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coulditbeme2323 · 2026-06-04T15:00:07+00:00

Who do LL's get so much hate on MN? It seems so much more hate than there is any real life.

Backedoffhackedoff · 05/06/2026 17:34

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/06/2026 17:28

You can't take peoples property away. That would be theft.

But I agree, there should be more social housing. Better vote Labour if that's what you want because none of the other parties are up for that.

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Compulsory purchase already exists. But this would likely take an act of parliament. Just because you can’t do it now doesn’t mean you never can.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/06/2026 17:28

Zov · 05/06/2026 14:45

No it's not, it's up to the local authority and housing associations to provide housing to the vulnerable and needy. THAT is why every private landlord needs EVERY PROPERTY THEY OWN taking off them, then they can being given what they paid for each house, and the houses can go into the local housing stock for social housing tenants. To increase the social housing stock! NO-ONE should own more than one home! NO-ONE!

NO individual (or family!) SHOULD HAVE A HOUSING PORTFOLIO FFS!

And no I have NOT had a bad experience with a private landlord, but I know plenty of people who bloody well have!!!

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You can't take peoples property away. That would be theft.

But I agree, there should be more social housing. Better vote Labour if that's what you want because none of the other parties are up for that.

Itchthescratch · 05/06/2026 16:22

Zov · 05/06/2026 15:02

Much of it is not. Check your facts before spouting random myths you have read on the internet.

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Social Housing is almost always subsidised to some extent, either directly or indirectly.

The running costs might be covered by rents but the construction/acquisition costs are almost always subsidised by the state. There is almost always an opportunity cost to building social housing that's good then government doing other things in other areas

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 16:19

Itchthescratch · 05/06/2026 16:18

But you want all private landlords stripped off their houses so even millionaires will be renting from social landlords as that is the only way to rent.

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I did try with her!

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Itchthescratch · 05/06/2026 16:18

Zov · 05/06/2026 14:52

I didn't say everyone who rents is vulnerable or needy. 🙄

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But you want all private landlords stripped off their houses so even millionaires will be renting from social landlords as that is the only way to rent.

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:32

bigboykitty · 05/06/2026 15:31

It's all true for most rentals, most of the time

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Do you have any evidence that isn't anecdotal?

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bigboykitty · 05/06/2026 15:31

coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:27

I am not sure that is true, in fact it isn't.

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It's all true for most rentals, most of the time

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:27

FeistyFrankie · 05/06/2026 15:24

As a former tenant (and now accidental landlord), I can tell you quite clearly:

Exploitation of tenants in the UK is rife (or at least it used to be)
Many landlords evict simply so that they can hike the price of the property up
Their homes are in awful condition and poorly maintained, often resulting in health complications for the tenant
As a homeowner who bought a couple of years ago, it waa always clear when a property was an ex-rental because the condition was disgusting - and these were not cosmetic issues, ie the tenants keeping the property in disrepair- I'm talking old windows in dire need of replacing, old boilers, old radiators, plaster falling off the walls, exposed brickwork, damp, moth/rodent infestation
Landlords generally don't invest money in maintaining their properties, they allow them to fall into disrepair, all the while charging their tenants often extortionate rates

This is why people don't like them. I'm currently renting to a family member and am certainly not treating my tenant the way I was once treated, when I was in their shoes.

I am not sure that is true, in fact it isn't.

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FeistyFrankie · 05/06/2026 15:24

As a former tenant (and now accidental landlord), I can tell you quite clearly:

Exploitation of tenants in the UK is rife (or at least it used to be)
Many landlords evict simply so that they can hike the price of the property up
Their homes are in awful condition and poorly maintained, often resulting in health complications for the tenant
As a homeowner who bought a couple of years ago, it waa always clear when a property was an ex-rental because the condition was disgusting - and these were not cosmetic issues, ie the tenants keeping the property in disrepair- I'm talking old windows in dire need of replacing, old boilers, old radiators, plaster falling off the walls, exposed brickwork, damp, moth/rodent infestation
Landlords generally don't invest money in maintaining their properties, they allow them to fall into disrepair, all the while charging their tenants often extortionate rates

This is why people don't like them. I'm currently renting to a family member and am certainly not treating my tenant the way I was once treated, when I was in their shoes.

Phineyj · 05/06/2026 15:17

Although I think they'd find they needed to pay the market value of each house, not what was originally paid for it.

Phineyj · 05/06/2026 15:15

Zov · 05/06/2026 14:45

No it's not, it's up to the local authority and housing associations to provide housing to the vulnerable and needy. THAT is why every private landlord needs EVERY PROPERTY THEY OWN taking off them, then they can being given what they paid for each house, and the houses can go into the local housing stock for social housing tenants. To increase the social housing stock! NO-ONE should own more than one home! NO-ONE!

