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To wonder why anyone would want to live in America?

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allergon842 · 07/06/2026 17:06

I follow a woman on Instagram who moved from England to the States and someone commented "America is only great if you're white, rich, and healthy".

Putting aside Trump/politics, I've always found it weird why anyone would want/would have wanted to live there. I understand if you're from a developing country, but I don't see the appeal for anyone who comes from Europe. The lower taxes and opportunities are enticing, but if you can't make it, you can fall very easy with the lack of a safety net. It seems to be only decent if you're a top earner ($100,000+).

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Crushed23 · 07/06/2026 19:06

Cushionpin · 07/06/2026 18:33

It's already in the gutter tbf

I've always dreamt of living in the US. I can't really explain it, a gut feeling. The UK is just getting more of a small, overpopulated, miserable trap of a place to live with every passing year 😢

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Where do you live in the UK that you hold this view?

Yes, I left the UK for the US, but that was mainly due to pay/career opportunities. I loved everything else about living in the UK. It’s a fantastic country and I can’t get my head around all the negativity (from people who choose to continue living there, no less!)

TeenLifeMum · 07/06/2026 19:05

A PA in the nhs is band 4 so roughly £28k… my cousin in Texas does that job for $90k. My cousin’s house is a massive 4 bed twice the size of ours plus a lovely basement - same price.

Rrnraf · 07/06/2026 19:04

We and DC have only ever been on holiday. DH has been on work trips.

People who have lived there be honest do people "go out at night on their own". Extended family who have studied there basically say every major city is dangerous at night and no-one goes out after dark on their own

1dayatatime · 07/06/2026 19:04

Median income in US is $63k compared to $52 k in the UK.

I understand that many people would not move to the USA because of the inequality of income. Which creates the question of why not move to say Cuba where there is far less inequality of income compared to UK but with the caveat of everyone being poorer.

JustaDream · 07/06/2026 19:02

Because anyone who says anything like, "America is only great if you're white, rich, and healthy," is a rage baiting saddo along with the person who posted it on MN for comments.

Twinklefeet · 07/06/2026 19:00

Why would anyone want to live in india---- my step dad.
Why would anyone want to stay in rural poor town in vietnam -- I do.
Why would anyone want to to stay in a not so nice area in thailand ---- my sister.
Why why why, well its down to what people like and want.

Nihongo · 07/06/2026 18:57

If this is a real post, and not just a goady one… can you really not inagine that other people might have different wants/needs than you do OP?

I suppose if you believe all the bad news stories about the US, but then if you only went by the bad news stories from the UK nobody would want to live there either.

Meanwhile there are plenty of people happily living in both places.

Toddlerteaplease · 07/06/2026 18:55

@Eggplant19guns in America are terrifying. Knife crime is an issue, yes. But the amount of people you can kill in one go is much smaller.

KateSixer · 07/06/2026 18:51

MasterBeth · 07/06/2026 18:14

almost all of the world's most successful companies were founded and grew there.

But that's not true.

Not even close to being true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue

It's absolutely true. You have linked to a list of top companies by revenue. The fact that you have sent me a list featuring four state owned companies (the Chinese electrical grid company and two Chinese and a Saudi petrochemical companies) just reinforces the point.

Almost all the dynamism in the private sector is in the US.

TheKittenswithMittens · 07/06/2026 18:50

It sounds like we should ditch the monarchy and become the 51st state.

TankFlyBossW4lk · 07/06/2026 18:47

Jc2001 · 07/06/2026 17:21

You wait until Reform gets voted in here. All the knuckle draggers are going to drag this country into the gutter.

I'm so terrified of this. I'd like to believe liar Farage won't be voted in but I fear you're right.

Mumsgirls · 07/06/2026 18:44

Spent a lot of time visiting family who lived in Manhattan, which I know is not typical. Bad point for me is too much religion and lack of respect and suspicion of atheists. A lot of social life based on church. Averts on tv beyond annoying.
Drug problems have ruined cities like San Fran. But the gun thing would stop me and the death penalty. By our standards, huge indifference to the poor.

Pileoftrash · 07/06/2026 18:34

I have three friends from uni who married Americans and have chosen to bring up their families there. One family could choose UK, Denmark or US and they chose US!

They all live in nice areas but they are moments away from areas that feel extremely sketchy to me (more so than UK, & I’ve lived in East London etc. so not a wimp). The scale of homelessness also gets to me,

Cushionpin · 07/06/2026 18:33

Jc2001 · 07/06/2026 17:21

You wait until Reform gets voted in here. All the knuckle draggers are going to drag this country into the gutter.

It's already in the gutter tbf

I've always dreamt of living in the US. I can't really explain it, a gut feeling. The UK is just getting more of a small, overpopulated, miserable trap of a place to live with every passing year 😢

Newgirls · 07/06/2026 18:33

I have been many times and always loved it. A vibrant, beautiful country with some wonderful people. So many great cities, art galleries, theatres, parks etc

however right now it has lost its appeal due to trump. And the fact that so many people there support him / have allowed him to be there. That’s so disturbing. If Kamala Harris was president id prob move there!

