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Political badges should be banned from NHS uniforms

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Ihatetomatoes · 04/06/2026 08:28

New report says political badges such as Pro Palestine shouldn't be worn on NHS uniforms. It's led to increased antisemitism and fear amongst Jewish patients.

Also NHS uniforms not to be worn on protests.

This report makes a number of suggestions and in my opinion must be implemented. All political badges off NHS uniforms. No NHS uniforms on protests such as pro Palestine. It contributes to racism and fear.

The NHS should treat all patients equally and individuals political opinions shouldn't be pinned on their uniforms.

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AlphaApple · 04/06/2026 13:09

Totally agree that people should not wear political symbols at work in the NHS.

Some causes and their symbols are not overtly political but can be interpreted as such, and that can be a bit more complex. However, I do generally question people who feel the need to wear symbols on their clothing or in their email signatures. Just turn up and do your job. Express your values and beliefs in your own time.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:08

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:07

No it isn't, public sector workers serve all of the community. They should not be making their own views more important than that. Suppose I had a badge that made my opinion on Kashmir obvious. And customers thought the opposite, would they trust my professional opinion?

I would. I would trust the words on your medical certificate. I would trust the Hippocratic Oath.

MsGreying · 04/06/2026 13:08

Several taxis locally have some similar looking stickers on.

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:08

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:04

Good on her.

Then she can carry on being sent to prison can't she?

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:07

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:03

Feeling lectured by a badge is ludicrous.
If medical personnel harangued patients or pointed at their cross / aum / magen David / rainbow, that would be wrong.

No it isn't, public sector workers serve all of the community. They should not be making their own views more important than that. Suppose I had a badge that made my opinion on Kashmir obvious. And customers thought the opposite, would they trust my professional opinion?

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:06

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:04

noticeable that it doesn't say why she was ordered to pay costs and compensation to a radio station?

See collectives beyond individuals
https://cymdeithas.cymru/en/english

English | Cymdeithas yr Iaith

English Side - Cymdeithas yr Iaith - We are a group of people who campaign for the Welsh language and the communities of Wales.

https://cymdeithas.cymru/en/english

GeneralPeter · 04/06/2026 13:06

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:48

Disability is extremely politicised.

War also makes a lot of people disabled, so I can understand health workers protesting war.

What about protesting disabled people?

Hundreds of millions of people believe disability reflects sinfulness in a previous life.

War is a major cause of disability. So is genetically defective people breeding.

Wouldn’t protesting that be for the common good?

(You might think these views are abhorrent, which of course is why I’ve used them. Why not have them on NHS badges though?)

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:04

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:02

noticeable that it doesn't say why she was ordered to pay costs and compensation to a radio station?

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:04

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:04

She refused to pay costs and compensation, and was therefore in contempt of court.

Good on her.

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:04

She refused to pay costs and compensation, and was therefore in contempt of court.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:03

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 12:53

This thread has really become ridiculous. I'm sorry, but it has.
Public sector workers should deal fairly with everyone they come into contact with. Expressing an opinion of a political nature isn't doing that. I didn't lecture my customers on my political beliefs, I took great care not to express those opinions, I would like the same courtesy in return
My workplace wasn't worse for me because I didn't do that, it was better. Respecting the opinion of others by not forcing those opinions on others makes the workplace better.

Feeling lectured by a badge is ludicrous.
If medical personnel harangued patients or pointed at their cross / aum / magen David / rainbow, that would be wrong.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:02

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/06/2026 12:56

We are not in the 1970's if you haven't noticed.

Here is one from 2026 archif.cymdeithas.cymru/news/gwenno-back-aberystwyth-after-being-released-jail

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:01

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 12:53

This thread has really become ridiculous. I'm sorry, but it has.
Public sector workers should deal fairly with everyone they come into contact with. Expressing an opinion of a political nature isn't doing that. I didn't lecture my customers on my political beliefs, I took great care not to express those opinions, I would like the same courtesy in return
My workplace wasn't worse for me because I didn't do that, it was better. Respecting the opinion of others by not forcing those opinions on others makes the workplace better.

I completely agree. i used to work in an area where foxhunting was a massively popular activity which I was massively against. The NHS employed me to provide clinical services and not to express my opinions about the beliefs and behaviour of my patients.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:59

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:57

Okay I’m out - you clearly are happy with championing people’s inability to refrain from pushing their political views onto people for the hours they are at work.

And it’s brave to admit you dismiss the concerns of the Jewish community who have nothing to do with the war but are just trying to live their lives, despite the hatred and violence directed at them right now.

Please do not disrespect these rabbis. I take my cue from them.

You do not get to pick and choose what real Judaism is.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:59

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:58

I am posting calming anti-battle pleas for critical thinking

No you aren't. You are flailing around trying to support an unsupportable position. But you can't just admit that.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:58

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 12:54

I find this discussion fascinating from a psychological / public opinion point of view. The opening paragraph of the article states that staff will be banned from wearing political badges but the whole review was targeted at antisemitism and the headline and much of the article obviously focusses on the wearing of Pro-Palestine badges.