NO individual (or family!) SHOULD HAVE A HOUSING PORTFOLIO FFS!

And no I have NOT had a bad experience with a private landlord, but I know plenty of people who bloody well have!!!

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There is absolutely nothing stopping social housing providers doing that right now (I don't think local authorities are allowed to purchase housing directly, are they?) Apart from money of course.

Anecdote is not data.

There are plenty of bad tenants too. I haven't had one, but that doesn't mean I deny they exist.

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:06

Zov · 05/06/2026 15:04

@coulditbeme2323 Look, you clearly don't want to hear anyone's views and opinions unless they are agreeing with you, and saying how wonderful ALL private landlords are!

If you had wanted everyone who posted to agree with your point of view and opinions, you should have said so in your opening post.

YES ALL PRIVATE LANDLORDS ARE LOVELY FLUFFY ANGELS AND THE WORLD WOULD BE A HORRIBLE PLACE WITHOUT THEM!

That better?

I'll leave you to it. CBA with you anymore. The 'all social housing is subsidised' line has pissed me right off. I am sick of this myth being trotted out on threads like this. And you called ME bitter earlier in the thread? All the LOLz!

As I said, crack on. I'll leave you to it.

Of course you can have your view.

And to be clear I don't think private LL's are wonderful, I view the LL/tenant relationship for what it is a transactional business relationship.

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Zov · 05/06/2026 15:04

@coulditbeme2323 Look, you clearly don't want to hear anyone's views and opinions unless they are agreeing with you, and saying how wonderful ALL private landlords are!

If you had wanted everyone who posted to agree with your point of view and opinions, you should have said so in your opening post.

YES ALL PRIVATE LANDLORDS ARE LOVELY FLUFFY ANGELS AND THE WORLD WOULD BE A HORRIBLE PLACE WITHOUT THEM!

That better?

I'll leave you to it. CBA with you anymore. The 'all social housing is subsidised' line has pissed me right off. I am sick of this myth being trotted out on threads like this. And you called ME bitter earlier in the thread? All the LOLz!

As I said, crack on. I'll leave you to it.

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:03

Zov · 05/06/2026 15:02

Much of it is not. Check your facts before spouting random myths you have read on the internet.

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I mean it is.

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:03

Zov · 05/06/2026 15:01

You didn't hammer anything home. Your example of someone who rents was ridiculous. 99% of people don't live in places like that! 🙄

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I literally just admitted I used a super high end example.

I then followed that by saying there were thousands of properties between the 5-10k pcm which you have ignored.

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Zov · 05/06/2026 15:02

coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:01

But it is subsidized.

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Much of it is not. Check your facts before spouting random myths you have read on the internet.

Zov · 05/06/2026 15:01

coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:01

It was I give you that, I used the highest possible rent to hammer the point home.

But there are literally thousands of properties to rent at 5-10k pcm.

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You didn't hammer anything home. Your example of someone who rents was ridiculous. 99% of people don't live in places like that! 🙄

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:01

Zov · 05/06/2026 14:59

Also. SHOCKER!

MANY TENANTS PAY THEIR OWN RENT TOO! 😱

Social housing is not FREE!

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But it is subsidized.

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 15:01

Zov · 05/06/2026 14:59

Not very well though. That was a ludicrous example.

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It was I give you that, I used the highest possible rent to hammer the point home.

But there are literally thousands of properties to rent at 5-10k pcm.

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Zov · 05/06/2026 14:59

coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 14:54

But point made.

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Not very well though. That was a ludicrous example.

Zov · 05/06/2026 14:59

ByLemonLeader · 05/06/2026 10:46

Tenants pay their own council tax

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Also. SHOCKER!

MANY TENANTS PAY THEIR OWN RENT TOO! 😱

Social housing is not FREE!

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 14:54

Zov · 05/06/2026 14:53

Whataboutery. 🙄

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But point made.

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Zov · 05/06/2026 14:53

coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 14:52

I wonder if the person renting this flat at 212k per month is needy and vulnerable?

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/148711640#/?channel=RES_LET

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Whataboutery. 🙄

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 14:52

Itchthescratch · 05/06/2026 14:51

Not everyone that rents is vulnerable or needy. What about those people? I have rented loads of times in my life and would never describe myself as either of those things.

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I wonder if the person renting this flat at 212k per month is needy and vulnerable?

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/148711640#/?channel=RES_LET

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Zov · 05/06/2026 14:52

Itchthescratch · 05/06/2026 14:51

Not everyone that rents is vulnerable or needy. What about those people? I have rented loads of times in my life and would never describe myself as either of those things.

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I didn't say everyone who rents is vulnerable or needy. 🙄