To be totally APPALLED by how Robinson referred to Henry Nowak in his “speech” in Southampton on Tuesday?

Don’t blame me, it was your rather ludicrous claim that you couldn’t back. Eastern Europe is a big place and Henry Nowak’s dad moved here many years ago.

I’m sure Farage has said plenty of unpleasant things, you don’t need to make stuff up.

Mind you, as someone else pointed out, maybe Nige was too busy accusing Henry Nowak's relatives of eating swans.

I don’t need to read it again. I’ve watched the video. It’s very clear from your posts what your agenda is. Never a prejudiced remark that you don’t try to somehow explain away.

Mind you, as someone else pointed out, maybe Nige was too busy accusing Henry Nowak's relatives of eating swans.

This is PPs quote. Which bit of ‘Henry Nowaks relatives’ are you struggling with?

No I'm really not. I have said that Nigel Farage referred to Eastern Europeans, and that Poland is in Eastern Europe. You are really struggling with your reading comprehension today aren't you?

He said what he said. He didn’t say “except those people”. You seem to want to keep minimising bigoted comments about groups of people. Why is that?

Are you implying that everyone in Eastern Europe is related?? That’s a weird claim.

It’s called using a historical present tense which is often used to emphasise a looking and make the account more immediate.

Maybe try reading it again and pretend that it’s someone else as you clearly have a huge issue with TR that is affecting your interpretation of it. He says he’s spoken about it for 20 years and says ‘every time, I’ve seen it my whole life’ - that is clearly referring to a broader set of events than just Henry’s murder last December.

I’m sure you would also find it helpful if you could look at his whole speech as I’m sure that will give you further context.

I mean, two tier policing is written into the police guidance so it’s not like they can realistically deny it.

”I’ve spoken about this for 20 years. To be a victim of a race gang, i.e., Pakistani Muslims, will be beating up a white kid, the police will turn up, and they will jump on the white kid. Every time, I’ve seen it my whole life.”

Well it was correct - NF referred to 'Eastern Europeans' (as a whole), and this encompasses Poland.

I don’t know how on earth you read that into my post. A case of wilful misunderstanding, I expect.

As for the original issue, how anyone can NOT think that inserting ‘fucking’ into the name of a blameless victim, is despicable, is beyond me.

TBH I sometimes think it’d be a good idea for MNers to undergo some sort of reading comprehension test, before they’re allowed to post.

Give it up OP.

You lost.

It was PPs rather fanciful claim 🤷‍♀️

It was PPs rather fanciful claim 🤷‍♀️

Oh he didn’t mean those Eastern Europeans, thanks for clarifying.

I haven’t derailed my thread. I’ve responded to your point about the plumber - who you introduced to the thread.

You keep deflecting, not me. I’ve said on a few occasions that my point is in the OP, not a wider commentary on Henry Nowak’s murder but posters like you keep dragging other issues into it.

It’s wearying to read your posts because you jump all over the place, don’t answer questions and bring in other issues or other people eg the plumber.

How does the phrase “will be” (future tense) in relation to Pakistani Muslims refer to multiple events that have happened in the past as you claim?

What is sad is that Harry's parents were disrespected. Harry's death was preventable and a terrible mistake by police.
However what is becoming more ugky is his death being used by TR and NF to manipulate people to do their dirty work.
NF and TR don't care about tbe misguided followers. They only care about power and money.
They woumd send the country back years. They do not support equal lay for women. They want to privatise the NHS, get rid of welfare...just look at the state tbe councils run by Reform are in. It is steaight out of Mosley's guide book. He incited tbe poor mainly agrucultural workers to become black shirts and do his bidding...they gained nothing from it. The wealthy NF and TR would not cross the road for the average person.
I remeber the riots and rise of the National Front in the 70s it was horrific.

Maybe you need to look up how many countries there are in Eastern Europe and note that Poland is only one of them.

So he didn’t say that Henry Nowaks relatives were stealing swans as per your rather fanciful and clearly fabricated claim, did he.

Well it’s good to know you have no other objections to the points he made.

I guess he’s getting to mainstream opinion now.

That’s not my point, and you brought up the plumber.

It’s ok to be offended on behalf of Carol Vorderman or any woman who is on the receiving end of stomach-churning misogyny. After all, you’re here apparently offended by my OP.

It’s ok - just own “being offended” but please stop bringing in “and another thing, and another thing…” to deflect from the point of my OP.

Thanks.

Thanks for getting to the bottom of that little mystery, @bloooooberry .

I'd been trying to find it too, but as virtually every detail was wrong, it was no surprise that I was unsuccessful. If only people would fact check before posting stuff, there might not be so much inflammatory shite on here.

Given that TR lost the libel case, perhaps @MNHQ should consider deleting the post that used a complete fiction to try and stir up hate.