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Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 09:30

Hi, posting here for traffic!
Writing a grievance, ACAS has advised it but won’t read it prior to sending.
Can’t go to citizens advice as it is linked to my work…
is there a legitimate organisation who will read my grievance prior to sending?
it is long and covers so many issues in multiple areas, primarily disability discrimination, bullying and poor, possibly illegal practices but I am conscious I am coming from a place of high stress and emotion as well as sick with pain and don’t want to write a sprawling document that might be overkill and not taken seriously.
I’m neurodivergent and have been told I give too much info and find it really hard to pare down whilst maintaining the importance of the grievance.

thank you

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topcat2014 · 07/06/2026 10:52

What result are you hoping for our seeking? Bearing in mind most employers don't do much, and you mark your card

SuperMagicHappyForest · 07/06/2026 10:51

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:37

Thank you, oh my god, it’s probably about 12 pages, which still feels too long. I’m thinking constructive dismissal… if there was an EDI handbook, my employers have done the opposite of every single possible guideline, lied on my OH referral etc.
im wondering if an employment law solicitor would see me in the free thirty minutes?
im about to go into ssp , honestly if you knew the job I had before you would think i was mad, i had the best possible deal but this opportunity came up unexpectedly and almost seemed too good to be true.
i am kicking myself daily which is not helping my mental health any.

You won’t get this dealt with in 30 minutes you need to be prepared to pay. The 30 minutes will cover an overview not giving specific legal advice on next steps. They certainly wouldn’t be reading your grievance's and feeding back in that time.

Totaldramallama · 07/06/2026 10:50

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:43

Would it be safe to say ‘constructive dismissal’ ? This doesn’t give them a chance to then put anything right but they were given all the information a year ago including ATW recommendations, everything about all my disabilities, made assurances before I accepted the role, arrived and everything had stalled then later on told me that I would need to fund all the recommendations myself even though they agreed before I accepted the job that the changes would make it fully accessible for everyone and amongst that the boss has shown rage, flip flopped on processes, publicly shamed me in meetings, made it impossible to do my job properly or indeed safely, impacting my professional reputation and my personal safety.
its been a clusterfuck

How can it be constructive dismissal if you still work there? Do you have evidence for all this stuff?

Retiredbosslady · 07/06/2026 10:49

Try Disability Law Service
dls.org.uk/our-services/employment/

MargaretThursday · 07/06/2026 10:49

I'd advise bullet points, and categorising them. Along the lines of:

Disability:

  1. They said they'd do this reasonable adjustment and didn't
  2. They called me a ** in X meeting: Witnessed by A. Whistleblower, statement attached

Exclusion:

  1. I wasn't invited to this meeting despite being the lead on part of it. Screenshot of email attached
  2. I asked to be included on emails about the Manhatten project as the result effects my work and this hasn't happened.
  3. I was invited to a zoom meeting and wasn't allowed entry. W H Smith (host) is willing to tell you that they were told by A Big Boss to block me.

So it's clear.

If it's a lot though, they will almost certainly focus on only some of the accusations, and ignore those where there is no evidence at least. So make sure the bigger ones, and those with evidence are at the top. Things like exclusion #2 I've written there will be he said/she said, they can probably find a reason why they didn't include you, so make sure that sort of one is towards the bottom end - it's there as a "all these things add up" rather than one they will act on.

Good luck.

Totaldramallama · 07/06/2026 10:48

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:00

Thanks, I think part of the issue is a don’t know what i actually want. Even if they did make all the promised adjustments recommendations from ATW, I don’t think I can continue with the boss, a real nasty character, big fish small pond, high staff turnover but talks a good talk to the board and all looks good on paper.
people are scared of the boss but none of them have disabilities so can get through.
Senior manager has ignored my request for support.

If you don't want any particular outcome then why raise the grievance? If you hate the job so much leave. If it is about genuine disability discrimination and you think you have some kind of claim then focus your grievance entirely on that. Grievances moaning about not getting on with particular characters or unpleasant bosses can only go so far and the only real outcome could be to move you somewhere else within the business. They can't sack your boss because you've raised a grievance saying they're not nice.

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:47

Mcdhotchoc · 07/06/2026 10:22

Do you have legal expenses cover at all? Maybe with household insurance?

Thanks. Annoyingly I very recently changed insurers so no doubt that would void any claim if I did have cover, thanks though, this is helpful to know, I didn’t know that was a thing

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Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:45

StrictlyCoffee · 07/06/2026 10:16

And the “end point” could be at least 3 - 4 years away given the current state of tribunals, just FYI.

Whoa! I guess I’d just get on with life and hope it rumbles away in the background? Am I being naive?!

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Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:44

Motnight · 07/06/2026 09:36

Op can I ask, have you posted about this before?

