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AIBU to think dismissal during probation was unfair given autism adjustments?

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SereneRoseRobin · 03/06/2026 15:37

I’m looking for honest views because I’m not sure whether I’m being unreasonable or whether this was genuinely unfair.

I was recently dismissed from a graduate/analyst role after my probation was extended. I am autistic, and my employer knew this. I had raised the need for clear written instructions, defined objectives, examples of similar work, timelines, and timely/direct feedback. Some support was put in place, including coaching, but I don’t feel the actual adjustments were properly embedded or reviewed before the decision was made.

The difficult part is that the concerns raised about me seemed mainly to focus on communication style, professional behaviour, asking for clarification, Teams messages, and quality assurance under pressure — rather than on whether I could actually do the analytical work. Some recent written feedback said my analytical skills were good, that my work did not contain relevant errors, that I was taking ownership, and that I sought support appropriately. Another person said I had picked up on a complex project well.

The project I was criticised on was not straightforward. I was a first-year graduate with no prior experience in that sector, and I was assigned open-ended/data-heavy modelling work with a lot of ambiguity and short deadlines. Some outputs were expected within hours or by the next day, so there was not much time for structured review. I also didn’t always get timely feedback while I could still act on it. Some feedback came months after the work had ended.
My probation extension was meant to allow support and coaching to take effect, but I was dismissed before the extension period had fully ended. I had submitted evidence of improvement the day before the decision, but I don’t feel it was properly discussed or considered.
The coaching report apparently said the benefit of coaching should be assessed after a longer period, because performance can dip while new strategies embed.

I’m appealing because I think they didn’t properly separate disability-related communication issues from actual capability, didn’t give recent improvement enough weight, and didn’t consider alternatives such as letting the extension run, providing clearer QA/communication frameworks, assigning more standard analyst work, or redeploying me to a more suitable team.

I’m not saying I was perfect. I know there were areas to improve. But I feel like I was assessed against unclear expectations, on complex work, without the timely feedback and structure that had already been identified as necessary for me.

AIBU to think this was unfair and potentially linked to disability discrimination/failure to make reasonable adjustments? Or is this just how probation works, and I should accept it and move on?

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Taztoy · 04/06/2026 20:28

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:26

That is where you work.

Recording someone without their permission, regardless if the workplace, is a breach if UKGDPR.

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 20:27

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:26

Bar examples any good manager should be providing that for everybody. So not onerous requests.

That was not my experience of consulting.

Laura95167 · 04/06/2026 20:27

SereneRoseRobin · 04/06/2026 20:16

if it was gross misconduct the company would have fired me immediately. u have no idea what u r on about. give it a rest-- its unhelpful af

It is potential gross misconduct to record an internal meeting if personal or customer data is discussed

But OP even if you disagree with posters. (Posters giving honest opinions you asked for) being rude and agressive to them because you dont like them isnt nice and if its a reflection of your attitude at work no wonder you failed your probation

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:26

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 20:26

She didn’t even apologise. Using AI for transcription is also a gross misconduct where I work, on top of recording people without permission. That is a huge violation.

That is where you work.

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:26

Gymnopedie · 04/06/2026 20:24

Did op ask for micromanagement or hand holding or for the whole organisation to restructure itself around her?

Were they the adjustments asked for?

Well yes, she pretty.much did.

I had raised the need for clear written instructions, defined objectives, examples of similar work, timelines, and timely/direct feedback.

Bar examples any good manager should be providing that for everybody. So not onerous requests.

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 20:26

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:20

Secretly recording a meeting is generally considered misconduct but is not automatically gross misconduct. Whether it justifies summary dismissal depends on whether an employer's disciplinary policy explicitly lists it as gross misconduct, the context of the recording, and the reasons for making it. None of which you know. The company sounds shit and a lot of what the op needed as reasonable adjustments should have been happening for everybody. It may well be she recorded it to aid her work because her reasonable adjustments weren’t happening. Whose fault is that?

Thankfully there are many, many companies that are far more inclusive, some quite big players too.

She didn’t even apologise. Using AI for transcription is also a gross misconduct where I work, on top of recording people without permission. That is a huge violation.

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:25

IMightMentionGriddlebone · 04/06/2026 20:22

Taztoy As I said earlier, some people have less experience than others with balancing the competing desires of multiple disabled people.

Magp13 If we want to read ChatGBT generated-text, we can type in text prompts for ourselves, thanks. I don't consent to having my eyeballs polluted with that.

If you’re lazy enough not to inform yourself I’ll post what I want. It’s hugely relevant and informative to the discussion. You’re going to flounder big time in the coming years if your eyes feel
polluted by chatGBT. 😂

Gymnopedie · 04/06/2026 20:24

Did op ask for micromanagement or hand holding or for the whole organisation to restructure itself around her?

Were they the adjustments asked for?

Well yes, she pretty.much did.

I had raised the need for clear written instructions, defined objectives, examples of similar work, timelines, and timely/direct feedback.

