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American Influencers who terminated for T21.

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ScaredButUnavoidable · 06/06/2026 14:11

Has everyone else seen all the hatred online for the social media influencers who have decided to terminate a pregnancy due to a diagnosis of T21?

I have no idea who the couple are but today my social media feed is full of really abhorrent articles, videos and posts aimed at them (and about termination in general) and I’m just horrified.

Unsurprisingly they are in America, but even so.

I’m assuming the couple have been streaming videos about the pregnancy since the start and this announcement seems to have sparked absolute outrage.

Ok, the Influencers must have realised that some people would be upset by their decision, but at the same time, those same people must understand that although couples choose to have terminations based on medical conditions it’s still usually a very difficult and upsetting decision for them to make.

Has anyone else seen it?
I’m deleting as much of it as I can from my timeline but it’s constant.
They are even getting death threats.

It’s like a witch-hunt, it’s disgusting 😢

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BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 07/06/2026 08:48

Everyone has discussed "parenting/raising a disabled child" through the thread

But more than that, it's about parenting a disabled adult

It's not like their need for you is going to magically disappear when they reach 18 - they're going to need you every day for the rest of your life (or their life)

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/06/2026 08:47

The woman is definitely in control of both destinies, so the fetus has far fewer rights.

You obviously don’t approve of abortions, so, I will say to you: don’t have one, then.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 07/06/2026 08:46

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/06/2026 08:39

And i’m guessing they would have terminated that pregnancy as well.

Autism is hard. I wouldn't blame them.

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:44

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/06/2026 08:37

I still support her decision to terminate though.
If you can’t even have the ultimate decision to say what goes on in your own body, and that the ‘baby’ has more rights to your body than you do, then Christ almighty…

I think I might have terminated a pregnancy under those circumstances, as well.

The baby doesn’t have more rights, it has equal rights, and didn’t ask to be conceived. This isn’t the same as enslaving somebody, or forcing them to donate a kidney. The majority of pregnancies come from ttc or being careless with regards to contraception.

I know it’s frowned upon to expect anyone to exercise a bit of care for their own life and be accountable for it, but here we are.

KittyTinker · 07/06/2026 08:43

DontBuyAnotherBook · 07/06/2026 08:22

I will.choose the same action should it happen as we are trying for another.

But will you be choosing to share your decision on social media?

ScaredButUnavoidable · 07/06/2026 08:43

DontBuyAnotherBook · 07/06/2026 08:21

What happened to a woman having the right to choose what she wants to do with her body?

It feels like the narrative of women having the right to choose a termination for any reason, and having the over her own body was really advocated….. until it comes to DS. If you have a termination because of a DS diagnosis suddenly you’re a bad person and all the ‘rights’ you supposedly have go out the window 🙄

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DurinsBane · 07/06/2026 08:41

DinoGreen · 06/06/2026 20:48

But this is exactly what I said above about there being more judgment for TFMRs than there is for normal abortion. Abortion is legal in the UK for ANY reason up to 24 weeks. Yes not many happen at that stage but not many TFMRs happen either.

Abortion is not legal for any reason up to that time in the Uk. Has to be approved by 2 doctors and only under specific grounds (legally, but in reality yes a woman can get one very easily)

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/06/2026 08:39

HollyhockDays · 07/06/2026 08:34

If they had said they had a test done and found out their child has autism or adhd or another condition what would people think? Because they are also a spectrum where some people can lead “normal lives and some can’t.

Anyone could end up with a child that needs more support.

And i’m guessing they would have terminated that pregnancy as well.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/06/2026 08:37

I still support her decision to terminate though.
If you can’t even have the ultimate decision to say what goes on in your own body, and that the ‘baby’ has more rights to your body than you do, then Christ almighty…

I think I might have terminated a pregnancy under those circumstances, as well.

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:35

friedaklein · 07/06/2026 08:32

Yes, in certain severely restricted circumstances.
I also support the decriminalisation of abortion.

If you restrict circumstances then you’re not ‘as early as possible as late as necessary’ are you?

