Why so much hate for Landlords on MN?

You know how market rate is established though?

Because they hoard resources and then charge over the odds for them

How could it be as vocal? People won’t be marching down the street yelling I hate landlords irl

It's a perfectly reasonable example.

With more housing supply, rents would come down. Demonisation of landlords is reducing housing supply and forcing consolidation so that private equity increasingly owns what rentals there are.

The difference with the food safety legislation is it is enforced, and due to high competition, the supermarkets can't cut corners.

Anonymous forums always have extreme reactions.

As for people suggesting banning the practice:

www.greencoordinate.co.uk/motions/abolish-landlords/

I don't think anyone thinks being a landlord should be banned. But it should be massively more regulated than it is, like it is in many other parts of the world.

And I say this as a landlord myself. I'm a good one, so any legislation wouldn't impact me as it would just be forcing landlords to do the things I do anyway. But I'm regularly shocked to see how other landlords expect people to live.

Totally wrong example. In that example competition has helped keep prices down for consumers. With housing as demand (in many areas) outstrips supply, the competition is in the other direction and landlords exploit that by hiking and hiking rents.

Also supermarkets are regulated. They can't sell you moldy food at a huge mark up. They can't sell you nappies with razor blades in, or shampoo that burns your skin. Any even basic safety legislation to make sure tenanted properties are safe, not going to burn down, not overpopulated, not moldy - has seen huge organized pushback from landlords on a massive scale. Think about it. They are campaigning to say their right to make a profit is more important than the rights of children to not live in moldy homes.

The current HMO legislation is ridiculous and designed in such a way it doesn't apply to 99% of properties.

I agree op I’ve seen people saying all landlords are bad and landlording should be banned.

I mean where else are people meant to live if they can’t afford to buy and don’t have family who want them. Personally I was disowned by my family at 16 for being pregnant and would have lived in a homeless shelter forever if not for a landlord.

And he was genuinely a nice guy fixed everything and the rent wasn’t as crazy as it could have been.

I was listening to LBC on the renters rights bill and a man called in, complaining that his mortgage was too high and he needed freedom to be able to increase rent in line with the increase in interest in his interest only mortgage and he's retired so doesn't have spare income to cover the shortfall. He seemed to think this was a reasonable complaint. My first thoughts were why the bloody hell does a retired man have a property on an interest only mortgage that is so expensive to service that it can't be comfortably covered by the £1200 a month he was currently getting from his tenants?? This man had clearly made some very bad financial decisions but seemed to think it is the responsibility of tenants and the government to insulate him from them.

Generally people post of MN because they either want to moan or they want genuine advice. People don't generally need either of these things when their landlords are good.

It's the self pitying whinging and massive organized pushback on any kind of tenants rights including being forced to put in place basic standards for safe housing.

I actually am a landlord and am regularly appalled by other landlords. My property I rent is kept to the most lovely standards, I'd be happy to live there myself. But guess what, I don't expect to make an income off it - it just washes its own face and lucky me at the end of the mortgage term I have an asset that's paid for.

I think the expectations of landlords that with the cost of living situation they should be able to make a big profit off the monthly rent is totally unrealistic.

It makes as much sense as hating supermarkets for the commodification of food.

They make a profit too.

How dare they!!!

But you also don't expect starvation to be accepted. But homelessness is.

And housing has increased in value far far more than food.

Jealousy and lazy reasoning.

Many people have decided that they should be entitled to free luxury homes and that landlords somehow steal that opportunity from them. Ignoring that's it's a business and that being a landlord doesn't mean having "free money".

It's only landlords, other essentials like food, or even clothing etc are a business too, but because proportionally it cost less, they dont' see it that way.

Yes, quite. There’s a distinct lack of joined-up thinking on this. Getting paid for supplying food or healthcare is OK, but getting paid for providing a home is awful.

Like Tesco do? Evil!

And what about doctors, getting paid because people are sick. Terrible people.

The very thought of someone making money from supplying a basic need is abhorrent.

Exactly this. It’s like asking why people didn’t like the robber barons, or why Bezos and his fellow tech bros are so widely disliked.