DDSL. It has to keep escalating.

Does sound like some covering of backs and unfair on the child being punished.

Anecdotally, we might all think that it seems over the top based on our own feelings/experiences of sneaking about on school trips. However, we didn’t know the context e.g location, SEND need, proximity, risk assessments etc. there might be an ill established culture around safeguarding procedures. All of which is important to challenge. 9/10 safeguarding follow up may be something of nothing. I get that it may feel extra. But that’s safeguarding, to protect against no regrets.

But you go to the LADO for the staff.

The original report has not been dealt with and will not get dealt with if you just go to the LADO.

The safeguarding of the children needs reporting. You can go to the DDSL. They have a duty to deal with the child incident and the staff incident.

trythisforsize · 10/06/2026 09:53

Howisthisok1 · 10/06/2026 06:16

Totally missing the point. That being a DSL should NEVER tell a child they have missed an opportunity to report something. What about if she is assaulted in the future and keeps it to herself as she was told last time! Shocking thing to tell a child.

If you suspect misconduct from another colleague around child safeguarding you need to report it yourself to the LADO.
DSL's are not above this rule.
You need to report the DSL to the LADO if you feel they have put children at risk.
It's your duty of care to report if you feel the DSL is not doing their job properly.

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