IMightMentionGriddlebone · 04/06/2026 20:22

Taztoy As I said earlier, some people have less experience than others with balancing the competing desires of multiple disabled people.

Magp13 If we want to read ChatGBT generated-text, we can type in text prompts for ourselves, thanks. I don't consent to having my eyeballs polluted with that.

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:20

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 20:13

Should the op be allowed to commit gross misconduct?

Secretly recording a meeting is generally considered misconduct but is not automatically gross misconduct. Whether it justifies summary dismissal depends on whether an employer's disciplinary policy explicitly lists it as gross misconduct, the context of the recording, and the reasons for making it. None of which you know. The company sounds shit and a lot of what the op needed as reasonable adjustments should have been happening for everybody. It may well be she recorded it to aid her work because her reasonable adjustments weren’t happening. Whose fault is that?

Thankfully there are many, many companies that are far more inclusive, some quite big players too.

SereneRoseRobin · 04/06/2026 20:16

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 20:13

Should the op be allowed to commit gross misconduct?

if it was gross misconduct the company would have fired me immediately. u have no idea what u r on about. give it a rest-- its unhelpful af

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Taztoy · 04/06/2026 20:13

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:12

Actually autistic people are not just unemployed but under employed in big numbers and going by some of the awful posts on here it’s easy to see why. Why should autistic people just expect to take work way below their qualifications. Just no.

Autistic adults face some of the highest unemployment and underemployment rates of any demographic, with roughly 7 in 10 autistic adults out of work or in roles far below their qualifications. Despite wanting to work, systemic hiring barriers and workplace inflexibility leave many struggling to secure and maintain meaningful employment.
The Scope of the Problem
The Employment Gap: Official UK figures show that only about 34% of disabled people with autism are in employment, compared to 55% for all disabled people and 82% for non-disabled people.
The "Overqualified" Trap: Autistic university graduates are twice as likely to be unemployed after 15 months as non-disabled peers and are highly susceptible to underemployment (working in roles that do not reflect their true skills or capabilities).
The Pay Gap: Autistic individuals face the largest pay gap among disability groups, earning a third less on average than their non-disabled peers.
Key Barriers
Inaccessible Recruitment: Traditional hiring processes heavily prioritize unwritten social norms, such as eye contact, "small talk," and expressive body language, which can disadvantage autistic candidates.
Workplace Environment: Sensory overload, rigid management styles, and lack of accommodations (like quiet spaces or flexible hours) can lead to job loss or burnout.

It’s frankly not ok and autistic people are lambasted if they go on benefits and lambasted if they work. Things need to changes. The Buckland Review has many recommendations and many companies are not as poor as the one in the OP.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-buckland-review-of-autism-employment-report-and-recommendations/the-buckland-review-of-autism-employment-report-and-recommendations#making-recruitment-practices-meet-the-needs-of-autistic-applicants

Should the op be allowed to commit gross misconduct?

Magp13 · 04/06/2026 20:12

MichaelmasDaisiesAndAutumSunset · 04/06/2026 15:11

One that works for everyone. That is really what reasonable adjustments are supposed to be. They are to make the work environment work for the person who needs them. This comes at a reasonable "cost" to the rest of the workforce, but neither the employer, nor the workforce is obliged to be nice and the adjustments are a balance between the individual's rights and everybody else's (yes even their nasty employer's right to make money).

It is an unpalatable truth but not every autistic person is going to be able to do the job they want, or even any job. 75% does seem high, but to determine whether it is too high, such that it indicates that reasonable adjustments are not being made, we'd need to know a lot more. Also, you need to remember that - just like all of us - autistic people may not be able to do a job for reasons outside of their autism. All people on this thread are doing is asking the OP to do some reflection on whether or not she could have (notwithstanding her autism) done things differently, i.e. don't assume straightaway that it is discrimination, failure to make adjustments and consider what else could have gone wrong (with the fairly obvious "I recorded a meeting against policy", notwithstanding the matters stated as mitigating circumstances, would be serious everywhere).

I think that's all it is. Not malicious prejudice.

Actually autistic people are not just unemployed but under employed in big numbers and going by some of the awful posts on here it’s easy to see why. Why should autistic people just expect to take work way below their qualifications. Just no.

Autistic adults face some of the highest unemployment and underemployment rates of any demographic, with roughly 7 in 10 autistic adults out of work or in roles far below their qualifications. Despite wanting to work, systemic hiring barriers and workplace inflexibility leave many struggling to secure and maintain meaningful employment.
The Scope of the Problem
The Employment Gap: Official UK figures show that only about 34% of disabled people with autism are in employment, compared to 55% for all disabled people and 82% for non-disabled people.
The "Overqualified" Trap: Autistic university graduates are twice as likely to be unemployed after 15 months as non-disabled peers and are highly susceptible to underemployment (working in roles that do not reflect their true skills or capabilities).
The Pay Gap: Autistic individuals face the largest pay gap among disability groups, earning a third less on average than their non-disabled peers.
Key Barriers
Inaccessible Recruitment: Traditional hiring processes heavily prioritize unwritten social norms, such as eye contact, "small talk," and expressive body language, which can disadvantage autistic candidates.
Workplace Environment: Sensory overload, rigid management styles, and lack of accommodations (like quiet spaces or flexible hours) can lead to job loss or burnout.

