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To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

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nobodyssons · 04/06/2026 07:05

He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

Nigel Farage MP (@Nigel_Farage) on X

We must not allow the tragic murder of a young woman turn into attacks on men and attacks on the police.

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

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HenriettaHenhouse · 05/06/2026 22:29

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 20:08

Yet neither of those two are leading the polls.

Labour are leading the polls in Makerfield.

Pippin2017 · 05/06/2026 21:20

dreamreal, yes, his comments after Sarah Everard's murder were very telling.

"We must not allow the tragic murder of a young woman to turn into attacks on men and attacks on the police.”

After Jo Cox's murder, his comment on the Brexit victory 'without a shot being fired'.

GeneralPeter · 05/06/2026 21:19

sittingonabeach · 05/06/2026 21:01

@Namingbaba I don’t think people are expecting arrest rates to be completely proportionate but when one is so heavily skewed surely it’s obvious that something is wrong in the policing system. And that is still happening so why aren’t people shouting about that, why isn’t that described as two tier policing?

There might be a policing problem but I don’t think you can tell that from the arrest rate data.

thepariscrimefiles · 05/06/2026 21:13

MulberryBrandy · 05/06/2026 20:47

Just who we don't need to interfere, the inept VP poking his nose in to stir trouble:

In his post, Vance described the killing as "tragic as it is enraging", saying that Nowak would still be alive today "if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants".

Downing Street hits out at 'people seeking to stir division' after Vance's Nowak post - BBC News

JD Vance has got a fucking cheek! Does our government lecture them after every school shooting or when ICE murder US citizens in cold blood? Or when babies and small children are sent to detention centres (i.e. prisons). The hypocricy is staggering.

dreamreal · 05/06/2026 21:12

The ONLY time Farage bothers to pipe up about any form of tragedy or crime is where a racial element is involved. It's so predictable to be a joke. The man is vile.

We all know full well that if a white man had been the murderer on this occasion, nobody would hear a peep out of Farage. As for TR and his morons, they wouldn't even register anything.

How dare TR and his imbeciles complain about the police when they themselves have been in prison (or skirted close to it). You only have to look at the state of them. THEY are the very people we don't need in this country - THEY are the ones putting unnecessary strain on the police. Ignorant, vile thugs the lot of them. A national embarrassment. If only it were possible to deport THEM - but what nation would want them?

BIossomtoes · 05/06/2026 21:12

sittingonabeach · 05/06/2026 21:01

@Namingbaba I don’t think people are expecting arrest rates to be completely proportionate but when one is so heavily skewed surely it’s obvious that something is wrong in the policing system. And that is still happening so why aren’t people shouting about that, why isn’t that described as two tier policing?

This. Nobody will ever convince me that black men commit 2.4 times as many crimes as white men. We know black people experience far more stop and search. We know the police are institutionally racist and yet Farage would try to convince us that two tier policing favours people of colour.

Pippin2017 · 05/06/2026 21:12

Luddite26 · 05/06/2026 21:04

"if the last few generations of European Elite had stood their ground..."
His European history knowledge is very thin on the ground. And his boss is the son of European immigrants! But people just listen without question.

Indeed - he should, perhaps, look closer to home for someone seemingly committing terrible crimes and being above/beyond prosecution.

EasternStandard · 05/06/2026 21:06

Namingbaba · 05/06/2026 20:50

It seems entirely backward to expect proportionate arrest rates across different races when we know that socioeconomic hardships, as one example, play such a massive role in who ends up in the justice system. For example, the reason you don't see many Japanese immigrants in jail for robbery isn't because the police are letting them get away with it. It’s just because they come from a group that commits those crimes at a much lower rate. If someone commits a crime they should be arrested. We seem to want the police to solve this issue when it should be dealt with much earlier.

Yes to this.

Luddite26 · 05/06/2026 21:04

MulberryBrandy · 05/06/2026 20:47

Just who we don't need to interfere, the inept VP poking his nose in to stir trouble:

In his post, Vance described the killing as "tragic as it is enraging", saying that Nowak would still be alive today "if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants".

