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Political badges should be banned from NHS uniforms

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Ihatetomatoes · 04/06/2026 08:28

New report says political badges such as Pro Palestine shouldn't be worn on NHS uniforms. It's led to increased antisemitism and fear amongst Jewish patients.

Also NHS uniforms not to be worn on protests.

This report makes a number of suggestions and in my opinion must be implemented. All political badges off NHS uniforms. No NHS uniforms on protests such as pro Palestine. It contributes to racism and fear.

The NHS should treat all patients equally and individuals political opinions shouldn't be pinned on their uniforms.

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Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 13:50

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:36

When we live in a society that has lost all ability to have nuanced conversations and debates, to compromise, for people to understand that someone having a different opinion to them does not have to mean that they wish them harm, when hate, fear, distrust and polarisation is so engrained in society that no one can do anything for fear of offending or upsetting someone that is the ultimate destination we will end up in isn't it?

Bland, colourless, boring - and we will all be poorer for it.

We need to get back to consensus building, compromise and tollerance.

I don’t want a nuanced debate with my doctor - I want medical advice.

I can’t see the compromise in making people disengage from services because they don’t trust that they will get decent treatment due to the views of other.

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 13:48

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:44

I have less cultural capital than you may imagine and my family and I have had dangerously bad experiences with individual NHS staff.

We support the NHS as an institution.

Good for you (I didn’t mention the cultural capital point).

Are you able to appreciate that just because you support it as an institution, others may disengage out of genuine fear?

Is wearing badges more important than people’s lives? Because that’s quite the take.

user293948849167 · 04/06/2026 13:46

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:34

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

No, obviously these are providing information in the same way as a name badge or title.

A political badge would be a “Yes Cymru” or Plaid Cymru badge for example

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:45

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 13:24

Just ask the pertinent questions. What is the NHS relationship with the WHO (I'm asking because I don't know)? If they are affiliated, then fine. If not, then no.

The NHS partners with the WHO - as do the majority of different countries health care systems around the world. The NHS hosts a number of WHO collaborating centres across the UK which undertake research and support national and international policy development

The UK government, like all 194 member countries sit on the World Health Assembly and there is an executive board comprising 34 elected officials from member with three year terms - Chris Whitty currently sits on the Exec Board for the UK.

Reform UK and Restore want to look at withdrawing the UK from the WHO unless it restructures on their terms.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:44

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 13:34

Exactly this. I have had some consistently bad experiences with the NHS and am on the verge of self excluding as a result.

I have less cultural capital than you may imagine and my family and I have had dangerously bad experiences with individual NHS staff.

We support the NHS as an institution.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:42

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:36

When we live in a society that has lost all ability to have nuanced conversations and debates, to compromise, for people to understand that someone having a different opinion to them does not have to mean that they wish them harm, when hate, fear, distrust and polarisation is so engrained in society that no one can do anything for fear of offending or upsetting someone that is the ultimate destination we will end up in isn't it?

Bland, colourless, boring - and we will all be poorer for it.

We need to get back to consensus building, compromise and tollerance.

you can be as unbland, colourful and unboring as you like outside of the working environment.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:41

SundayBangor · 04/06/2026 13:30

People with a good deal of cultural capital do assume that their rights as a service user will be recognised, and are able to advocate for themselves when that doesn't happen.
The NHS also has to make sure people who don't have your level of confidence in how things should work still feel safe to access healthcare services.
People who don't trust the service don't become service users. In the case of the NHS, people self-excluding due to loss of trust will be sicker, will die younger. That's not justice. Leave your bloody badge in your locker it won't kill you.

again, totally agree

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:36

CornishPorsche · 04/06/2026 13:15

So ban all non-uniform items.

Issue headgear for those that wish to wear it, provide all clothes, lanyards, ID badges. Require plain black or white socks without writing, patterns or images on them and plain black footwear like a school. Then enforce it.

No badges, no pins, no jewellery other than a plain wedding ring and plain studs / unadorned bars and rings. Tattoos becomes more difficult to manage but if the police, armed forces, civil services roles like Border Force or HMRC can manage to maintain national standards around whether a tattoo is offensive, so can the NHS.

Plenty of us in uniformed services are acccustomed to this, it isn't difficult to mandate or maintain.

When we live in a society that has lost all ability to have nuanced conversations and debates, to compromise, for people to understand that someone having a different opinion to them does not have to mean that they wish them harm, when hate, fear, distrust and polarisation is so engrained in society that no one can do anything for fear of offending or upsetting someone that is the ultimate destination we will end up in isn't it?

