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Why so much hate for Landlords on MN?

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coulditbeme2323 · 04/06/2026 16:00

Who do LL's get so much hate on MN?

It seems so much more hate than there is any real life.

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coulditbeme2323 · 09/06/2026 13:25

SixtySomething · 09/06/2026 13:23

Fine but the point still holds about students and beastly landlords.
Are you a landlord by any chance?

I am, but never have been a student LL.

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SixtySomething · 09/06/2026 13:23

coulditbeme2323 · 09/06/2026 13:15

Not for many years.

Fine but the point still holds about students and beastly landlords.
Are you a landlord by any chance?

coulditbeme2323 · 09/06/2026 13:15

SixtySomething · 09/06/2026 13:09

Well, they used to then.

Not for many years.

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SixtySomething · 09/06/2026 13:09

coulditbeme2323 · 09/06/2026 13:08

Landlords don't hold deposits.

Well, they used to then.

coulditbeme2323 · 09/06/2026 13:08

SixtySomething · 09/06/2026 13:05

If you've ever heard the problems students get into with landlords who don't return deposits or deal with prolbems in the accommodation, you'd understand why people hate landlords!

Landlords don't hold deposits.

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SixtySomething · 09/06/2026 13:05

If you've ever heard the problems students get into with landlords who don't return deposits or deal with prolbems in the accommodation, you'd understand why people hate landlords!

Anarchy99 · 09/06/2026 00:14

And if it wasn’t for landlords, I would have been homeless for most of my adult life. I have never been in a position to buy a house so what would people suggest in that situation?

Its the usual spite against people who have more than others

Cloudysky81 · 08/06/2026 09:14

I wondered this, having not rented since being a student, until we ended up renting due to a break between selling and buying.

Absolutely awful experience, a poorly maintained property and they were unresponsive to requests for basic maintenance. Once we’d bought and given notice to move out, they seemed to think they could carry out viewings at anytime of day without any regard to our schedules.
They also tried to make massive deductions from the deposit that were completely unreasonable.

Thankfully due to be older/wiser, potentially more financially stable and not needing a reference it was relatively easy to deal with them, but I can see how they would bully people in more vulnerable positions.

coulditbeme2323 · 08/06/2026 09:09

TransportNerd · 07/06/2026 17:38

Nah, no-one who owns 13 properties is good.

I don't think anybody is trying to be good, it's a business investment.

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coulditbeme2323 · 08/06/2026 09:09

DefiantRabbit9 · 06/06/2026 22:18

Probably because the renting industry is perceived as extortionate and predatory.

LL's do not consider property a home. They consider it an investment. We all need a place to live and the more property is bought up by LL's the higher the prices go because of scarcity. LL can charge what they want for bare minimum and you're ultimately at their mercy. If your LL decides to sell up, you're out on your arse. Good luck and thanks for paying someone else's mortgage.

Of course Landlord's can't charge what they want.

The last property we let our was a one bed flat for £1250 - what do you think would have happened if I put it on the market for £2500?

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GeneralPeter · 08/06/2026 09:08

Friendlygingercat · 08/06/2026 02:03

Any ordinary person who is arrogant enough to refer to themselves as a "lord" in 2026 deserves to be hated. Its a relic of the feudal system. There is nothing wrong with the term owner or property owner which implies a commercial relationship. Landlord connotes a hierarchical social relationship which is completely inappropriate for the 21st century.

Time we dropped the old fashioned and classist terminology.

This is the bizarrest objection.

Next you are going to have to stop renters describing themselves as ants.

Anarchy99 · 08/06/2026 08:54

Friendlygingercat · 08/06/2026 02:03

Any ordinary person who is arrogant enough to refer to themselves as a "lord" in 2026 deserves to be hated. Its a relic of the feudal system. There is nothing wrong with the term owner or property owner which implies a commercial relationship. Landlord connotes a hierarchical social relationship which is completely inappropriate for the 21st century.

Time we dropped the old fashioned and classist terminology.

They aren’t being arrogant - it is the legal term for it.Landlord and Tenant Act etc.

What about pub landlords? Or landladies of guesthouses? Do you think they are arrogant?

It doesn’t bestow privilege upon them. It’s just a noun. Calm down.

Friendlygingercat · 08/06/2026 02:03

Any ordinary person who is arrogant enough to refer to themselves as a "lord" in 2026 deserves to be hated. Its a relic of the feudal system. There is nothing wrong with the term owner or property owner which implies a commercial relationship. Landlord connotes a hierarchical social relationship which is completely inappropriate for the 21st century.

Time we dropped the old fashioned and classist terminology.

TeddyWllowAndStorm · 07/06/2026 22:35

TransportNerd · 07/06/2026 17:38

Nah, no-one who owns 13 properties is good.

I own more and I’m fabulous. 💅

TransportNerd · 07/06/2026 17:38

Locutus2000 · 06/06/2026 21:17

Sounds like you are one of the good ones, it's a shame so many of your peers let the side down.

Nah, no-one who owns 13 properties is good.

DefiantRabbit9 · 06/06/2026 22:18

Probably because the renting industry is perceived as extortionate and predatory.

LL's do not consider property a home. They consider it an investment. We all need a place to live and the more property is bought up by LL's the higher the prices go because of scarcity. LL can charge what they want for bare minimum and you're ultimately at their mercy. If your LL decides to sell up, you're out on your arse. Good luck and thanks for paying someone else's mortgage.

