To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

But surely that's the question. Why did they prioritise the man standing up who was not injured over the person lying on the ground moaning, turning blue and saying he had been stabbed? Are you saying race had nothing to do with their actions?

I think this is massively interesting actually.

it’s logical to question what are the aims of arrest vs community action.

you have presented it as a softly softly approach to Muslims because the police are scared of upsetting them.

what if it’s not that, what if it’s from many years of community partnership and investment and understanding the most effective way to get the same result?

lets say Muslims: (there are stereotypes here and real life is more nuanced I hope people can consider the theme of this without jumping on the detail)

• answer to god, not their law of (any) land
• the judgement of god is what matters to them
• they don’t respond particularly to legal/ man made “punishments” for the above reasons

if however, their community elders/ imans have a more effective form of rehabilitation, ie mentoring, community pressure, even community punishment- can you see why in these cases the police would consider this avenue?
Working in partnership to get a better result?

i think “average” people assume everyone is terrified of the police / justice system and crime can be stopped with an arrest or interview, or even a prison sentence.

The real world isn’t like that and no one is more aware of that than the police. Using other forms of intervention (obviously for non serious crimes) clearly has some impact- otherwise they wouldn’t do it would they?

No quite normal to avoid speculating until the trial is over.

I feel rage at the police for this and many, many other things. Their behaviour as an organisation is awful.
That doesn't mean I can't also feel absolute disgust that a man has chosen to use this purely so that he can become richer and more powerful. He gives not one fuck about policing or stabbings or the death of young men. Or the rapes of young girls. But he does like the fact that they make him more likely to be given more five million pound gifts.

He is used people's anger and sadness and fear for himself. Anyone that did that for floyd's death is equally an arsehole

As bad as members of the community that practice FGM, marry their daughters off at 12, have multiple wives, make them cover themselves from head to toe, and form child grooming gangs, eh...?

The police prioritising the person they believe to be a victim over the person they believe to be the culprit is not evidence of two tier policing. It happens on a daily basis to people of all backgrounds.

I think this is massively interesting actually.

it’s logical to question what are the aims of arrest vs community action.

you have presented it as a softly softly approach to Muslims because the police are scared of upsetting them.

what if it’s not that, what if it’s from many years of community partnership and investment and understanding the most effective way to get the same result?

lets say Muslims: (there are stereotypes here and real life is more nuanced I hope people can consider the theme of this without jumping on the detail)

• answer to god, not their law of (any) land
• the judgement of god is what matters to them
• they don’t respond particularly to legal/ man made “punishments” for the above reasons

if however, their community elders/ imans have a more effective form of rehabilitation, ie mentoring, community pressure, even community punishment- can you see why in these cases the police would consider this avenue?
Working in partnership to get a better result?

i think “average” people assume everyone is terrified of the police / justice system and crime can be stopped with an arrest or interview, or even a prison sentence.

The real world isn’t like that and no one is more aware of that than the police. Using other forms of intervention (obviously for non serious crimes) clearly has some impact- otherwise they wouldn’t do it would they?

Nope I never said that. I said I'm only talking about Farage. Stop making things up and putting words in my mouth. If you have to do that to make your point, you can't have a very good point can you?

As bad as members of the community that practice FGM, marry their daughters off at 12, have multiple wives, make them cover themselves from head to toe, and form child grooming gangs, eh...?

Does anyone on here really think this case would be front and center in the media, if it wasnt for Farage, Jenrick et al, in the first instance?
This appalling crime happened 7 months ago, and this is the first I have heard about.
Strange that isn't it?

Oh yes that rings a bell, I remember you reacting like this before. Still you’re ok with anger and fury from one set of politicians and not another.

Anyone who does not feel rage at the racial discrimination demonstrated while a young innocent boy lay dying, should do some soul searching as well.

People have been talking about it online for ages. It’s getting more attention now due to the court case.

Does anyone on here really think this case would be front and center in the media, if it wasnt for Farage, Jenrick et al, in the first instance?
This appalling crime happened 7 months ago, and this is the first I have heard about.
Strange that isn't it?

No.
They should not be front and centre. Sorry.
Action should be taken to prevent what happened to poor Henry happening again.

This requires debate.

It is in my opinion idiotic to suggest this should be swept under the carpet because of what his family say.

As terrible as I feel for them, and I'm trying to say this in as kind a way as possible, genuinely I am, their opinion on what politicians do next is not relevant.

I don't have to answer your questions, I'm sick of you quoting so many of my posts and trying to derail the point.

Agree!
Amongst his crazy fans are Robert Kenyon, Danny Kruger, Bonnie Blue (and her thousands of men)
And people are stupid enough to think that Reform UK, that Farage is the change this country needs. 😂 You couldn’t make this shit up!

And I'm the Pope.

Does anyone on here really think this case would be front and center in the media, if it wasnt for Farage, Jenrick et al, in the first instance?
This appalling crime happened 7 months ago, and this is the first I have heard about.
Strange that isn't it?