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To be totally APPALLED by how Robinson referred to Henry Nowak in his “speech” in Southampton on Tuesday?

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Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:22

I’ve just seen a clip of this in a Guardian article on the main agitators in Southampton on Tuesday.
TR refers to Henry Nowak in this way: “White privilege?! Does Henry swear word beginning with F Nowak look as if he had white privilege when he was lying on the floor?”
He then smirks as he looks down, clearly proud of himself for delivering such an eloquent speech [sarcasm].
I’m beyond disgusted by how the name of this beautiful young man, who has lost his life in the most brutal way, was used in such a disrespectful way in order to rouse a rabble and boost TR’s ego.
AIBU to say that over the last two days TR, NF and their ilk are really showing us who they are and what motivates them?

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andthat · 04/06/2026 10:50

Jellox · 04/06/2026 10:29

George Floyd’s death and Henry Nowak’s death are completely different.

If you are outraged by Henry Nowak’s death then you must also have been outraged (even more so) by George Floyd’s death.

Anyone who attended the protests for Henry Nowak’s death should have also attended the protests for the BLM movement and supported those taking the knee, considering it was about racial injustice amongst the police force - or do you only care if the victim is white?

No one with an ounce of intelligence would condone any violent protests.

But the difference in this situation is that the grieving family have begged people to not disrespect them and Henry by exploiting his death for political gain or to create division.

Anyone who actually cares about the death of Henry Nowak, would not go against his family’s wishes.
Anyone supporting these protests or TR does not care about the death of Henry Nowak.

Excellent post @Jellox

BlakeCarrington · 04/06/2026 10:47

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I agree with this. Plus your focus on swear words is weird. Personally I’m more concerned about the innocent young lad dying while the police gave not a single fuck. (Oh nooo, sweary words again).

Goldenbear · 04/06/2026 10:47

Owlsintheforest · 04/06/2026 09:46

You're being unreasonable because your anger is displaced. We should be angry at the way this poor young man was treated, not at the words of someone who is angry about it... Truthfully, I think people like you are part of the problem, you're so upset about the words of the likes of Farage and Robinson that it deflects from the actual issue at hand.

Just to note, I dislike Farage, Robinson, Starmer - the lot of them so I ignore them. My concerns are with the failed system that lead to a young man being brutally killed and disbelieved.

If you are done with politics, how do you expect systems to change, issues to be addressed, via lawlessness?

Dollymylove · 04/06/2026 10:47

@Jellox the only people outraged aoiut Floyd's death were the shrieking lefties, while the rest of us looked on incredulously.
Do you think their would have been riots if it had been a white drug addled criminal who threatened a pregnant woman with a gun, instead of a black one?

Locutus2000 · 04/06/2026 10:47

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:02

How dare new posters join who think differently to you.

Funny how all the new accounts are spouting the same shit, isn't it?

The astro-turfing, gaslighting, misinformation and straw-manning OTT is something else.

What sort of person gets so much satisfaction from whipping up a murder which actually happened nearly six months ago.

Riots. You fuckers won't be happy until there are riots. You are not new and the Great British Public will see you off again, just like every time.

Bertiebiscuit · 04/06/2026 10:47

Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:35

Imagine your 18 year old child is called Sally Potter.

Imagine she’s brutally murdered and a horrifying clip of her final moments broadcast for everyone to see.

Imagine the country’s most controversial political rabble rouser hijacking her murder for his own reputational gain and making a speech at a protest referring to her as

“Sally Fucking Potter”

How would you feel? Is this acceptable?

Tbh i would be somewhat comforted that others could be so angry about my suffering and loss

Ilovecrispytofu · 04/06/2026 10:45

PortSalutPlease · 04/06/2026 09:37

The only thing that matters in all of this is that Henry Nowak’s grieving family explicitly asked for Tommy Ten Names, Farage and their ilk not to exploit Henry’s death this way, and they have ignored it.

Completely agree!

AsItRains · 04/06/2026 10:45

To paraphrase Norm Macdonald -
‘They told me the worst part of Henry Nowack murder was the how the right wing politicised it!’

‘And I disagreed... I thought it was that he bleed to death while the police arrested him because the police choose to prioritise bogus charges of racism made by his murderer’

Waitingfordoggo · 04/06/2026 10:44

Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:35

Imagine your 18 year old child is called Sally Potter.

Imagine she’s brutally murdered and a horrifying clip of her final moments broadcast for everyone to see.

Imagine the country’s most controversial political rabble rouser hijacking her murder for his own reputational gain and making a speech at a protest referring to her as

“Sally Fucking Potter”

How would you feel? Is this acceptable?

Totally agree. It’s not the point he’s making that’s offensive- it’s the use of a swear word in the middle of the victim’s name. It doesn’t come across well at all.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:44

PenelopePinkerton · 04/06/2026 10:42

Unfortunately his family have no influence over this as it is a political issue.

Exactly.

Bunnyofhope · 04/06/2026 10:44

Are you aware that the police ask the family of the bereaved to say that they want no violence in the aftermath of these crimes?
Do you believe the poor family just stood there and said the first thing that came into their head? Or is it more likely it had been pre agreed with police and legal teams?

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:43

Jellox · 04/06/2026 10:40

Are you seriously suggesting that these grieving families have said this purely to make people like Kier Starmer more popular???

Do you seriously think these families have any headspace to care about anything apart from getting through the day without their loved one who was taken from them so young.

I cannot believe you’ve actually implied that.
Have a word with yourself.

It is because they didn't have headspace I suggest how vulnerable they would be. Your first sentence is too ridiculous to address. Key words, I said, for the greater good. I also don't believe Starmer was PM during the murder of Lee Rigby.