Bland, colourless, boring - and we will all be poorer for it.

We need to get back to consensus building, compromise and tollerance.

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 13:34

SundayBangor · 04/06/2026 13:30

People with a good deal of cultural capital do assume that their rights as a service user will be recognised, and are able to advocate for themselves when that doesn't happen.
The NHS also has to make sure people who don't have your level of confidence in how things should work still feel safe to access healthcare services.
People who don't trust the service don't become service users. In the case of the NHS, people self-excluding due to loss of trust will be sicker, will die younger. That's not justice. Leave your bloody badge in your locker it won't kill you.

Exactly this. I have had some consistently bad experiences with the NHS and am on the verge of self excluding as a result.

AlphaApple · 04/06/2026 13:34

What about NHS workplace inclusion networks - BAME networks, LGBTQ+ networks etc.?

Do they have a role in the workplace (they are typically separate from but related to workplace diversity plans)?

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 13:33

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:59

Please do not disrespect these rabbis. I take my cue from them.

You do not get to pick and choose what real Judaism is.

I am not claiming to. I have compassion for people who, through the actions of governments, are being terrified, beaten and killed by ignorant people.

Did you see the post from the mother whose children are terrified to go to school? Would you dismiss her experience? Because THAT is disrespectful.

SundayBangor · 04/06/2026 13:30

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 11:58

I would assume that the people in charge of the place had discussed and consulted about it. Not my place to control etiquette.

I would expect high standards of work regardless. My right as a service user.

People with a good deal of cultural capital do assume that their rights as a service user will be recognised, and are able to advocate for themselves when that doesn't happen.
The NHS also has to make sure people who don't have your level of confidence in how things should work still feel safe to access healthcare services.
People who don't trust the service don't become service users. In the case of the NHS, people self-excluding due to loss of trust will be sicker, will die younger. That's not justice. Leave your bloody badge in your locker it won't kill you.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 13:24

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:23

My point wasn't about the Pro-Palestinian badges in particular - the report focuses on Pro-Palestine in particular because the remit of the report was antisemitism.

But the recommendation is more broad than that and says that staff shouldn't be allowed to wear political badges generally.

What I am asking is where do you draw the line about what is political and what isn't?

Is it within the remit of a GP to support the formal breast cancer awareness campaign?

It is within their remit to support people who have or at risk of the disease and ensure they get the best treatment that can be provided. But the pink ribbon campaign stems from the World Health Organisation and there are a lot of people who very much dislike and are politically against the WHO for a whole myriad of reasons, so if they put the official campaign posters up or wear a pink ribbon they could be seen to be demonstrating their support of the WHO's aims to influence government on the issue.

The myriad of different views and opinions in this country is complicated, which is why things should be subject to serious discussion and consensus. The desire to oversimplify everything and present only black and white options for things is how we have ended up with such a polarised society.

Just ask the pertinent questions. What is the NHS relationship with the WHO (I'm asking because I don't know)? If they are affiliated, then fine. If not, then no.

Yoonimum · 04/06/2026 13:24

ThatsNicer · 04/06/2026 08:41

Start with removing the Rainbow Lanyards.

Absolutely. Ever since the NHS got captured by Stonewall, rainbow lanyards etc with the Pride 'progress' (how ironic!) colours have become political. Even if they were just standard rainbow colours I would object, much as I support LGB rights, until lanyards, pins and flags representing all the groups protected by the Equality Act 2010 become standard NHS issue.

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:23

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 13:12

You're over complicating it.

Is it relevant to a GPs wider remit to support breast cancer awareness? Yes of course. Broadcast their opinions on the Middle East? No.

My point wasn't about the Pro-Palestinian badges in particular - the report focuses on Pro-Palestine in particular because the remit of the report was antisemitism.

But the recommendation is more broad than that and says that staff shouldn't be allowed to wear political badges generally.

What I am asking is where do you draw the line about what is political and what isn't?

Is it within the remit of a GP to support the formal breast cancer awareness campaign?

It is within their remit to support people who have or at risk of the disease and ensure they get the best treatment that can be provided. But the pink ribbon campaign stems from the World Health Organisation and there are a lot of people who very much dislike and are politically against the WHO for a whole myriad of reasons, so if they put the official campaign posters up or wear a pink ribbon they could be seen to be demonstrating their support of the WHO's aims to influence government on the issue.

The myriad of different views and opinions in this country is complicated, which is why things should be subject to serious discussion and consensus. The desire to oversimplify everything and present only black and white options for things is how we have ended up with such a polarised society.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:22

CornishPorsche · 04/06/2026 13:15

So ban all non-uniform items.

