Why so much hate for Landlords on MN?

I hate them when they are like the grabby daughter who posted last week who thought her parents were being scammed and the rent was something like 1500!!!
Or the land lord who was selling up and wanted to show the house when the tenant was still in place... totally intrusive .. (the tenant posting on here didn't get a great time)
Or the nosy old bag LL who would drop in and make comments and the tenant (who posted the other week ) was expected to stay in and wait for the LL to call round so some papers could be signed

I don't have an issue with LLs I have an issue with greedy , intrusive LLs who over step

You should get it installed. There is no reason a Victorian kitchen can’t be ventilated, it’s only made of brick!

so either way, serious problems from everyday activities are really rather the properties fault, not the occupant.

I have a extractor over the hob but if I've got all 4 rings on, it doesn't totally get rid of the heat/humidity.

But no, no other vents. It's a Victorian house and doesn't have a lot of the ventilation that a newer house would have.

Don’t you have kitchen vents?

being a landlord is a business. Whether it covers the cost of care doesn’t change that. It’s an additional job for the POA and they are certainly under no obligation to take it on.

My kitchen gets very damp if I cook a lot (I batch cook for the week). So yes I imagine if the room went unventilated, it would develop again. But I just crack the window.

When I moved in, I got a damp expert to come in and assess and he said it was just down to lack of ventilation and advised locking each window on the loosest catch which would create enough airflow to prevent damp. And he was right.

a lot of the time the care costs aren’t even covered by the rent of the property.

I wouldn’t in this instance call it a business

although I would say they are privileged to have that asset to use.

Acting in their interests doesn’t involve the POA taking on a business role, and one that involves a fair element of work, and taking on quite serious risk.

it doesn't oblige you to run any business that doesn’t already exist.

A house of good standard should not develop damp from cooking without the windows open. I would imagine most people don’t open windows whilst cooking, to be honest. I don’t.

Really? Well, my house was rented out by the previous owner before I bought it. Damp in the kitchen, one of the bedrooms and an area of the living room.

I cleaned the damp off by hand, ran a dehumidifier to reduce the humidity and now manage it by ventilating. (No idea how they managed to get damp in the kitchen. Who doesn't open the window when they're cooking?)Damp hasn't returned and I've lived here for 12 years since then without issue.

If I'd been a difficult tenant (like a friend of mine) I could have refused to ventilate and demanded my LL treat the damp. When actually, the damp problem was caused by the tenant.

Someone with POA has to act in the person's best interests. And renting the property creates income so that the person can pay for their care (so have a choice of care home) for as long as possible. Selling the house straight away means that the money will run out more quickly, at which point the council will likely move them to somewhere cheaper.

An attorney doesn't get to do what's easier for him/herself. They have to act in the other person's best interest.

There are a huge amount of people who will never be able to be home owners (unemployed, under employed, disability, aged out, living on benefits either totally or to some degree). There is a massive shortage of rental housing. Forcing landlords out isn't going to increase the likelihood of the groups listed above being able to buy. Therefore forcing landlords out of business is making it harder for the most vulnerable groups.

IF we want to enable housing security for those people, we're going to need a more left-wing government to encourage a massive increase in social housing.

But as we know, the UK isn't in favour of socialism and therefore we're not going to get more social housing. (And you can rant on about immigrants / migrants all you like but they aren't causing this problem. This problem started with the Tory sell-off of LA housing.)

So ultimately we need landlords. And better little landlords than big corporations. Little landlords won't have the power to oust tenants to facilitate massive rent hikes. Big corporations will.

There’s no such thing as reliable data in this country any more. It’s all skewed by the property-owning political class in these days of might is right. The renters I know were all in the same situation viz their multi-property owning landlords too.

If you don’t like the total lack of public trust for an Americanised country then bring back one that works for people not power.

That's another Mumsnet trope.

I was an accidental landlord. My mum died owning a rental property and leaving a vast amount of care debt. More than the value of the property. As her executor I was the very accidental landlord for 18 months, while probate and the legal situation regarding the debt was resolved. It was miserable. After 15 months, in order to sell to raise the money to pay the debt, I had to serve notice on the tenants. They were already in arrears, and left the property in an appalling state. It cost me thousands just to get it cleared. No profit was made in that period.

One frustrating day I was talking to the rental agent and said "I have no idea why anyone chooses to be a landlord". She replied "I'm a rental agent and I don't know why anyone chooses to be a landlord, either"

We don’t blame tenants for damp and mould anymore.

And I would question if you experienced so much issue with damp in most properties whether the problem was with the landlord...or you.

Totally wrong example. In that example competition has helped keep prices down for consumers
Supermarkets make massively more profits than the average landlords. If being a landlord is such a huge profit making business, why have so many suddenly decide to sell ...when the gov decided to treat all rental income as paid income, when they introduce rules that only penalise landlords.

If demand significantly out balances supply, it's because landlords are treated more and more as social landlords with very little to gain, so they get out of it.

Anecdote is not data.

When so many people will never be able to afford to buy a home of their own of course it causes bitterness when other people own multiple homes. Particularly as rents are ridiculously high all over the country.

It's not hard to understand that if you watch 'Homes under the Hammer' and see someone buying another 'investment' property and announcing that they already have 27 of these in their portfolio that a lot of viewers are thinking 'Wanker' to themselves?

None of my landlords had jobs, all had more than one property and all bar one was damp, over 20 years of handing my working wages to the baby boomer rich.

Data shows the majority of Landlords work. 45% of landlords own just one rental property.

Don't let facts ruin your narrative though...

We could bring back council housing, which is better economics anyway. Pay housing benefits to a landlord and public money goes into an individuals private pocket. Pay housing benefits to a council, and it recirculates as local services. This is why Britain is claimed to be poor now: because public money is flowing freely from the working taxpayers into the pockets of non working landlords. ( and I saw the anecdote upthread, and raise you my own, which is that most landlords don’t work and own many more than one property, which they run into the ground to maximise their profit).

Of course I do.

Landlords will be hated, regardless of how anyone might try to justify it. Don’t like it? Don’t be a landlord.

van living 🤣 no thank you how does that work if you have kids I’ll keep renting from a landlord thank you