Please rtft and don’t join the irrelevant and derailing pile on

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Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:43

Passaggressfedup · 07/06/2026 10:39

Totally agree, don't make it long. Biggest mistake, you'll lose their interest.

Bullet points.

Start with a brief background for each issue.

Don't go on about all the wrong doing and how it affected you. Make this just one or two bullet points.

Most important part....tell them what you want out of the grievance and why you think it's reasonable.

Would it be safe to say ‘constructive dismissal’ ? This doesn’t give them a chance to then put anything right but they were given all the information a year ago including ATW recommendations, everything about all my disabilities, made assurances before I accepted the role, arrived and everything had stalled then later on told me that I would need to fund all the recommendations myself even though they agreed before I accepted the job that the changes would make it fully accessible for everyone and amongst that the boss has shown rage, flip flopped on processes, publicly shamed me in meetings, made it impossible to do my job properly or indeed safely, impacting my professional reputation and my personal safety.
its been a clusterfuck

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Passaggressfedup · 07/06/2026 10:41

Oh and quote where and how they fail their policies. It needs to be structured. 12 pages is bound to be full of waffling.

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:39

Lilmisskayos86 · 07/06/2026 10:35

I run a HR business and deal with grievances a lot for different businesses, if you want me to have a read through it DM me and I can give feedback on it.

Wow! That is really kind thank you so much, I would massively appreciate it, if I put it together and redact the identifying details that would be great, also feel free to retract the offer if it looks too much. It’s still in draft atm , when the kids are back in school I will put it together.
thank you, I am crying now, the kindness of strangers hey

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Passaggressfedup · 07/06/2026 10:39

Totally agree, don't make it long. Biggest mistake, you'll lose their interest.

Bullet points.

Start with a brief background for each issue.

Don't go on about all the wrong doing and how it affected you. Make this just one or two bullet points.

Most important part....tell them what you want out of the grievance and why you think it's reasonable.

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:37

SuperMagicHappyForest · 07/06/2026 10:27

Some thoughts

unions don’t have to be in your workplace to be part of one. You just have to find the one suitable for your role/profession.

but a union won’t help you now, it’s far too late for a pre-existing issue of this complexity

ACAS will provide guidance on process but absolutely won’t be there to support you. It is not their role to do that. If you go down an unfair/constructive dismissal path ACAS will act as mediators (and you have to do this before tribunal). And remember the 3 months less one day rule, so stuff that happened over a year ago may be ruled out (although it would give context).

not sure CAB will be of help but try them. They may not be specialists in employment law. An employment lawyer is what you need (a friend unless with specific knowledge can only edit based on the readability of your grievance not the content and law / policy aspect).

grievences should start with the solution you are seeking - what do you want out of this process? What do you want the employer to do?

your grievance letter should clearly state the facts but it should be considered. The longest draft grievance that I have read (as an accredited rep) was 120 pages in length. As the rep I gave up after the first 10 pages, as the employer they would haven’t got so far.

you need to stick to facts and try not to get emotional. When there has been an impact you need to be clear in what that impact has been. Being specific against policies and laws is useful.

you need to get a lawyer to advise you and a good one (I know some duff ones out there who will take anything on and have no hope of success). They can help frame your grievance in terms of the law and policies (and if the employer has followed the policies which generally they don’t) and give some indication of your success if you have to go to tribunal.

as an aside and what I say to my members - grievances are awful for all involved and beware, there are always unintended consequences- you will also be put under a spotlight so ensure that you have clean hands and have also behaved appropriately

Thank you, oh my god, it’s probably about 12 pages, which still feels too long. I’m thinking constructive dismissal… if there was an EDI handbook, my employers have done the opposite of every single possible guideline, lied on my OH referral etc.
im wondering if an employment law solicitor would see me in the free thirty minutes?
im about to go into ssp , honestly if you knew the job I had before you would think i was mad, i had the best possible deal but this opportunity came up unexpectedly and almost seemed too good to be true.
i am kicking myself daily which is not helping my mental health any.

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AHalfling · 07/06/2026 10:37

I would go to a specialist employment lawyer.

Lilmisskayos86 · 07/06/2026 10:35

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 09:30

Hi, posting here for traffic!
Writing a grievance, ACAS has advised it but won’t read it prior to sending.
Can’t go to citizens advice as it is linked to my work…
is there a legitimate organisation who will read my grievance prior to sending?
it is long and covers so many issues in multiple areas, primarily disability discrimination, bullying and poor, possibly illegal practices but I am conscious I am coming from a place of high stress and emotion as well as sick with pain and don’t want to write a sprawling document that might be overkill and not taken seriously.
I’m neurodivergent and have been told I give too much info and find it really hard to pare down whilst maintaining the importance of the grievance.

thank you

I run a HR business and deal with grievances a lot for different businesses, if you want me to have a read through it DM me and I can give feedback on it.