But where is the line between political and general awareness raising - what about badges that represent a countries flag? Its more common in the US for people to wear a US Flag pin badge, but not over here, so presumably it would come under 'political' especially given the tension around the raising the colours nonsense.

What about a pink ribbon for breast cancer awareness, blue ribbons for autism awareness, green ribbons for mental health awareness or orange ribbons for MS awareness? What about poppies?

If they are allowed for awareness with medical conditions, would you have to be careful about what time of year they were worn? Orange ribbons are also for the campaign to end violence against women and girls - so if you were an MS advocate, could you wear an orange ribbon for most of the year, as long as you avoided it in November during the 16 days of activism?

Are we just talking NHS staff here or all public facing staff? Some people in the thread have mentioned council staff - but I've worked in councils that have actively pushed campaigns around 16 days of activism to stop VAWaG, mental health awareness, foster care and care leavers awareness, autism awareness etc as part of their public health and support of vulnerable people duties and as part of their campaigns have encouraged staff to wear the relevant colour ribbons etc during the relevant periods.

I'm not against stopping people from wearing badges, lanyards or wristbands that have overt political messages, but there needs to be a lot more discussion and thought about what is classed as political and where the line between political and awareness raising is given the importance of public sector roles in undertaking that awareness raising.

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I don't think it's very complex at all.

It's just about what's relevant to the job. So a flag pin, no.

Awareness raising for medical conditions, yes.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:58

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:54

Are you deliberately misunderstanding?

Post all the stirring battle cries you like.

Do you agree that when someone feels intimidated and that the doctor’s political views may impact the level of care they get, they may avoid seeking help ? You lack compassion which is something you ironically claim to have.

I am posting calming anti-battle pleas for critical thinking

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:57

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:53

Jewish or not, we can look to these rabbis www.rhr.org.il/en/

Okay I’m out - you clearly are happy with championing people’s inability to refrain from pushing their political views onto people for the hours they are at work.

And it’s brave to admit you dismiss the concerns of the Jewish community who have nothing to do with the war but are just trying to live their lives, despite the hatred and violence directed at them right now.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/06/2026 12:56

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:42

We are not in the 1970's if you haven't noticed.

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:55

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 12:38

is speaking a language now a political POV?

It certainly can be in Wales. Before the election there were loads of comments on social media from Reform supporters saying that “if Plaid get in we’ll all be forced to speak Welsh” and other such bollocks.

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 12:54

I find this discussion fascinating from a psychological / public opinion point of view. The opening paragraph of the article states that staff will be banned from wearing political badges but the whole review was targeted at antisemitism and the headline and much of the article obviously focusses on the wearing of Pro-Palestine badges.

But where is the line between political and general awareness raising - what about badges that represent a countries flag? Its more common in the US for people to wear a US Flag pin badge, but not over here, so presumably it would come under 'political' especially given the tension around the raising the colours nonsense.

What about a pink ribbon for breast cancer awareness, blue ribbons for autism awareness, green ribbons for mental health awareness or orange ribbons for MS awareness? What about poppies?

If they are allowed for awareness with medical conditions, would you have to be careful about what time of year they were worn? Orange ribbons are also for the campaign to end violence against women and girls - so if you were an MS advocate, could you wear an orange ribbon for most of the year, as long as you avoided it in November during the 16 days of activism?

Are we just talking NHS staff here or all public facing staff? Some people in the thread have mentioned council staff - but I've worked in councils that have actively pushed campaigns around 16 days of activism to stop VAWaG, mental health awareness, foster care and care leavers awareness, autism awareness etc as part of their public health and support of vulnerable people duties and as part of their campaigns have encouraged staff to wear the relevant colour ribbons etc during the relevant periods.

I'm not against stopping people from wearing badges, lanyards or wristbands that have overt political messages, but there needs to be a lot more discussion and thought about what is classed as political and where the line between political and awareness raising is given the importance of public sector roles in undertaking that awareness raising.

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:54

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:51

Nobody is stopping anyone seeing medical professionals.

I just am not going to undermine workplaces' right to decide what is reasonable alongside all stakeholders and using existing procedures.

A nation where some people allegedly cower and cringe while others snarl on their behalf is an ugly thing.

Are you deliberately misunderstanding?

Post all the stirring battle cries you like.

Do you agree that when someone feels intimidated and that the doctor’s political views may impact the level of care they get, they may avoid seeking help ? You lack compassion which is something you ironically claim to have.

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 12:53

This thread has really become ridiculous. I'm sorry, but it has.
Public sector workers should deal fairly with everyone they come into contact with. Expressing an opinion of a political nature isn't doing that. I didn't lecture my customers on my political beliefs, I took great care not to express those opinions, I would like the same courtesy in return
My workplace wasn't worse for me because I didn't do that, it was better. Respecting the opinion of others by not forcing those opinions on others makes the workplace better.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:53

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:51

If you are Jewish then I would expect you to understand the impact of anti semitism.

Jewish or not, we can look to these rabbis www.rhr.org.il/en/

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:51

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:49

Same way as posters assume I am young and not Jewish?

If you are Jewish then I would expect you to understand the impact of anti semitism.