To think all knives including religious ones should be banned, after what happened to Henry Nowak

Yes...all knives, including those carried for religious or cultural reasons, should be banned in public in this country.

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Let's all be beige drones who all think and look the same. Ban everything else. That'll make us happier and safer.

Cobblers. Human difference and cultural nuance is one of the great joys of my life. Stop applying 10 seconds of thinking to complex and challenging issues and deciding your uneducated reckons will solve society's ills

Unless we create a teleport machine chefs, fencers and the many other professions (and hobbies like fishing, hunting) that use them, I am one of them, are going to have to carry them in public. the vast majority of them professions always do in a fairly discrete and sensible manner anyway

Most stabbings are done using knives that are illegal to carry anyway so it wouldn’t make much difference

I stopped wearing the bindi tikka on my forehead to blend in

You can wear a bindi and be part of a wider community, like you can wear the Sikh turban and/or the kara or for that matter the kirpan and be part of it. Why is blending in so important? Surely we should accept that people have different religious/cultural symbols and unless they are actually harmful, why do they need to 'blend in'?

The British (including the white ones) are a bunch of mongrels, in a really great way. The waves of people coming here from prehistory have made us what we are. Join in by all means, but losing your cultural identity is not necessary.

Op that was your choice to stop displaying your faith/ culture in certain ways in order to assimilate. The problem with what you're suggesting is that someone else should have decided for you which parts of your culture/ faith you should be allowed to keep and which you wouldn't be allowed to keep. And you'd get no say in the matter.

Maybe ban them again ? In bold type so people pay attention ?

Knives are banned you great prune.

I’m an artist on the way to work an in-person session for no pay. It’s purely for the collab. I am carrying multiple blades of various shapes and sizes as part of my work. They are all in cases because otherwise, ouch. Am I ok?

You cannot ban all knives, it's utterly ridiculous.

We need to focus on root causes, whether cultural, joblessness, poor education, lack of role models, lack of discipline in families and in schools.

In more than one recent case it has been found that the police and other authorities have received several warnings about people, which they have ignored, and that person has gone on to murder - Axel Rudekabana and Valdo Calocane being only the latest two. That total lack of any proper investigation and effective intervention what we need to clamp down on first and foremost.

The rise in knife crime is a symptom not a cause, and many knives used in crime are illegal anyway, banning them will change nothing except make life difficult for everyone else.

Re-reading the PP, you could actually understand that they themselves would personally be out enforcing the new world order - they didn't mention the police to be fair (although I presumed as well ....)

What if someone is self-employed and works alone?

Do you not think the police have better things to?

You are carrying a knife and you have a receipt to show it was bought that day- fine. You have a knife case and give me your restaurant phone number and I can check you’re on shift-fine. You have a knife and you’re carrying a birthday cake- fine.

Yet another thing for the police to be spending time one

Assuming the restaurant has a landline. And assuming the police officer can believe whoever answers the phone.

Looks like the serious thinkers are still at work.

Absolutely

You are carrying a knife and you have a receipt to show it was bought that day- fine. You have a knife case and give me your restaurant phone number and I can check you’re on shift-fine. You have a knife and you’re carrying a birthday cake- fine.

You have a knife because you always put it on when you get dressed -just in case. Not ok.

Maybe ban crossbows too ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4p4yllq1lo

We often have birthday cake at the park, not sure they have them freely available there!

How is a chef supposed to work if they can't carry their knives with them?

How are you supposed to carry knives home from the shops to use in the kitchen?

Knives crime is a problem and ceremonial knives are something to think about banning, but you need to apply a bit of common sense to these things.

They will take belts and shoelaces too. Should they be banned?

I couldn't bring chocolate coins in. WEAPONS.

Yes I’d ban both of these as well. And halal slaughter. If your religion requires your meat to be slaughtered in an inhumane way then you can become vegetarian.

Why I say habitually, there is a difference between a chef on their way to work versus getting dressed to go to Tesco and taking your knife with you. If the police could stop and search - find a knife and you say “I am a chef on my way to work- here’s my restaurant number to check” fine- if you say it’s just something I always carry- then I’m sorry that’s not on.

The trouble with this type of knee jerk reaction is that it only inconveniences those of us who carry a knife that we need.

Those who wish to do harm with a knife will continue to carry them illegally just as they do now.

So what jellycat ceremonial knives ?