To be totally APPALLED by how Robinson referred to Henry Nowak in his “speech” in Southampton on Tuesday?

YANBU @Whereismyjoiedevivre, but it is only to be expected from Tommy Robinson. Hes a racist grifter with no class who hates Britain.

So White Privilege just a theory in your eyes and has never existed and does not exist in reality ? Either you have very little knowledge of history and reality or you have been fed a very warped version.

I'd never heard of White Fragility. Ive just looked it up though.

I have quite a simple view point. That all people are equal, and should be treated equally, regardless of skin colour and ethnicity. I know this h hasnt happened historically and doesn't happen now. But it's what we should strive for.

This 100%

Well said. These TR/Farage/daily mail fans are so quick to jump on people ready to spout 'white privilege' as though a) it doesnt exist anymore b) that it should. One can't debate with idiots though...

In terms of your absolute question, is it appalling how the victim was referred to?

YANBU

In terms of the narrative around this, its right that its raised. Its just a shame that due to a vacuum caused by virtue signalling, the only people raising it are deeply unpleasant racists

Where are the people on the left (Im one of them) coming out to say, the indoctrination in public services (not just the police) about victimhood and believing someone just because they fit a particular demographic (that includes women as well), centering perception of offence/abuse over actual evidence of abuse, is causing people to treat clients unfairly and with judgement.

He was murdered. And your main concern is a swear word?
Let me guess you’re also “outraged”by the protests but cheered along the George Floyd riots ? Public figures are racist for speaking out about Henry nowak but in 2020 they were racist if they didn’t take the knee for an American convict

It seems people are finally waking up to the fact “white privilege” is complete bullshit

Totally agree. I also work with Police, Social services and NHS and I would say my experience has mostly been very positive, that is over 30 years experience. Attitudes and policies have changed and for the better. There will sadly always be exceptions to the rule.
I rememeber the riots in tbe 70's and 80's and the growth of the National Front. It was horriblw to see and I hoped never to see it again.

Completely agree op. The usual names are here of course to deflect with the accusation that if you’re concerned about this you don’t care.

Meanwhile, it’s clear they don’t care about anything more than driving division and harming ‘the left’. Precisely the same glee we see in photos of TR broadly grinning.

Of course white privilege exists still

It exists from birth
https://birthrights.org.uk/campaigns-research/racial-injustice/

and it exits in the justice system:
Anti-black discrimination systemic in Met - report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lq711n2e2o

The appalling death of a young man who was then handcuffed and treated like perpetrator is horrific. I am not a TR supporter. I think that that there is two tier policing and this event shows that. I agree with NF on this and I think deflecting to focus on what he or TR says ignores what happens.

Why are people choosing to conflict what OP is trying to convey?

This isn't about what happened. It's about the use of an offensive word in relation to a victim's name, for a personal purpose that has no place in this situation.

Sadly, Fuck has now become so common place, and indeed, often used to make the person using it to reinforce their own importance that it's no surprise.

I find it extremely distasteful too OP, but I just hate how people include it now in every sentence as normal speech. It's not a nice word and yeah, I would be really angry if it was used to refer to my children especially in the context of them being victims.

⬆️ this x a million

And yet here you are, on this thread.

I couldn't agree more. The likes of Robinson and Farage have jumped on this to push their fascist views. The poor young man and his family have not been respected. ...to try and say there is no such as white privilage is rubbish.

On a forum of all places.

You are absolutely not being unreasonable, Henry's parents specifically said they didn't want their son's death to be exploited by the likes of TR in this manner but TR doesn't seem to care, much like a lot of people on this thread.

It just shows how they don’t care about the death of Henry or his family at all.

Anyone who supports going against a grieving family’s wishes are the lowest of the low.

Family and friends have said how inclusive Henry was and how many Sikh and other races/culture friends he had.
He was a leftist and actively spoke about how he dislike people like TR and their extremist views.

What a total disrespect for his memory for these idiots to be getting off on this.

Cute.

Riled Up Man Swears Shocker 🙄

If he's not to your taste, just ignore him. Just as I ignore whining leftists who believe they hold moral superiority over everyone else.

TR is utter scum and the events in Southampton are predictably disgraceful. What happened to Nowak was appalling, using it as an excuse for racism - which his family have said he'd hate in his name - is disgusting.

100% the left are the most tyrannous of them all...
Believe what WE BELIEVE or you should die... eh ok...
left- OUR VIEWS ARE THE MOST VALID IF YOU DONT AGREE YOU ARE SO WRONG YET WE ARE SO LIBERAL. Irony

I get you OP. I agree that inserting the word 'fucking' into the middle of Henry's name was lacking respect for him.

I often feel uncomfortable in these situations where a high profile murder victim becomes a media frenzy with their photo splashed all over the place, CCTV footage of them scrutinised, and half the population having an opinion on a complete stranger's tragedy. To me it seems so intrusive, but then I'm a private person who doesn't live my normal life putting images of myself out there. But maybe if I were the victim I wouldn't care (although I wouldn't be aware of it, obviously).

In this case I think too much attention is being given to the police's actions, which is directing focus away from Digwa himself. He knew he had stabbed Henry but he stood there next to the police and didn't alert them to Henry's injuries. Utterly reprehensible.

I totally agree @Whereismyjoiedevivre

Yes it may be "semantics" to some, but it is the young man's name and to add 'fucking' in the middle of it is just disgusting and totally disrespectful.

TR showed a total lack of respect by not addressing Henry by his proper, given name. Nothing more was needed.

We get your point. We just think it’s stupid and irrelevant.

Another grifter would take his place. There’s a lot of money in hate