American Influencers who terminated for T21.

Why? If they can’t cope with Down Syndrome then they definitely won’t cope with a child with non verbal autism. I’m pointing out they relied on the scan being perfect but that doesn’t always show the disability.

As early as possible, as late as necessary.
Wishing autism on a child is vile.

It’s not just her body though, it’s the baby’s body too. Nobody is forcing women to become pregnant unless they are raped but that is a very small minority. Therefore they ‘chose’ what to do with their body, and this is an unlikely but still not impossible consequence.

What a horrible person you are with that last comment

I will.choose the same action should it happen as we are trying for another.

What happened to a woman having the right to choose what she wants to do with her body?

Well technically it is a parasite hence why the woman's immune system is suppressed. Why does it matter how she describes it?

Seriously though calling a developing baby a ‘leech’? Thats pretty horrible IMO

Down syndrome isn’t incompatible with life unless there’s additional reasons, this couple still chose termination quite late.

It’s likely due to the big pull from certain advocacy groups not to allow late terminations for DS, I know Sally Phillips has been particularly vocal in this remit. I watched her docu a few years ago and understood her points but I feel it’s always unfair to insist everyone else makes the same life choices as you because yours were definitely right.

Raising a child with any disability is far more difficult than an able bodied NT child, irrespective of how amazing the disabled child is. Terminating at such a late stage must be utterly harrowing, nobody is opting to do that for the hell of it.

Good for you? Many do have abortions for that type of sickness. I don't blame them. Also sounds like a medical reason to me.

That sounds as though they may have just had the first " risk" screening test but not an actual amino. My DD was given a 1 in 7 chance of downs from nuchal fold test but the amino actually ruled that out

No one opts for an abortion at that point unless it is incompatible with life.

Leech? Are you serious?

Also, I had an abortion, at 31 years of age, I was in good health, but the baby was draining me of everything. It was literally killing me and by the time I got to 10 weeks, we had to TFMR because I was dying. I have two other children and a husband to think about: the newest baby wasn’t even a baby at that point, more of a leech that was draining everything from me before my day had even started. I was so poorly I couldn’t do anything so TFMR it was.

Good grief; a ‘leech’? That’s how you talk about a developing human? I have sympathy for your situation, having been through full blown medicated hyperemesis with DS, but you sound like you’re in denial frankly. A 10 week fetus is noticeably human shaped and has most of its anatomy at that stage. And that’s not a TFMR it’s a termination because you struggled being pregnant.

just to add they may not be mentally, physically or emotionally prepared to take on a disabled child. Not to mention that in America, the lack of free at the point of use, healthcare means they may be paying an absolute fortune for medical assessments, diagnosis and help for the rest of the child’s life.
Also, I had an abortion, at 31 years of age, I was in good health, but the baby was draining me of everything. It was literally killing me and by the time I got to 10 weeks, we had to TFMR because I was dying. I have two other children and a husband to think about: the newest baby wasn’t even a baby at that point, more of a leech that was draining everything from me before my day had even started. I was so poorly I couldn’t do anything so TFMR it was.

It’s absolute rubbish that they can get the diagnosis wrong. Some people may be conflating the results of the NIPT or the combined screening with a diagnosis. These are not diagnostic tests, though NIPT is very accurate. Diagnosis is always confirmed by either CVS or amnio before you are offered a TFMR.

I’m not on social media but my DS1 is and he contacted me yesterday about this. He writes about and advocates for disability rights. Some of the comments in support of the couple were also horrific if you were a disabled person reading them and seeing what others thought your life was worth.

Nobody is forced to continue a pregnancy. It’s just about at what stage they can’t force the state to intervene in their pregnancy any more, which is quite different. The state isn’t getting women pregnant, quite the opposite - we have a spectrum of free and highly reliable contraceptives so we don’t get pregnant. But if we do, I don’t think it’s a human right to force the state to intervene at any stage we like to then end that pregnancy. Medical staff have feelings and the vast majority will not want to terminate a healthy 30 week pregnancy, and we shouldn’t make them.

I have to admit that if I was a parent currently considering this issue for an unborn child, I'd be rather rattled by all the people coming out saying they got that diagnosis and the baby was born perfectly 'normal

I assume these people are either (a) full of shit/lying or (b) had their child before the more advanced/ accurate tests today.

It’s not really surprising that those who would force others to give birth, who are anti-choice, turn out to be dickheads to other people.

They’ve made the same choice as the majority of people with a Trisomy 21 diagnosis in pregnancy. Some of the people who say they’d never choose this would certainly do so if their choice were no longer hypothetical.

I think before anyone can judge they should be asked how many children with special needs will they or have they adopted. My guess is none.

I personally have no opinion on what they have done as it is only their business but why put your life on the internet then complain people have an opinion

And if people want to call this victim blaming or whatever this year's new label is feel free

I think 'for personal reasons' would have done. If they had to say anything at all. Or 'we're sad to announce we lost the baby' with no reason.

It's always a gamble and DS, like autism, runs a wide spectrum as far as how the person is affected.

Yes, they were definitely very foolish to publicise the 'why' imo. Better to lie. Although perhaps they feared someone might leak the truth?

I figure there's always a chance the tests can be wrong, either way. You're playing the odds, really. Some people err on the side of caution, and others are happier to accept whatever the outcome is.