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Was this neighbour "entitled to say what he wants in his own garden?"

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MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 05/06/2026 13:49

My friend shared a funny story this morning.

Her garden ends in a six foot fence, which backs onto another garden for the house behind her. They are large, very long gardens.

The man of this house, clearly thinking he had found a secluded spot away from his kids, was having a VERY explicit conversation with his wife on the phone, at the end of his garden, right against the fence. He was describing in great detail exactly what he was going to do to her when she returned home from her trip.

Trouble is, friend and her kids were sat right on the other side of the fence. They have a decking area there with chairs, tables, kids toys etc.

She couldn't let this conversation go on in earshot of her kids (3yo and 5yo) so she cheerfully shouted over the fence "very happy for your wife mate, but my kids are two feet away from you!" To which she heard a fumbled "shit, hold on" and then silence.

She reiterated this story to us, we all laughed, and agreed she did the right thing.

Retold story to husband just now who laughed, but said really, she had no right to tell him anything and embarrass him. It's his garden, he can have that conversation if he wants, and she should have moved the kids away until it stopped.

I disagree and think if you're going to live around other people you need to think of other people.

Who's right?
Reasonable - me and my friends
unreasonable - my DH

OP posts:
Longleggedgiraffe · 06/06/2026 21:45

Dollymylove · 05/06/2026 14:21

I wonder why he didnt have the conversation in the privacy of his house? Could it be because he didnt want his wife to here it? 🤣

It is quite possible that he thought that as he was on his own property he didn't have to skulk away. FWIWI'm with him. As soon as the conversation got ssly she should have removed the kids. Then, later, explained to him the she could hear him.
Neither are in the wrong, really.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 21:43

XenoBitch · 06/06/2026 21:14

I would argue it was the opposite to hate speech 😁

😂

TheEagerDuck · 06/06/2026 21:42

Hard one coz both are kinda right. The guy thought he was having a private convo with his wife and the friend and children also have right to enjoy their home inc gardens. However, I think hubby is right to say on this occasion, friend should have just moved and not embarrassed the guy on his property. Was likely a one off and everyone has to keep living next to each other

Hazzakay · 06/06/2026 21:38

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 21:01

It's not.

In the UK, you are not free to say whatever you want in your yard if it can be heard by neighbors. The law does not recognize an absolute right to privacy or unrestricted speech on your property if it constitutes a statutory nuisance or falls under hate speech

This is neither a statutory nuisance nor hate speech (assuming this “incident” was in England and/or Wales)

Chrissytommo · 06/06/2026 21:35

It never cease to amaze me what trivial questions people ask on this forum

eastegg · 06/06/2026 21:31

Nopersbro · 05/06/2026 14:32

I don't understand your husband's point; it seems like he's conflating legal rights with personal social decision-making.

Your friend didn't leap over the fence and seize his phone or attempt a citizen's arrest or call the police and report a crime, she called out to her neighbour and let him know she and her children could hear a conversation that he'd evidently gone to some lengths to have privately (but misjudged the level of privacy he'd actually found). Her calling out to him was the "neighbourly" and community/civic-minded thing to do under the circumstances. Had the neighbour felt strongly that he wanted to continue the conversation regardless of who could here he was perfectly able, but he didn't.

Could it really be "better" (and for whom) for your friend and the children to listen in silence, afraid to speak up or constrained from speaking up? Would the neighbour really be happier if he discovered tomorrow that several other people had heard his private conversation and said nothing?

Excellent post, sums it all up nicely! It’s not about what the neighbour has the ‘right’ to do, but whether it was the right decision for the friend to say something.

AguNwaanyi · 06/06/2026 21:28

MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 05/06/2026 14:01

We of course all asked the friend too 🤣
So first he was going to strip her naked, then tie her to the table by her feet and ankles, then it was when he started to describe the oral he was going to perform on her, that she stopped it.
Spoilt sport 🤣
And also good for them because their kids are young and they both work full time from what we can tell.
Probably all talk.

Well damn. Very happy for this random woman 🥂

eastegg · 06/06/2026 21:19

MrsShawnHatosy · 05/06/2026 13:54

If you have your decking area right up against your neighbour’s fence, overhearing something you don’t want to is a risk you take.

Tell me you don’t live in an overpopulated area without telling me etc. How else are gardens supposed to be configured?

XenoBitch · 06/06/2026 21:14

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 21:13

Yes, was just in answer as to whether or not one can say whatever they want.

I do like that you pointed out it definitely wasn't hate speech. Made me laugh. ☺️

I would argue it was the opposite to hate speech 😁

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 21:13

XenoBitch · 06/06/2026 21:10

The neighbour did not realise he was being overheard, and his conversation was to his wife.... so it is hardly unreasonable, persistent, and substantial interference, and it is definitely not hate speech.

Yes, was just in answer as to whether or not one can say whatever they want.