Locutus2000 · 06/06/2026 21:17

caringcarer · 06/06/2026 20:58

I have 13 properties. I have to organise gas certificates and boiler serviced, occasional electric certificate, prepare contracts for new tenants including photos of every room, take gas and electric readings, print of How to rent booklets and LL check sheet and get signed by tenants, ensure EPC are in date and organise new ones every 5 years, deal with minor repairs and maintenance person, order new washing machines/ tumble dryers/fridge freezers removed old appliances and plumb in new ones, speak with tenants as I do all liaison and organise repairs myself, sort out insurance for each property, put deposits in deposit scheme, check share codes of non UK tenants to make sure they are in UK legally. Also keeping on top of smoke alarms and carbon dioxide alarms. On top buying Champaign or a voucher to any tenants who get married or has a baby. Also sorting out remortgage when 2 or 5 year fix expires. I also rotate who has a new kitchen, bathroom, carpets. Some tenants want to use their own washing machine so I have to put ours into storage. Plus many other little jobs including keeping accounts for tax. It's not a full time job but a lot of hours spent each month. Certainly not unearned.

Sounds like you are one of the good ones, it's a shame so many of your peers let the side down.

caringcarer · 06/06/2026 20:58

StandingDeskDisco · 05/06/2026 11:39

In what way are landlords "earning" the rent. That is a serious misuse of the word 'earning'.
They do a bit of paperwork each year, make a few calls to tradespeople to deal with repairs, etc. If you have one or two properties it is hardly a full time job.

Yet the tenants are working full time to pay the rent (or claiming housing benefit from the state, so the money goes from the state to the landlord via the tenant).

I have 13 properties. I have to organise gas certificates and boiler serviced, occasional electric certificate, prepare contracts for new tenants including photos of every room, take gas and electric readings, print of How to rent booklets and LL check sheet and get signed by tenants, ensure EPC are in date and organise new ones every 5 years, deal with minor repairs and maintenance person, order new washing machines/ tumble dryers/fridge freezers removed old appliances and plumb in new ones, speak with tenants as I do all liaison and organise repairs myself, sort out insurance for each property, put deposits in deposit scheme, check share codes of non UK tenants to make sure they are in UK legally. Also keeping on top of smoke alarms and carbon dioxide alarms. On top buying Champaign or a voucher to any tenants who get married or has a baby. Also sorting out remortgage when 2 or 5 year fix expires. I also rotate who has a new kitchen, bathroom, carpets. Some tenants want to use their own washing machine so I have to put ours into storage. Plus many other little jobs including keeping accounts for tax. It's not a full time job but a lot of hours spent each month. Certainly not unearned.

Boreded · 05/06/2026 22:04

coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 12:43

I am not sure you have understood what I am saying. I am firmly on the sides of Landlords.

The "I am not sure they do" was in response to the poster below - and I meant I am not sure they understand it is a financial risk."

You realise a landlord is taking on a massive amount of financial risk and so of course there needs to be a financial incentive.

Apologies, I thought you were taking the piss

HermioneHerman · 05/06/2026 21:50

coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 16:19

I did try with her!

You won't be able to get through to someone who says that "everyone wants a luxury property for free" is absolutely ridiculous and untrue, but counters with "take all landlords' properties away at the advertised sale price at the time because they've only spent £1k on it over 30 years".

I'm not a LL and I do believe there should be far more social housing AND that there are both plenty of nightmare LLs and awful tenants out there...but that really is one of the most stupid, ill-informed things I've ever read on MN. 🥴

saraclara · 05/06/2026 21:04

Itchthescratch · 05/06/2026 09:43

This isn't strictly true. The tenant has an obligation to make sure the house is reasonably ventilated which includes using available extractor fans etc but also opening windows where it's obviously sensible to do so. If opening a window requires adequate 'purge ventilation' then the landlord has no obligation to upgrade the kitchen with an extractor fan.

My mum's tenants (mine briefly when she died) had the most hideous black mould. It was a literal show house when the tenants moved in, and had double glazing with built in ventilation. For some reason they put in secondary glazing (it wasn't a noisy location, so goodness knows why) that covered the ventilation grilles. They also dried their laundry on the radiators which led to them going rusty, so basically they'd created the mould issue all by themselves. The agent told them at every inspection that they needed to allow ventilation, but they ignored her.

Of course I was the one who had to pay for it to be sorted before I could sell the place to pay mum's care debt.8

caringcarer · 05/06/2026 19:22

coulditbeme2323 · 05/06/2026 12:14

That's not why it costs them more.

LL also have to pay an additional 2 percent stamp duty.

FurierTransform · 05/06/2026 18:08

Landlord hate is mostly just politics.

Anarchy99 · 05/06/2026 17:48

This is like the ‘take the money from the billionaires’ threads and also the ‘my parent has lots of money but won’t give it all to me right now and has the nerve to want to use it themselves’.

It’s quite interesting to watch people trying to construct meaningful arguments when the gist of it is ‘it’s not FAIR’

randomchap · 05/06/2026 17:42

Because most of us have had bad experiences from shitty landlords.

Spurious reasons for keeping deposits
Lack of maintenance
Price gouging etc

On a less personal note, buy to let landlords pushing up house prices