To be totally APPALLED by how Robinson referred to Henry Nowak in his “speech” in Southampton on Tuesday?

You believe somebody honestly is upset at a swear word being assigned when naming Henry? The thread isn't going as she hoped.

Does anyone truly believe that either Tommy Robinson or Nigel Farage care about Henry Nowak? If they did, they would respect his family's wishes. Instead, they are using his death for political gain and people are falling for it.

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George Floyd was murdered by a police officer (american police being notoriously institutionally racist)

Henry Nowak was not murdered by the police. He was murdered by a psychopath. Yes, the police were massively incompetent and negligent.

They are the not the same scenarios so why compare them? Educate yourself re (male) white privilege. It does still exist, even though it absolutely should not exist.

Lee Rigby parents' did the same. Have you really thought why? I'm not saying both sets of parents don't think their sons' barbaric murderers should be cited to evidence the country's massive problem/s. However, it makes it easier for Starmer to use it against Farage, who, as an MP, has every right to respond to the societal circumstances. Deflection is done for the greater good.

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WTF?

OP gave an example to explain her point as many people misunderstood her initial post. How is that an example of jumping the shark?

Leaving aside the point TR was making, whether you agree or disagree, I agree that it was an inappropriate and highly disrespectful way of referring to a recently murdered young man. His poor family.

Sorry to say as I'm sure this will hit home for a few. But those who deny the existence of white privilege are generally white people who are dissatisfied with how their own life has turned out and are looking for anyone else to blame. Sadly they can't take accountability for their own failures.

If you're inclined to respond to my comment denying this, I'm talking about you.

Your grandfather fought against fascism to see it now arising from the left, I agree. Many lost military lives were in vain when those very men would be treated unfavourably now. That is why veterans' societies have so many volunteers while the government are prioritising others.

George Floyd’s death and Henry Nowak’s death are completely different.

If you are outraged by Henry Nowak’s death then you must also have been outraged (even more so) by George Floyd’s death.

Anyone who attended the protests for Henry Nowak’s death should have also attended the protests for the BLM movement and supported those taking the knee, considering it was about racial injustice amongst the police force - or do you only care if the victim is white?

No one with an ounce of intelligence would condone any violent protests.

But the difference in this situation is that the grieving family have begged people to not disrespect them and Henry by exploiting his death for political gain or to create division.

Anyone who actually cares about the death of Henry Nowak, would not go against his family’s wishes.
Anyone supporting these protests or TR does not care about the death of Henry Nowak.

Wow, really?? Nearly all the women in my life are more aggressive than I am.

So maybe he said "fucking" inthe wrong place, might have been better as Hampshire "fucking" Police but it doesnt make poor Henry not dead in a pool of blood under arrest does it?

What rape gangs are those?

They’re not arguing about semantics….rather for decency and respect. Farage’s and Robinson's reactions to this awful happening are vile and shameful.

Mine was at the liberation of Auschwitz and the concentration camps. He'd have been utterly disgusted by Farage and TR. He saw the end result of fascism.

I don’t understand why anyone is questioning it after the rape gangs and now this.

People's cars were set on fire - people who had nothing to do with any of this. It's just the usual racists out shit-stirring and kicking off.

I do question why. My grandfather never fully recovered from the injuries he got fighting fascists. I'm relieved that he's no longer around to see what's happening to this country.

I disagree. I think it shows exactly the sort of man he is. It's the sheer contempt for Nowak's own opinions and those of his parents, all he sees him as is a political football.

I wouldn’t have liked it if it was my son. Tommy was just using this as a platform opportunity, this after Henry’s poor family asked for his death not to cause more discontent.
A peaceful protest or vigil would have been more in keeping. Locals were scared in their homes, having had their property damaged, and were then out sweeping the streets outside their homes afterwards 😢

Couldn't have said this better - the people complaining about Robinson and Farage 'riling people up' are getting riled up themselves feeding into this..

Just ignore the lot of them - that includes Farage, Starmer, Mahmood and all of the other parasites.

Im not a fan of the thug, but I do think you have hugely misunderstood unfortunately. There are so many things that could be used to discredit TR. His use of a swear word to punctuate a sentence is very weak one and just looks like youre grasping at straws.

I certainly would not want my child’s name in Yaxley-Lennon’s mouth or to be used to stir up more trouble. If Henry Nowak’s family have explicitly asked for this then it’s very disrespectful of Y-R and Farage but not particularly surprising either.

It’s the constant use of 4-letter words on this site that puts me off MN. I thought women were better than this - at least had a better grasp of English vocabulary and didn’t have to ape male lowlifes.