I do like that you pointed out it definitely wasn't hate speech. Made me laugh. ☺️

XenoBitch · 06/06/2026 21:10

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 20:58

Erm...

"In the UK, you are not free to say whatever you want in your yard if it can be heard by neighbours. The law does not recognize an absolute right to privacy or unrestricted speech on your property if it constitutes a statutory nuisance or falls under hate speech"

The neighbour did not realise he was being overheard, and his conversation was to his wife.... so it is hardly unreasonable, persistent, and substantial interference, and it is definitely not hate speech.

shuggles · 06/06/2026 21:03

Tableforjoan · 05/06/2026 18:07

I mean even if it wasn’t his wife.

He was having a conversion with someone on the phone away from his children. Be that wife, sex worker, his brother’s wife maybe his best mate Samual.

Sex workers don't allow themselves to be tied up, for obvious reasons. Duh.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 21:01

AlexStocks · 06/06/2026 20:04

Yet she is ALSO in her own yard. Does she and her kids not have the right to freely enjoy their yard? Why is his freedom clearly more important? Especially when he's trying to be secretive?

It's not.

In the UK, you are not free to say whatever you want in your yard if it can be heard by neighbors. The law does not recognize an absolute right to privacy or unrestricted speech on your property if it constitutes a statutory nuisance or falls under hate speech

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 20:59

SourdoughSally · 06/06/2026 20:57

Why would anyone put a seating area as close to their neighbours as they can? Surely sitting as far away as possible would be preferable?

Good point. 🎾

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 20:58

LongingforFlorida · 06/06/2026 20:54

Just like he has a right to say what he wants in his own garden?

Erm...

"In the UK, you are not free to say whatever you want in your yard if it can be heard by neighbours. The law does not recognize an absolute right to privacy or unrestricted speech on your property if it constitutes a statutory nuisance or falls under hate speech"

SourdoughSally · 06/06/2026 20:57

Why would anyone put a seating area as close to their neighbours as they can? Surely sitting as far away as possible would be preferable?

LongingforFlorida · 06/06/2026 20:54

Ellie1015 · 05/06/2026 13:53

Absolutely right to let him know kids were there and he could he heard.

Children have a right to play in their own garden without overhearing explicit conversation. Sounds like neighbour agrees as he modified his behaviour.

What does your dh suggest your friend should do? She didnt tell him off just let him know he could be heard.

Just like he has a right to say what he wants in his own garden?

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 20:49

XenoBitch · 06/06/2026 19:19

Er, the bloke in this situation went "oh shit", and presumably changed his behaviour after.
So, what is the AIBU?

That when the interaction was relayed the opinions varied as to whether or not anything should've been said.

PithyHedgehog · 06/06/2026 20:47

If he didn’t want his own kids to hear then why should anybody else have to listen to it, he obviously wanted a private conversation with his wife and wasn’t wanting anyone to overhear him too

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/06/2026 20:47

beeble347 · 06/06/2026 20:11

And said what to you?? I hate smoking too 😂

Must've been a slow day at the police station...

TessSaysYes · 06/06/2026 20:45

Your DH is talking rubbish.
Your kids are entitled to be in their garden without exposure to sexuallly explicit conversations.
That man would have prefered 🤣not to be heard, I would imagine, also.
Whats wrong with your DH head???😫
His what's right/wrong radar is way off

DaringQuoter · 06/06/2026 20:32

dairydebris · 05/06/2026 14:27

I think hes allowed to talk dirty in his own garden.
Shes allowed to warn him he can be heard.
Hes free to choose to carry on or move away.
Shes free to stay there or move away.
Textbook human interaction- everyone was right and no one was wrong.

This!

Hazzakay · 06/06/2026 20:18

AlexStocks · 06/06/2026 20:04

Yet she is ALSO in her own yard. Does she and her kids not have the right to freely enjoy their yard? Why is his freedom clearly more important? Especially when he's trying to be secretive?

His freedom is equally as important as hers. But she is the one who had a problem with her kids overhearing something she didn’t want them to. It’s for her to move her kids away - not seek to restrict what someone else talks about in their own garden.

beeble347 · 06/06/2026 20:11

FuzzyBumbleeBee · 05/06/2026 14:01

You'd think you have the right to say anything you want in your own garden but last year Dp was in ours and said oh ffs she's smoking again!
Not directed at the neighbour or shouting at her just in general and she called the police on us! And they turned up!

If he thinks any outdoors conversation is private just because he can't see anyone else he's daft the amount of gossip we overhear in our garden is ridiculous

Edited

And said what to you?? I hate smoking too 😂

AlexStocks · 06/06/2026 20:04

Yet she is ALSO in her own yard. Does she and her kids not have the right to freely enjoy their yard? Why is his freedom clearly more important? Especially when he's trying to be secretive?