Downing Street hits out at 'people seeking to stir division' after Vance's Nowak post - BBC News

"if the last few generations of European Elite had stood their ground..."
His European history knowledge is very thin on the ground. And his boss is the son of European immigrants! But people just listen without question.

sittingonabeach · 05/06/2026 21:01

@Namingbaba I don’t think people are expecting arrest rates to be completely proportionate but when one is so heavily skewed surely it’s obvious that something is wrong in the policing system. And that is still happening so why aren’t people shouting about that, why isn’t that described as two tier policing?

Allseeingallknowing · 05/06/2026 20:55

I’m not a fan of his, but expect most felt cold hard rage at this terrible tragedy. I didn’t take that as an incitement to violence. If Starmer had said that, wonder what the reaction would have been.

Pippin2017 · 05/06/2026 20:50

Now that is disgusting. Between him and Musk - need to pay a bit more attention to their own problems tbh.

Imagine using this to score political points.

Namingbaba · 05/06/2026 20:50

It seems entirely backward to expect proportionate arrest rates across different races when we know that socioeconomic hardships, as one example, play such a massive role in who ends up in the justice system. For example, the reason you don't see many Japanese immigrants in jail for robbery isn't because the police are letting them get away with it. It’s just because they come from a group that commits those crimes at a much lower rate. If someone commits a crime they should be arrested. We seem to want the police to solve this issue when it should be dealt with much earlier.

MulberryBrandy · 05/06/2026 20:47

Just who we don't need to interfere, the inept VP poking his nose in to stir trouble:

In his post, Vance described the killing as "tragic as it is enraging", saying that Nowak would still be alive today "if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants".

Downing Street hits out at 'people seeking to stir division' after Vance's Nowak post - BBC News

JD Vance speaking into a microphone.

Downing Street hits out at 'people seeking to stir division' after Vance's Nowak post

The US vice president wrote the "only response is righteous anger" when referring to Henry Nowak's death on X.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlplwn1jkro

GeneralPeter · 05/06/2026 20:46

RedToothBrush · 05/06/2026 20:38

Why on earth are arrest rates for women so high!

A quick search and recent data says there were 83,881 male prisoners and 3,461 female prisoners in UK jails. That's 96% men and 4% women.

That really is an interesting statistic. What is this showing? Do women get away with crime more or are women easier targets for arrest. Or do men commit much more serious crimes requiring longer prison terms?

I have no idea what that data is showing. It needs context and explanation.

This is another problem. Communicating shit like this well to the public who feel they can trust the explanation.

It seems to be both. Men commit much more of the worst crimes, but also women seem to get slightly more lenient sentences controlling for severity and criminal history.

Pippin2017 · 05/06/2026 20:42

Gloriia · 05/06/2026 20:22

People are angry at crap policing. I'm not condoning wheelie bin throwing but compared to other protests it was hardly extreme or prolonged. Henry's life mattered.

Being outraged at the police is not stoking hate and division.

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So by Farage's actions, the country is more united? Don't think so.

GeneralPeter · 05/06/2026 20:39

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/06/2026 20:33

Because men are far more likely to commit violent and sexual crimes. Are you trying to make an equivalent comparison?

But the arrest rates are different so something definitely needs
to be done.

Now I’ve looked closer at the data I see we need police to arrest three times as many Chinese as they do, twice as many Indians, a smidge fewer Pakistanis and a handful more Bangladeshis before justice is truly done.

RedToothBrush · 05/06/2026 20:38

GeneralPeter · 05/06/2026 20:29

Men were six times as likely as women to be arrested.

Doesn’t that need fixing first?

If not, why not?

Why on earth are arrest rates for women so high!

A quick search and recent data says there were 83,881 male prisoners and 3,461 female prisoners in UK jails. That's 96% men and 4% women.

That really is an interesting statistic. What is this showing? Do women get away with crime more or are women easier targets for arrest. Or do men commit much more serious crimes requiring longer prison terms?

I have no idea what that data is showing. It needs context and explanation.

This is another problem. Communicating shit like this well to the public who feel they can trust the explanation.

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/06/2026 20:33

GeneralPeter · 05/06/2026 20:29

Men were six times as likely as women to be arrested.

Doesn’t that need fixing first?

If not, why not?

Because men are far more likely to commit violent and sexual crimes. Are you trying to make an equivalent comparison?

