To wonder why anyone would want to live in America?

How are they different from an "active shooter drill"?

My husband works for a UK company but is an American citizen in the US. His colleagues who've come over from the UK earn about half of what they pay the Americans for the same role and they can't leave because their visas are tied to work. It's horrible, and basically indentured servitude. He's become close with a few who are working through the green card process specifically so they can find other jobs here.

Not true at all; I lived in a major US city and now live in a small coastal New England city. I've always been very comfortable at night on my own, and I am not remotely unusual in that way. Actually hopping in the car shortly to head to NYC for a visit to my best friend; she's raising her children on the UES and does not have safety concerns (specific to the city). It's very common for people to be out on their own at night in US cities.

I'm not a 2nd amendment fan. I'd be happy for guns to be banned, but it's a little misleading to exclude the fact that 59% of paediatric gun deaths (under 18) are by a family member/domestic situation rather than a random school shooting.

My sister (English) and her husband (American) are both in higher education there, so mediocre salaries and can afford a beautiful home, and in 22 years of living there have never been in any of the situations people bang on about. I have been to the US many many times too including a couple of months ago. No country is perfect.

Thanks for the correction

I’m not sure if you meant to miss it but I’ll be charitable and say

Oh, you seem to have missed the preceding sentence from your quote

“Lockdown procedures may be activated in response to any number of situations, but some of
the more typical might be:”

The lockdown response would be the same if it was an external threat, I.e a member of the public getting into the school, as it would if a pupil posed the same threat.

What do you think a school would do if a pupil came in armed and posing a threat?

“Oh we are only trained for lockdowns with external threats. Let’s all just scream and run around aimlessly”

And the dog on the playground story is to keep children calm and not instil the idea that they might not be 100% safe at school.

This is the chance of being murdered in any particular year.

It’s harder to find figures for the lifetime risk, but it appears that between 1 in 100 and 1 in 200 US residents will die by homicide. Of course some have much higher risk than others.

They are entirely different and focus on any external threat

“A reported incident/civil disturbance in the local community (with the potential
to pose a risk to staff and pupils in the school).
• An intruder on the school site (with the potential to pose a risk to staff and
pupils).
• A warning being received regarding a risk locally of air pollution (smoke
plume, gas cloud etc.) or chemical, biological or radiological contaminants.
• A major fire in the vicinity of the school.
• The close proximity of a dangerous dog or other animal roaming loose.”

NOT active shooter drills anywhere like those seen in the USA.

Our external threat drills are do innocuous most often focus on a potential animal in the playground as that is what is the most likely scenario as we don’t have a gun or kids being shot in school problem. They are calm drills almost identical to fire drills except a reverse with any kids or staff returning to classrooms on a different bell.

Most councils even have guidance on lockdowns

https://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1761/lockdown-procedures

I have dual citizenship and have never been tempted to live in the US. I’ll go on vacation to see family, but that’s it.

I agree. My children had them in the UK a few years ago. Why do people always say they don’t happen in the UK when they clearly do?

We do have lockdown drills which would be put in place if there was a person/ persons posing a deadly threat (which includes a shooter).

5.8% for under 19s..

The homicide rate for youth under 19 in the U.S. remains elevated, with recent data showing over 1,800 pediatric homicides annually and thousands more among older teens, largely driven by firearm injuries. The Americas also report the highest youth homicide rates globally, averaging around 5.8 per 100,000 for under-18s.

No it’s being realistic. Some of us have lived aboard and could have lived in a variety of places. The fact is the US has huge issues and even bigger issues for immigrants which us British seem to have a major problem in realising we are- the same as everybody else considering live in a country that isn’t their own.

Or indeed people choosing to relocate to any country other than the UK.

It's an amazing country with problems, like most.
If you work in particular areas you can make serious money. I lived there for a few years decades ago and know lots Brits who stayed, love it etc, but it wasn't for me.

The per capita homicide rate is 4.0 homicides per 100,000 residents. Which is higher than us a lot. But it's 0.004%.

Yes. A country where the leading cause of death for Under 19's - is guns. Yes the leading cause of death for under 19s in the USA - is guns. Totally preventable, but... So no thank you, I def do not want to live there.

'Manner of Death:
Homicide: Assault accounts for the largest share (roughly 59–60%) of pediatric firearm fatalities.
Suicide: Firearm suicide makes up approximately 32–35% of these tragic deaths.
Unintentional: Accidental discharges and undetermined intents make up the remaining percentage. 1, 2]'

Oh well it might be 1 in 9. By all metrics and data there is more crime there. NYC has higher per capita knife crime than London

National Context: Americans are approximately 26 times more likely to be shot and killed than residents of peer high-income nations

I did some reading and asked AI so it can be wrong but apparently over a lifetime an American has a 1% chance of being a victim of gum violence.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you.

No we don’t have shooting drills in the UK.

Since the shooting at Columbine in 1999, more than 390,000 students in the U.S. have experienced gun violence at school.

Each day 12 children die from gun violence in America. Another 32 are shot and injured.

Those figures are horrific.

But you were responding to the post about leading causing of death of children and teens. Suicide is not the leading cause of death in the UK, accidents are but yes, just like the U.S. a leading causing of death for teens is suicide.

It's not actually about who's better, these threads are ridiculous as there is a childish sense of delusion. I think Brits know that there is a quite a bit wrong with the UK, it is preferable to be a bit crap as it's more real. I visited Portobello market the other day and tbh it lacks soul, like Camden market it's a clinical paradoy of itself. I preferred life that was a bit crap in London in the 90s early 00s. I don't know what is wrong with being a realist about life.