Political badges should be banned from NHS uniforms

Yes it was a policy that customers should be able to get Welsh language service, but not all employees were Welsh speaking.

That’s not a political statement, FFS! That is relevant information to customers/patients, just like wearing a badge indicating you have sign language.

is speaking a language now a political POV?

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

I am talking about a creeping attitude which is very dangerous

Respectable people felt uncomfortable? Witch burnt.
Southern States US women felt uncomfortable? Black man lynched.
Full siblings felt uncomfortable? Half sibling beaten or put out.
Etc.

Comfort does not trump all and it tends to serve repression

Personally I feel uncomfortable in a place where people are denied their religious symbols, or their visible welcome to queer minorities. At risk, even, in a society which suppresses protest about war.

I suspect this has come about due to the, ‘bring your whole self to work’ initiatives.

I do agree with the idea of not displaying political messages via the use of badges and lanyards but then you crash straight into another ideology by doing so which is those who use their lanyards to express their sexuality or disability. I feel like all of these expressions of self are in the same melting point and once you outlaw one you are potentially going to have to outlaw them all.

Was it a policy where you worked that customers could speak Welsh if they wanted to? If it was a policy then there would be no need for badges.

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

Why? If this is a freedom of expression issue, why should a staff member be bound by what their colleagues think is acceptable?

And why ask the workers rather than the patients?

And would you go with a simple majority view, or is a sufficient minority objection enough?

And nationally? Or is each NHS trust or site running such consultations?

And is running such consultations the best use of NHS resources?

As your contribution is (now) a process one, I’m interested what the process is.

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

Apparently that’s okay I think. Better for people to die from feeling intimidated at seeking medical care than a grown adult be expected to have their political views ‘repressed’. I think that’s the gist.

I do not work in the NHS.
My view is to ask the workers first.

I am not ducking the question. I am saying I do not go in making demands beyond the work being done.

The rest, e.g. what is hate speech or socially retrogressive, is not for me to decide as an individual though I may have views. It needs to be up for debate.

My position in this forum's debate is holding to human variety and trust.

Ok so let's suppose the workers say yes.

But it makes some nhs users very upset.

What then?

I do not work in the NHS.
My view is to ask the workers first.

I do not work in the NHS.
My view is to ask the workers first.

I am not ducking the question. I am saying I do not go in making demands beyond the work being done.

The rest, e.g. what is hate speech or socially retrogressive, is not for me to decide as an individual though I may have views. It needs to be up for debate.

My position in this forum's debate is holding to human variety and trust.

Granted, it's not for either of us to decide.

But what's your view?

White Power badges permitted on NHS staff. Yes or no?

I am not ducking the question. I am saying I do not go in making demands beyond the work being done.

The rest, e.g. what is hate speech or socially retrogressive, is not for me to decide as an individual though I may have views. It needs to be up for debate.

My position in this forum's debate is holding to human variety and trust.

You are ducking the question. This thread is effectively 'what should the etiquette be', or 'what rules should the people in charge of the place enforce'.

You are arguing for wide latitude on grounds of free expression, but don't want to defend staff wearing White Power badges.

Or maybe you will defend it -- will you?