Issue headgear for those that wish to wear it, provide all clothes, lanyards, ID badges. Require plain black or white socks without writing, patterns or images on them and plain black footwear like a school. Then enforce it.

No badges, no pins, no jewellery other than a plain wedding ring and plain studs / unadorned bars and rings. Tattoos becomes more difficult to manage but if the police, armed forces, civil services roles like Border Force or HMRC can manage to maintain national standards around whether a tattoo is offensive, so can the NHS.

Plenty of us in uniformed services are acccustomed to this, it isn't difficult to mandate or maintain.

this absolutely. We weren't doctrinaire about shoes and socks, although we had safety requirements, its also not difficult to ban items which indicate a political or social view.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:21

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:10

But raising awareness about medical conditions is political - because the aim of the awareness and campaigns generally has more than one arm to it.

There is the public awareness element but there is also the policy change, research and treatment funding elements - all of the medical awareness campaigns I mentioned have a political aspect to them which seeks to amend policy and improve public funding and services for whatever the cause is - every single one of them.

That is why it is not as simple as saying no political badges or slogans - because there is very little that is not political in one way or another.

Agreed.
Phew.
(Outrage Politics folk won't agree.)
Off thread now. Lunchtime.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/06/2026 13:19

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:02

That's not jail for political reason, that for paining a slogan on a building.

CornishPorsche · 04/06/2026 13:15

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:10

But raising awareness about medical conditions is political - because the aim of the awareness and campaigns generally has more than one arm to it.

There is the public awareness element but there is also the policy change, research and treatment funding elements - all of the medical awareness campaigns I mentioned have a political aspect to them which seeks to amend policy and improve public funding and services for whatever the cause is - every single one of them.

That is why it is not as simple as saying no political badges or slogans - because there is very little that is not political in one way or another.

So ban all non-uniform items.

Issue headgear for those that wish to wear it, provide all clothes, lanyards, ID badges. Require plain black or white socks without writing, patterns or images on them and plain black footwear like a school. Then enforce it.

No badges, no pins, no jewellery other than a plain wedding ring and plain studs / unadorned bars and rings. Tattoos becomes more difficult to manage but if the police, armed forces, civil services roles like Border Force or HMRC can manage to maintain national standards around whether a tattoo is offensive, so can the NHS.

Plenty of us in uniformed services are acccustomed to this, it isn't difficult to mandate or maintain.

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:14

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:08

I would. I would trust the words on your medical certificate. I would trust the Hippocratic Oath.

I actually think you are either:
Very naive and clearly haven't heard of Harold Shipman.
Or
Just being argumentative.

GeneralPeter · 04/06/2026 13:14

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:08

I would. I would trust the words on your medical certificate. I would trust the Hippocratic Oath.

Do No Harm anti-abortion badges?

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:14

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:08

I would. I would trust the words on your medical certificate. I would trust the Hippocratic Oath.

the Hippocratic oath has no valid or official meaning. No one is required to take it. In any case the only clinicians who do take it are doctors, not Nurses or other clinicians. Are you saying you trust us less?

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 13:12

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:10

But raising awareness about medical conditions is political - because the aim of the awareness and campaigns generally has more than one arm to it.

There is the public awareness element but there is also the policy change, research and treatment funding elements - all of the medical awareness campaigns I mentioned have a political aspect to them which seeks to amend policy and improve public funding and services for whatever the cause is - every single one of them.

That is why it is not as simple as saying no political badges or slogans - because there is very little that is not political in one way or another.

You're over complicating it.

Is it relevant to a GPs wider remit to support breast cancer awareness? Yes of course. Broadcast their opinions on the Middle East? No.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:10

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:03

Feeling lectured by a badge is ludicrous.
If medical personnel harangued patients or pointed at their cross / aum / magen David / rainbow, that would be wrong.

the badge indicates a political view. I wouldn't be happy to be given care by someone wearing a badge supporting the Incel Movement or similar.

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:10

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:58

I don't think it's very complex at all.

It's just about what's relevant to the job. So a flag pin, no.

Awareness raising for medical conditions, yes.

But raising awareness about medical conditions is political - because the aim of the awareness and campaigns generally has more than one arm to it.

There is the public awareness element but there is also the policy change, research and treatment funding elements - all of the medical awareness campaigns I mentioned have a political aspect to them which seeks to amend policy and improve public funding and services for whatever the cause is - every single one of them.

That is why it is not as simple as saying no political badges or slogans - because there is very little that is not political in one way or another.