HollyhockDays · 07/06/2026 08:34

If they had said they had a test done and found out their child has autism or adhd or another condition what would people think? Because they are also a spectrum where some people can lead “normal lives and some can’t.

Anyone could end up with a child that needs more support.

PersephoneParlormaid · 07/06/2026 08:33

I was in a similar situation nearly 30 years ago, but we didn’t have the tests then that we have now. Had a late blood test which showed a problem, knew at that point that I couldn’t have a child with problems. Asked for an amino and while waiting for the results felt my baby move. In that moment I knew I couldn’t terminate. Luckily the amino came back clear, but your decision can change in a heartbeat and it’s you that has to live with the decision.

friedaklein · 07/06/2026 08:32

ThejoyofNC · 07/06/2026 08:24

Define as late as necessary please? Would you support "abortion" at 39 weeks?,

Yes, in certain severely restricted circumstances.
I also support the decriminalisation of abortion.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/06/2026 08:31

I think they’re both a couple of arseholes. Being ‘Influencers’ is the most vapid, shallow, load of bollocks.
And i know money is always the motive behind it.

They knew full well the response they would get.
There’s no more divisive subject in America than abortion.
They knew, and must be thriving on all the attention: good, bad, and vitriolic.

A proper pair of cunts.

Thechaseison71 · 07/06/2026 08:28

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:27

I didn’t, FFS.

Everyone else knew what I meant but you’ve whipped yourself into such a frenzy you’ve misinterpreted what I put completely.

Whipped myself into a frenzy?? What the fuck?? Where the hell are you getting that from

If that's not what you said then it's very poor writing as it certainly comes across that way

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:28

friedaklein · 07/06/2026 08:27

Ok. Got it. I apologise, but you really have framed that strangely.

Thank you

friedaklein · 07/06/2026 08:27

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:26

No, your comprehension skills are severely lacking. I said I hope their next child doesn’t appear perfect on the scan but then goes on to have autism or similar, as they wouldn’t cope.

You’ve read it as ‘I hope their child isn’t scan perfect, but has autism’ which is entirely different.

Edited

Ok. Got it. I apologise, but you really have framed that strangely.

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:27

Thechaseison71 · 07/06/2026 08:26

But why would you wish it on them?

I didn’t, FFS.

Everyone else knew what I meant but you’ve whipped yourself into such a frenzy you’ve misinterpreted what I put completely.

Thechaseison71 · 07/06/2026 08:26

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:23

Why? If they can’t cope with Down Syndrome then they definitely won’t cope with a child with non verbal autism. I’m pointing out they relied on the scan being perfect but that doesn’t always show the disability.

But why would you wish it on them?

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:26

friedaklein · 07/06/2026 08:25

Oh, I did. It's plain.

No, your comprehension skills are severely lacking. I said I hope their next child doesn’t appear perfect on the scan but then goes on to have autism or similar, as they wouldn’t cope.

You’ve read it as ‘I hope their child isn’t scan perfect, but has autism’ which is entirely different.

Thechaseison71 · 07/06/2026 08:25

ThejoyofNC · 06/06/2026 21:01

I think in choosing to have a baby, you accept that there is a chance you won't be having a "perfect" child.

But there no need to continue with a pregnancy if you know about problems before birth

friedaklein · 07/06/2026 08:25

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Oh, I did. It's plain.

ThejoyofNC · 07/06/2026 08:24

friedaklein · 07/06/2026 08:23

As early as possible, as late as necessary.
Wishing autism on a child is vile.

Define as late as necessary please? Would you support "abortion" at 39 weeks?,

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/06/2026 08:24

KittyTinker · 07/06/2026 06:43

I’m not on social media but my DS1 is and he contacted me yesterday about this. He writes about and advocates for disability rights. Some of the comments in support of the couple were also horrific if you were a disabled person reading them and seeing what others thought your life was worth.

That’s SM, though. Everything has to be 100mph and hotter than the sun.

They also say things simply to be an arsehole.

Twisterlollies · 07/06/2026 08:24

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