GeneralPeter · 05/06/2026 20:29

BIossomtoes · 05/06/2026 19:06

Damn right policing needs to change. When black men are 2.4 times more likely to be arrested than white men something definitely needs to be done. I don’t imagine Farage will like the change though.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/

Men were six times as likely as women to be arrested.

Doesn’t that need fixing first?

If not, why not?

MulberryBrandy · 05/06/2026 20:29

Thank you @RedToothBrush for setting this out clearly. I was also prompted to think of this today: "Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" and thought that is what we need but it would cost a lot with no instant results. The electorate are very impatient - which, in my opinion, has been very hasty and unrealistic for a government to work miracles in less than two years. There have been errors but there always are.

Gloriia · 05/06/2026 20:22

Pippin2017 · 05/06/2026 19:42

But it still ended up with thugs chucking bins at police officers and destroying property. Which I'm fairly sure could have been forseen.
Ed spelling

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People are angry at crap policing. I'm not condoning wheelie bin throwing but compared to other protests it was hardly extreme or prolonged. Henry's life mattered.

Being outraged at the police is not stoking hate and division.

RedToothBrush · 05/06/2026 20:18

Here's the thing, people in rougher communities are seeing more local crime in their community and more antisocial behaviour. Yet there's less police and people in these communities are feeling ignored and pushed out. They are statistically the places asylum seekers are placed not rich areas, so any issues, no matter how small are disproportionately born by these communities.

The police due to successive government have had resources cut and cut so they are less effective in these types of low level everyday crime. It leads to a feeling of neglect and de-prioritisation. It's a sense of being ignored and dismissed over a lengthy period.

Even in my nice next of the woods we've seen council tax go up substantially whilst the two PCSOs were sacked for budget considerations and we now have a massive county lines issue that didn't previously exist. This is leading to resentment and dissatisfaction.

We need to remember that 'tough on crime and the causes of crime' was a particular successful and well supported political slogan. For a reason.

Because the police have less resources they've been forced into public engagement in a different way - large through media campaigns that don't do a lot. These tend to be more aligned with middle class thinking and priorities which again emphasises this sense of 'left behind'. This virtue signalling style of policing due to lack of resources is pretty hated because it's replaced rather on the ground police and is a poor use of the limited resources the police do have.

This is boiling over into all manner of social conflict and the police frankly don't have the resources to deal with it. They have lost public good will because there's a sense they are there for other people and not these boring mundane crimes. In small provisional communities everyone tends to know everyone else which also includes everyone knowing who is responsible for x, but the police do fuck all to stop them.

The thugs take advantage of the situation because they can, meanwhile it's the ones who are armchair spectators who hear a grain of truth from someone outside of authority who merely acknowledges their existence so they start to believe and buy into the wider narrative.

This wouldn't happen if policing was effective and was sorting out problems in communities. Farage is filling a void that's been vacated by other political parties not prioritising policing higher on the agenda. All whilst taxes are rising and we get less services.

This is ultimately the problem. Where the money is perceived to have gone instead gets the blame - because Labour and the Tories can't really offer an alternative narrative to why various crimes in local communities are becoming more visible and common.

Given I know how bad the anti social behaviour has become in my nice area - visibly so with the local supermarket installing so much anti-theft equipment and actually witnessing these crimes it's difficult to comprehend what it's like in less affluent areas with high unemployment and low prospects.

People want jobs and opportunity, which again is catkip to communities that feel under pressure from changing demographics.

The government has to turn that around and show a tangible change in real lives rather than lip service and pr. Because that's where the trust has been lost. In this sense of disconnection between politicians and people witnessing crime and it's effects.

The void will get filled with other easy slogans because Farage hasn't got a plan thats any different from the PR and spin of the mainstream parties. He's just got handy scapegoats. He's trusted because he's noticing that grain of truth that he can then capitalise on and apply a shitty narrative to. He makes people who feel disenfranchised, feel listened to.

The whole thing is UGLY, but unless you correctly identify the failings of the mainstream people to understand what creating an environment for Farage to flourish in, you are screwed really. You don't achieve that by trying to silence disaffected voices. You have to make them less disaffected and unhappy instead!

It all sucks. There are no short cuts. We kid ourselves in pretending there are and that banning solves the issue.

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