Chocolatelabsarebest · 07/06/2026 18:26

OP, have you ever been to the States?

x2boys · 07/06/2026 18:23

tartyflette · 07/06/2026 18:12

And with gold-star health insurance and no existing pre-conditions.

Quite my son has type1 diabetes
Therre are many things wrong with the NHS but i do not have to worry about being able to afford his insulin , and Diabetic equipment unlike many of the American,s on a facebook group im on.

SpudGunToo · 07/06/2026 18:16

mumofoneAloneandwell · 07/06/2026 18:09

How does it feel to have lived my dream?!?! 😍😄

Did you have a doorman? Did the tower move when there was wind?

Why'd you leave? Sorry to pester you

Yes and yes. In the summer I’d go up to the roof terrace to sunbathe, or in the evening to have a drink and a cigarette.

After work I could run to and around Central Park (in the spring or sutumn) and then go to a deli or get a bagel on the walk back.

I was like the films.

My job brought me back, but I really do miss it.

mondaytosunday · 07/06/2026 18:15

I grew up there (I’m English) and can definitely see the appeal. Current administration aside, it’s a great country, one where you can move up and prosper and you are encouraged to do so. Sure there are negatives, and I’m not talking about gun crime etc. The prevailing work ethic means many people live to work, not even taking their two weeks a year. And many are one accident or disease away from health poverty. I wouldn’t, or even couldn’t, as a type 1 diabetic and with a DD with MS (could not afford the insurance) live there now, but I love visiting.

SnappyUmberLion · 07/06/2026 18:14

Eggplant19 · 07/06/2026 17:44

I’ve never felt unsafe walking through USA. Granted I’ve never walked alone through places you wouldn’t want to be in any city.

Personally, I don’t see guns as an issue. Sure, you see in the news the horrific cases of school shootings but we have an abundance of knife crime here in the UK… which sometimes I wonder might be preventable if guns were legal. In fact, women (and men) might be able to protect themselves from rape and crime more if criminals knew that everyone had a gun. Sure, they’d also have a gun but I can’t stand the notion that guns in America are ‘scary’… sure there needs to be more vetting so that they don’t get in the wrong hands but it’s in the constitution.

Let’s reduce knife crime in the UK by equipping everyone with a gun! Genius! 🙄

MasterBeth · 07/06/2026 18:14

KateSixer · 07/06/2026 17:40

The thing that is so striking is the can-do culture of the US.

It is not coincidence that almost all of the world's most successful companies were founded and grew there.

The UK and Europe have simply failed - largely because of high taxes - to foster the same entrepreneurial mindset. The UK and Europe are going backwards while the US goes forwards.

None of this is to defend US politics or the lack of social safety net in many places but unless our thick politicians get their heads round these stark economic facts and change policy we are all going to get poorer and the US will grow richer!

almost all of the world's most successful companies were founded and grew there.

But that's not true.

Not even close to being true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue

List of largest companies by revenue - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue

tartyflette · 07/06/2026 18:12

allergon842 · 07/06/2026 17:06

I follow a woman on Instagram who moved from England to the States and someone commented "America is only great if you're white, rich, and healthy".

Putting aside Trump/politics, I've always found it weird why anyone would want/would have wanted to live there. I understand if you're from a developing country, but I don't see the appeal for anyone who comes from Europe. The lower taxes and opportunities are enticing, but if you can't make it, you can fall very easy with the lack of a safety net. It seems to be only decent if you're a top earner ($100,000+).

And with gold-star health insurance and no existing pre-conditions.

ItWasInKensington · 07/06/2026 18:11

I absolutely LOVE the United States but I also assume it's only possible to have a nice life there if you're very wealthy

mumofoneAloneandwell · 07/06/2026 18:09

SpudGunToo · 07/06/2026 18:04

I lived on the 40th floor, just if Times Square, then later in a Brownstone near Central Park.

I was wonderful. The whole life was. The job, the night life, the shopping, the museums, the parks and beaches.

Going up to the Hamptons in the summer, or flying to Miami or Key West for the weekend.

How does it feel to have lived my dream?!?! 😍😄

Did you have a doorman? Did the tower move when there was wind?

Why'd you leave? Sorry to pester you

StabiaGirl · 07/06/2026 18:08
  1. Better weather (Hawaii, Florida)
  2. Better food (any one of a number of cities)
  3. Bigger, better houses (ok not NYC)
  4. Low taxes - some states have 0 purchase tax
  5. Friendly, generous people
  6. They admire success
  7. They're not cynical
  8. Good old fashioned manners (yes ma'am, no ma'am)
  9. The kids In Hawaii call strangers uncle/aunty!
  10. Surf in the morning, ski in the afternoon (California)
  11. Mind bogglingly vast wilderness
  12. No nanny state mentality
  13. Freedom to live how you want (Live free or die!)
  14. Not ageist, older people are respected as valuable members of society
  15. Close to Mexico!
  16. Close to the Caribbean
  17. Freedom to practice Christianity without ridicule
  18. Big trucks!
  19. Largest consumer market in the world = great deals for consumers
  20. Variety of lifestyles: Anyone can find their niche, somewhere in the USA