Is it too late to turn the uk around?

Oh, there's always the same thing underlying the nostalgia fetish. No, OP, you won't ever be 25 again. Sorry. But you getting old hasn't actually made the whole world miserable and scary, I'm sorry it feels that way to you.

It’s definitely not too late to turn it around, Reform had its 15 minutes of fame in the local elections, it’s basically peaked too soon and people
dont seriously think Reform would
make a good government. Reform is now losing traction and engagement despite intense engagement farming, and Restore isn’t mopping up the racist vote so much as splitting it. The thing is, Reform politics rely on people being thick as mince, truly prejudiced, and very unkind. And that, mercifully, only really
applies to a small proportion of the UK population.

Who is taking moral guidance from him? I saw this post about multiculturalism and saw another post about grief and bereavement and agreed and found comfort( on the bereavement post) with what he said. You don’t get to take the moral high ground and police what other people have found that has resonated and helped them.

and pah haha, your second paragraph I beg to differ

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So you don’t even live here?

Where are you getting your information from?

I refuse to believe that it's too far gone as I'm stuck here, and anyway I'm not sure you can ever say that change is not possible. Of course it is possible. Gladstone, David Lloyd George and Clement Attlee were all part of one hell of a change away from rotten boroughs in the first place, so we even have road maps.

The question is do we have any leaders who have any motivation or anyone here who cares to help our people instead of the intercontinental jetset of billionaires.

Before when?
Give us a date to work with OP.

I'm old. Happy to compare the UK today with another day in the last 60 years

It'll only be a bit of anecdata, but can't see you're going to get, or want, much from this thread.

I wouldn't be taking any moral guidance from the likes of Jimmy Carr - the tax dodging so called comedian. He's part of the problem. What he did might have been legal at the time but was most definitely immoral.

And nobody is afraid of British culture. That's just more Great Replacement Conspiracy bollocks. The issue is that too many people suffer from toxic nostalgia and are always looking back to the mythical 'good old days' whilst refusing to see anything positive in what has changed in their lifetime.

I sometimes feel I must live in a different version of the UK. Yes it's tough at the moment, the NHS is on its knees, things seem to cost a fortune etc but everyone I know seems to be just getting on with life, meeting up with eachother, enjoying themselves. This division is exaggerated by the media and social.media, most people just want to get on with life. It doesn't seem any worse then it did at any other time. I grew up with the miners strike, the threat of the ira, the threat of nuclear war etc.

There’s an Instagram or facebook post. Will see if I can find it

OoooOoooooh, I heard it from Jimmy Carr actually and agree with a lot of what he says

Ooooh, someone has been listening to the genteel wing of the far right...

I think the UK has an awful lot of problems right now and the government seems to be burying it's head in the sand a bit over things. It's going to reach a tipping point soon with some bad consequences to come. It's not too late to make changes but needs cross party action.

You mean like... when men could beat their wives legally (1940s?) & women had to quit their jobs if they got married (1950s)? Or you mean like when central heating was unusual (1960s?)? Or when people let their kids get very ill bcz they couldn't afford to see a doctor (1930s?)? Or when Little Britain was considered funny and not gross (2000s)? Did you live thru constant fear of nuclear annilihation (1970s?). Or maybe when football hooliganism was rife (1980s?). How about Austerity (2010s), did you enjoy that, OP?

I mean, what's your decade, OP, when do you hark back to?

I humbly submit that all you miss is your ignorance of the annoying problems that were there in every era. There is a solution. You turn off the news, and you focus on what makes your local place the best place you can make it. With kindness, patience and helpfulness. You can do that today. Start Now. x

Which era, century?

I hope we can turn round the idiots voting Reform. That's the only thing that needs turning round. The rest will improve with time and perseverance and getting that twat out the white house.

Sorry. Euro here. You fucked up beyond all conceivable fuck-ups almost exactly ten years ago, and it is really hard to see how you could ever fix it.

You are thinking of Scotland going south and Cornwall going North or more somehing like the Rapture?

The UK is divided. There is so much hatred between groups. Too many oikophobes.

edited for typo

Is this a sort of "MUKGA" thing? Or something geographical? I mean, I know poles shift and stuff, but I don't think we can control that. ..

No.
A couple of million idiots voting for Reform. And we can make it a whole lot worse....sadly