AIBU to think dismissal during probation was unfair given autism adjustments?

I'm not really sure why it is beyond the comprehension of some posters that people might be more casual and more frank on an anonymous online forum than they are in the workplace? In much the same way as I pay my landlord on time and in full every month despite my belief that housing is a human right, I go to work and am agreeable, productive and professional regardless of how I feel about disability discrimination (and again, I'm lucky enough to have a nice enough job and nice enough employer at the moment, so zero bitterness here).

Yeah but you seem to be ignoring the issue of recording someone without their consent.

Yeah 9 months into a job, she really should have stopped being autistic now, or at least be able to act neurotypical?!

Read the OP posts, it’s quite self explanatory when you read her posts.

I use em-dashes copiously and I have never once used AI. I just read classic lit.

Did op ask for micromanagement or hand holding or for the whole organisation to restructure itself around her?

Were they the adjustments asked for?

That's pretty common for autistic people sadly.

With the right adjustments and the right support it doesn't have to be that way.

The em dash and phrasing gives away AI

How soon after the recording incident were you let go @SereneRoseRobin ?

I would say it is fairly obvious you used AI to write your OP.

Do you use it as you struggle with written communication? Unfortunately people can tell, and it looks unprofessional to be using it to send work emails.

Back in the day, training in social skills for autistic people was considered appropriate and helpful

When was that? I remember it being an abusive and abhorrent program akin to conversion therapy.

"Masking" is seen as traumatic when it's actually what everyone does to some extent.

'What everyone does to some extent' is always used in the context of minimising and questioning disabilities. Just say what you mean.

I think this OP. If you are communicating in a written style like this at work I could see that as being a problem.

Writing full sentences and capitalising the first word would be a start and make a big difference as to how you come across.

Perhaps you were doing that at work and are just being relaxed here?

@Branleuse 'We are entitled to this. '

This illustrates my point earlier on.

There is a fine line between requesting adjustment and demanding one because I'm entitle to it regardless.

Loads is the matter with me, but that's besides the point - I also know my limits and work in a non-managerial, low-status job, and it's fine. I always joke that I wouldn't be able to sell someone a bottle of water in the desert! I've repeatedly said on this thread that I don't think reasonable adjustments for autism are usually a recipe for success, and that unfortunately it's better to bow out of companies and sectors that don't work for you rather than forcing people to implement reasonable adjustments that they resent, because it doesn't have a happy ending. I just say this because I'm being realistic.

I second going into a more analytical role. This is what I am attempting to do for myself. Communication heavy jobs usually tire ND people a lot. It’s not worth it as long as less communication heavy roles exist.

There must also be acceptance of an individuals own abilities and fit for the role. Communication in consultancy would be a key skill so if this is an area lacking then it's not the right fit.

A relative with ASD, on leaving Uni was highly aspirational about her career and initially saw every sign of non progression through the lens of prejudice/discrimination. This didn't help her at all and she was nearly sacked...thankfully she met a partner in work, who was able to advise that she move into certain roles which are analytical but repeatable and lower requirement for communication/people management. It's a win/win. The employer gets a competent worker and she has a job she can do without stress.

She has also let go of her unrealistic aspirations to be CEO. Just because someone has good academics doesn't mean they are leaders or should be in client facing roles.

So employers can help but ultimately some roles are not right..maturity is understanding that and finding what will work for you.

It’s a tough world out there for ND people. A lot of us get judged by our communication style even though we do not want to cause trouble. I understand because I went through this in my previous career (teaching). My advice is to learn how to break things down better, and then do whatever is in your control. Easier said than done though I know.

I completely disagree with this. The employer did put reasonable adjustments in place, including coaching and support.

The level of adjustment the OP was asking for would have required constant oversight and hand holding, which goes beyond what can reasonably be expected in that role.

The OP was not the right fit for the post. She was unable to work independently or meet deadlines, whether due to her communication system, her understanding of the projects, or her general approach to the work.

There were also concerns about her professional conduct after she recorded colleagues without consent and then refused to apologise, which showed little regard for company policy.

Probationary periods do not override equality or anti discrimination legislation, but they also do not prevent an employer from deciding that someone cannot meet the core requirements of the job.

Reasonable adjustments are meant to remove barriers, not to fundamentally change the nature of the role.

I agree, so why are you doing it?

People are likely getting the impression that you respond to anything you dislike by acting like a surly teenager, and it will of course colour their responses.

You may have to accept that unless you can learn the right lessons from this then you will never be capable of developing a professional career.

May I ask, what have you learned from (as I understand it) failing your accountancy exams?

I work as a clinician, I'm fairly confident I'm neurodivergent, my direct manager comments on 'you'll hate this change because of your ADHD' but she genuinely is just acknowledging that I find some things harder.

I'm clinically brilliant and patients love me.

What I struggle with is multiple computer systems, letters to patients and referring, recording information while seeing patients. Ultimately taking my verbal communication and recording it to communicate it onwards. Now what is very helpful is that my manager has identified those things and put it into words for me.

I go in early, I stay late to finish paperwork because sometimes I can't do it during clinic and I need to go away because I feel overwhelmed, have a coffee and come back and complete it then.

Several of our team are like this in 1 way or another and we've become this bunch of people who can go 'x is t going to respond to that text message, Y won't access the spreadsheet, z isn't going to make a phone call...' etc etc and we all just work with each other on it. It's actually lovely. I'm 25 years into a career though and it was years before I understood myself.

I job hopped a fair bit to find an environment that worked, op you need to find the role that works for you. That may mean starting on a lower salary, it may mean doing something that's a sidestep from what you thought you'd do. By all means if you were discriminated against feel free to complain and she or whatever but also life is long! Find a job that doesn't feel like torture.

My current role has enough daily change that I don't get bored and grind to a halt, enough routine that I don't get overwhelmed, enough understanding that I'm not afraid to ask questions and enough leadership and expectations that I can't the piss. Try on a few different roles, you'll get there

You aren’t what they are looking for, you don’t have the skills required to do the job, get another job where your skill set fits.

Wdym?

From memory it’s the second - the first being a big 4 consultancy firm.

No. I’m autistic and I’m trying to understand why you think the op has a good case, given that she commited what would be a gross misconduct in most orgs.

I have been employed in a company where the staff in one of the departments started to resign because the management did not understand what it meant to keep adapting to one individual's needs.

Other employees cannot keep compensating, helping and explaining things for one individual.

It destroyed a department to adapt to one person's individual needs and it took a long time to rebuild it.

Employees other than for example an autistic person also have the right for a reasonable working environment.