SwatTheTwit · 04/06/2026 10:43

Unfortunately TR and NF are frothing at their mouths at the opportunity of using this absolute tragedy to score imaginary points and rile people up.

Wishing14 · 04/06/2026 10:43

I feel like I have the intelligence to focus on what people say rather than how they say it. And he’s right in many things (not everything).

Jellox · 04/06/2026 10:42

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 04/06/2026 10:36

Does anyone truly believe that either Tommy Robinson or Nigel Farage care about Henry Nowak? If they did, they would respect his family's wishes. Instead, they are using his death for political gain and people are falling for it.

Exactly!!

Anyone who supports them does not care about Henry at all.

It’s embarrassing that people are pretending to care about Henry’s death, whilst also going directly against his family’s wishes and what would have been his own wishes too.

PenelopePinkerton · 04/06/2026 10:42

PortSalutPlease · 04/06/2026 09:37

The only thing that matters in all of this is that Henry Nowak’s grieving family explicitly asked for Tommy Ten Names, Farage and their ilk not to exploit Henry’s death this way, and they have ignored it.

Unfortunately his family have no influence over this as it is a political issue.

viking11 · 04/06/2026 10:41

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:37

You are falling for the opposite.

Er kettle black.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:41

Mapleandleaves · 04/06/2026 10:38

They didn't actually do so well. They didn't meet their own expectations. They lost in Gorton and Denton despite fielding a well known candidate. Hence why they've chosen an unknown racist, mysogynistic plumber in Makersfield. No well known candidate wants to take the risk of losing and being embarrassed in the way that Goodwin was.

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Oh yes, the plumber that's now the target of white middle class bubble living lefties. Well nobody saw that one coming.

Jellox · 04/06/2026 10:40

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:34

Lee Rigby parents' did the same. Have you really thought why? I'm not saying both sets of parents don't think their sons' barbaric murderers should be cited to evidence the country's massive problem/s. However, it makes it easier for Starmer to use it against Farage, who, as an MP, has every right to respond to the societal circumstances. Deflection is done for the greater good.

Are you seriously suggesting that these grieving families have said this purely to make people like Kier Starmer more popular???

Do you seriously think these families have any headspace to care about anything apart from getting through the day without their loved one who was taken from them so young.

I cannot believe you’ve actually implied that.
Have a word with yourself.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:40

Bluehouse14 · 04/06/2026 10:35

George Floyd was murdered by a police officer (american police being notoriously institutionally racist)

Henry Nowak was not murdered by the police. He was murdered by a psychopath. Yes, the police were massively incompetent and negligent.

They are the not the same scenarios so why compare them? Educate yourself re (male) white privilege. It does still exist, even though it absolutely should not exist.

Educate yourself - one of the most patronising lines ever used. BLM thrust violence on society during Covid. Wonder how many if you were vocal then in that drumming up of hate and division. Why is it only black people who are allowed to rise up against prejudice?

Mapleandleaves · 04/06/2026 10:38

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 09:32

Farage and Robinson coukd stand up and not be as pragmatic but pander to the liberals. They would still be slated. The fact that Reform did so well in the LEs should be making you question why. Nah, dig in more like Starmer and then moan when Reform progress.

They didn't actually do so well. They didn't meet their own expectations. They lost in Gorton and Denton despite fielding a well known candidate. Hence why they've chosen an unknown racist, mysogynistic plumber in Makersfield. No well known candidate wants to take the risk of losing and being embarrassed in the way that Goodwin was.

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 04/06/2026 10:38

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:36

You believe somebody honestly is upset at a swear word being assigned when naming Henry? The thread isn't going as she hoped.

Do you think that Tommy Robinson genuinely cares about Henry Nowak and his family? I think the swear word is just one of many ways he's shown that he doesn't care at all.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:37

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 04/06/2026 10:36

Does anyone truly believe that either Tommy Robinson or Nigel Farage care about Henry Nowak? If they did, they would respect his family's wishes. Instead, they are using his death for political gain and people are falling for it.

You are falling for the opposite.

PGmicstand · 04/06/2026 10:36

PortSalutPlease · 04/06/2026 09:37

The only thing that matters in all of this is that Henry Nowak’s grieving family explicitly asked for Tommy Ten Names, Farage and their ilk not to exploit Henry’s death this way, and they have ignored it.

Yes, this is the thing that I find most disturbing.
They talk about protecting women and children but have been strangely silent about Stephen McCullagh, who faked a livestream whilst he murdered his pregnant spouse.
BOTH these issues are appalling. The common denominator is that the murder was perpetrated by a violent man.
And it's men who are highlighting one specifically, despite being asked NOT to, for their own gain politically. The ONS shows that 77% of all males prosecuted for indictable offences have been white.
https://theworlddata.com/crime-statistics-uk-by-race/ also shows similar, more recent data.

I'm concerned with the bias in how this terrible situation has been addressed.

Crime Statistics in UK by Race 2026 | Key Facts - The World Data

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https://theworlddata.com/crime-statistics-uk-by-race/

NEGUY82 · 04/06/2026 10:36

bloooooberry · 04/06/2026 10:32

Sorry to say as I'm sure this will hit home for a few. But those who deny the existence of white privilege are generally white people who are dissatisfied with how their own life has turned out and are looking for anyone else to blame. Sadly they can't take accountability for their own failures.

If you're inclined to respond to my comment denying this, I'm talking about you.

Yep, a bunch of white (usually males) angry that something that's purely an accident of their birth doesn't grant them the same start in life it once did. Thing is life is crap now BECAUSE of people like Nigel Farage, he isn't the answer people like him are the problem - close the wealth inequality gap and life will get better.