ExtraOnions · 07/06/2026 10:32

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:17

Thank you, I have to be so careful what I write, too much detail an it becomes identifiable but the law has been broken in multiple ways, not just related to me, I can’t decide what to do for the best really but this person has essentially changed my life irreparably due to the toxicity and lack of accessibility including physical access , it’s broken me

It doesn’t really answer the question of what outcome you want. You need to be really clear about that, or you risk it becoming a directionless rant.

Do you want your job back? Do you want to be moved? Do you want a pay off? Do you want someone sacking?

You need evidence in all cases, times, dates, other people, documents etc. Tie everything back to the outcome that you want.

Fridgemanageress · 07/06/2026 10:29

Sometimes u don’t want or need to get to legal jargonny.

You have a grievance, you have written everything down, you have not lied or embellished anything on the forms.

You may/may not have all the proof you need, but all the proof you have - include it.

Keep it clear, concise and simple.

If you’re going to court, keep your temper under control, don’t get into a “heated discussion”, just keep to the facts

goid luck

SuperMagicHappyForest · 07/06/2026 10:27

Some thoughts

unions don’t have to be in your workplace to be part of one. You just have to find the one suitable for your role/profession.

but a union won’t help you now, it’s far too late for a pre-existing issue of this complexity

ACAS will provide guidance on process but absolutely won’t be there to support you. It is not their role to do that. If you go down an unfair/constructive dismissal path ACAS will act as mediators (and you have to do this before tribunal). And remember the 3 months less one day rule, so stuff that happened over a year ago may be ruled out (although it would give context).

not sure CAB will be of help but try them. They may not be specialists in employment law. An employment lawyer is what you need (a friend unless with specific knowledge can only edit based on the readability of your grievance not the content and law / policy aspect).

grievences should start with the solution you are seeking - what do you want out of this process? What do you want the employer to do?

your grievance letter should clearly state the facts but it should be considered. The longest draft grievance that I have read (as an accredited rep) was 120 pages in length. As the rep I gave up after the first 10 pages, as the employer they would haven’t got so far.

you need to stick to facts and try not to get emotional. When there has been an impact you need to be clear in what that impact has been. Being specific against policies and laws is useful.

you need to get a lawyer to advise you and a good one (I know some duff ones out there who will take anything on and have no hope of success). They can help frame your grievance in terms of the law and policies (and if the employer has followed the policies which generally they don’t) and give some indication of your success if you have to go to tribunal.

as an aside and what I say to my members - grievances are awful for all involved and beware, there are always unintended consequences- you will also be put under a spotlight so ensure that you have clean hands and have also behaved appropriately

Kepler22B · 07/06/2026 10:23

If you are worried about citizen’s advise not being confidential (it should be but people are people) could you go to one in the next town over?

WellThatIsABitMad · 07/06/2026 10:22

I’d do as someone else suggested and run it through chat gpt. I’d say you want no more than two sides of A4 as a rough guide.

Mcdhotchoc · 07/06/2026 10:22

Do you have legal expenses cover at all? Maybe with household insurance?

Thecomedyclub · 07/06/2026 10:22

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:11

Thank you so much for your thoughtful and helpful response.
I was keeping a diary since day one then had a calamitous tech experience and lost EVERYTHING!!!
I have no access to my work emails where there’s lots of evidence, annoyingly when I went sick I nearly brought my laptop home to tie up some loose ends but decided to just pass it all on to them to manage.
i have a list but not necessarily dates, and be of the culture of the place I don’t want to bring in witnesses etc although I can state when things happened in meetings where I was refused access to essential tools or publicly humiliated , to the point where people spoke to me privately about it.
as above , there is a high staff turnover but all have given practical valid reasons not distressing ones, they are all able bodied, not nd and find it far easier to find new roles

You could try submitting a Subject Access Request to get your employer to send you that information? Good luck OP

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:17

StrictlyCoffee · 07/06/2026 10:13

So what outcome are you looking for? Assuming that your work aren’t going to
get rid of your boss, it’ll need to be you that leaves. I am sorry you’re having a shit time but you need to think ahead and about how is this grievance actually going to serve you in any way.

Thank you, I have to be so careful what I write, too much detail an it becomes identifiable but the law has been broken in multiple ways, not just related to me, I can’t decide what to do for the best really but this person has essentially changed my life irreparably due to the toxicity and lack of accessibility including physical access , it’s broken me

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StrictlyCoffee · 07/06/2026 10:16

Holidaymodeon · 07/06/2026 10:13

There’s very clear disability discrimination and ignoring access recommendations etc, I will follow the process to the end point whatever I am advised but I am asking for help for the first step of writing it, not the what ifs.

And the “end point” could be at least 3 - 4 years away given the current state of tribunals, just FYI.