To think all knives including religious ones should be banned, after what happened to Henry Nowak

Yes chefs do need to carry their own knives to shift actually - and gardeners need to carry their tools to work/allotments etc. too.

Chatgpt is not a valid source - perhaps you could ask it what source it used? It hallucinates all the time.

Also just to add that a lot of the 'sharps' I've known young people to carry with the intent of causing harm are not always a blade but would include things like screwdrivers or scissors etc. If someone is seeking to cause harm (or protect themselves as I'd say the majority of young people especially who carry a weapon see it as self protection rather than with any intent to seek out violence) they will find a way to do it even without a knife/blade specifically.

So it's a pointless exercise- what we actually need is more investment into the youth sector in a consistent way (chronic short term funding is no good), much better investment into the mental health, charity and social services sectors and better pathways into employment for those at risk from poverty. If you aren't addressing those things the rest is honestly pointless.

All knives? As others have said, chefs? Gardeners? The laws as it currently is states that you need to have a valid reason to have one, I believe, which is sensible. He wasn't legally carrying it - it's a lot bigger than the traditional knife most sikhs use.

The knife that Henry Nowak was stabbed with was not the religious Kirpan ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan ) which the assailant was also wearing elsewhere. It was a much larger and straight-bladed weapon that has nothing to do with the religious aspect, and was already illegal to carry. There is no new rule that could be introduced that would have applied in that case and prevented the tragedy.

No I don't think they should be banned, but we could have stricter rules eg Australia limits the size of a Kirpan to no more than 8.5cm long and it must be worn under clothes.

It would be a form of religious discrimination to ban it, it's one of the 5 very specific obligations of the Sikh faith

Can we also just recognise that a ceremonial blade was not used as a murder weapon... that was a lie used by the murderer.

In Scotland ceremonial blades are also worn and have been in a long time - sgian-dubh.

There's a world of difference between someone carrying a ceremonial blade and someone just having a blade on them. And I say this as someone who's worked with knife crime and with people who regularly carry blades.

The problem with this line of thinking is that there's been a huge knee jerk reaction from the lies told by digwa to avoid accountability being coopted to raise racial tensions. Digwa just had a blade because he wanted to have one and he intended to cause harm. It was nothing whatsoever to do with his religion. So why you'd punish all Sikh people is beyond me.

Chefs, fencers?

The fact that the first response looks for an exception shows why this would never work. There are far too many valid reasons to carry a knife that it would never work.

It's already illegal to carry pointed and bladed articles for no good reason, is it not?

I agree. I can’t see what possible excuse people have for carrying around a blade. Ban anything over a two inch penknife that is carried habitually