To think amount of Roma and Traveller children withdrawn from school underage needs to be cracked down on?

But some don’t provide one. An ex colleague home schooled her daughter, said daughter was home alone everyday from eleven, no online school, just making tiktoks all day. She’s now 16, no qualifications, no job ans barely literate. She hasn’t received any education since she was ten years old. Our sons older two birth siblings as eight year olds had never set foot in a school, couldn’t read, write, count, name colours.

No one in authority would ever be brave enough to challenge traveller traditions. They’d be sacked.

Yes but they are required to provide full time education.

How do you separate that from the right of any parent to educate their children at home? It would be discriminatory to say that children from these groups must be in school, but every other child is permitted to be educated at home.

Oh come on, if you really care about traveller children why start a thread which is then full of casual racism. Plenty of children are out of school, plenty of families are also misogynistic, don't value education and all the rest of it. Not all travellers are the same as whatever stereotypes portray and it's definitely no easy thing to go through life being hated and discriminated against from birth really, that has more of an impact on any childhood impact than anything else. I reckon if you want to help them find an organisation supporting traveller communities and offer some time and resource

Even those that do not move around slip through the cracks. I teach at a primary school that has about 15 settled Irish travellers and I really do worry about all of them, especially the girls. Unfortunately, most of the families (in our school) get very defensive and have sometimes been aggressive when interventions have been put in place/attendance has been queried. School is used as childcare and there is no value seen in education. Schools and the government need to find a way to work with the traveller community because too many young girls are left vulnerable by not being able to read and write- adding young marriage into the mix leaves these girls at risk of domestic and financial abuse. I know this is not the case for all travellers but just what I have seen in my job. I care a lot about the children I teach and want them all to grow up to be happy and safe.

Everyone can withdraw their children from school.

But yes i agree a good education helps in many cases.
Missed education is not helpful for many

And some exceptions eg Don’t Judge a Book by its Cover | St John's College, Oxford https://share.google/Pg2wNJrGIUsb3g9BW

They’re a protected group under the Equality Act which means that the authorities are scared to push and not being policed, they are largely above the law.

I’ve heard school staff tell me of outrageous things (like threats and violence) they have to deal with when it comes to traveller families so I’m not surprised that ordinary workers don’t challenge. It is scandalous though - children have a legal entitlement to education.

For example, who was the perpetrator here?
Obv all walks of life for male violence tho i have not studied the stats
Hunt family murders - Wikipedia share.google/XTmxZQcluCl4xZXkN

I completely agree with this.

I work as a TA and one issue in my school is the families of particular children not pursuing any assessments, not keeping appointments, etc. I work with a child from a Travelling background and I am fairly sure he is dyslexic but his Mum refuses to have him assessed.

It was a larger knife that a minority sect of Sikhs is allowed to wear. (Madness!) He was legally allowed to wear it. The judge made this absolutely clear.

Are you basing your views on experience
Some tv shows?
Or actual studies?
Research eg Gypsies’ and Travellers’ lived experiences, overview, England and Wales - Office for National Statistics share.google/bKTmEELuOwUu8rLai

Two tier education

by removing children from school the menfolk keep their families in their place. If they are too educated they would risk experiencing life outside their culture and leave It’s a good way to control your children by keeping them uneducated

Any parent in the uk is entitled to home educate by which is meant they either educate their children themselves or organise tutors and similar to do it.

an awful lot of those who home educate are doing so because their children are disabled and have SEN and schools are not capable of meeting those needs.

the number of disabled kids who really need special school but are now starting in mainstream where they have no chance of getting a suitable education - because they are non verbal, because they are blind or deaf or both, etc, is so so much larger than it used to be.

I think it's similar to the Sikh knife thing. I think the law needs to be the same for everyone from now on. We all need to be playing by the same rules.

Because the UK places more importance on people’s ‘culture’ and religion than it does the laws of the UK. In the case of many of these communities with their important beliefs, it’s actually the women and girls that suffer and are treated as second class citizens.

The poor educational attainment of some traveller and Roma children is a real issue, I agree. Though not confined to them.