It’s frankly not ok and autistic people are lambasted if they go on benefits and lambasted if they work. Things need to changes. The Buckland Review has many recommendations and many companies are not as poor as the one in the OP.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-buckland-review-of-autism-employment-report-and-recommendations/the-buckland-review-of-autism-employment-report-and-recommendations#making-recruitment-practices-meet-the-needs-of-autistic-applicants

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 20:10

What about my right to a reasonable adjustment?

what about the fact that what the op did is a gross misconduct?

Does she somehow get let off those because she’s autistic?

it’s dishonest and underhand it record people without their knowledge. And the op is planning to lie on her cv and at interview. About why she was let go from her last 2 jobs.

god forbid I should expect people to abide by work policies.

bigboykitty · 04/06/2026 19:53

Branleuse · 04/06/2026 14:03

I'm not ignoring it. It was a meeting she recorded for transcription purposes and the meeting would be recorded anyway and was only recorded into internal systems.

It sounds like it was a genuine error by someone trying to do their job. She apologised and now knows.
No need to make it seem weird by missing the context

She didn't apologise.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 04/06/2026 19:53

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 18:58

Yes. I was advised not to go home more than once when he was on bail because he was likely to make a better job of the attempt the next time.

I don’t want my image anywhere I can’t control it.

and yes. I’ve done the right to be forgotten with google, contacted former employers to make sure they don’t have any photos of me lurking around and deleted Facebook and insta.

I know to an extent I’ll be on cctv but the idea that some random has video of me that could be uploaded god knows where and used for eternity to train AI so it’ll lurk around forever and I don’t know the security posture of the company that was potentially used for the AI? Yes. I’m terrified. I’m at the highest possible level of risk from this man and his cronies. Verbatim quote from the police.

i took advice from the police - or rather, they came to me - and that was their advice. Part
of it. Don’t be video recorded if you can at all help it.

so I’m doing what they recommend.

i don’t understand why the op took the recording in the first place if it was being recorded anyway?

Absolutely horrible for you @Taztoy, I can’t get with the “awww but poor op… she’s young so should do what she wants poor lamb” rubbish

Isitevensummer · 04/06/2026 19:51

I didn't read your posts as weird @Taztoy .

It's disappointing to find out a job you want is one you aren't good at. My first grad job was in the buying office of a major retailer. Dream job. I was shit at it. You don't have to be autistic to find yourself in a position that doesn't work out. But what op seems to struggle with is perception of unfairness, which is hard for anyone but a particular focus for ND people. And an unreal expectation of the level of help that reasonable adjustment means. OP, coaching is a great idea.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 04/06/2026 19:50

Branleuse · 04/06/2026 18:52

Even if it was being in a meeting that was recorded by a young colleague who was transcribing it, and it was actually being recorded already and it was only on internal systems?

Bollocks! Are you openly ageist so think that describing the op as “young” is an ok to shitty, gross misconduct level behaviour?

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 18:58

Branleuse · 04/06/2026 18:52

Even if it was being in a meeting that was recorded by a young colleague who was transcribing it, and it was actually being recorded already and it was only on internal systems?

Yes. I was advised not to go home more than once when he was on bail because he was likely to make a better job of the attempt the next time.

I don’t want my image anywhere I can’t control it.

and yes. I’ve done the right to be forgotten with google, contacted former employers to make sure they don’t have any photos of me lurking around and deleted Facebook and insta.

I know to an extent I’ll be on cctv but the idea that some random has video of me that could be uploaded god knows where and used for eternity to train AI so it’ll lurk around forever and I don’t know the security posture of the company that was potentially used for the AI? Yes. I’m terrified. I’m at the highest possible level of risk from this man and his cronies. Verbatim quote from the police.

i took advice from the police - or rather, they came to me - and that was their advice. Part
of it. Don’t be video recorded if you can at all help it.

so I’m doing what they recommend.

i don’t understand why the op took the recording in the first place if it was being recorded anyway?

Branleuse · 04/06/2026 18:52

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 18:07

Perhaps - I do try to be aware but I am autistic. Im also MASSIVELY triggered by the idea of a recording of (potentially) me being out there with me not being able to control it. That terrifies me.

(I have said both these on the thread)

Even if it was being in a meeting that was recorded by a young colleague who was transcribing it, and it was actually being recorded already and it was only on internal systems?

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 18:07

Branleuse · 04/06/2026 18:02

I actually read back your posts after I thought you were even a bit weird in your replies to me just bc I said something supportive to the OP, and tbh I think maybe you just aren't very aware how you come across

Perhaps - I do try to be aware but I am autistic. Im also MASSIVELY triggered by the idea of a recording of (potentially) me being out there with me not being able to control it. That terrifies me.

(I have said both these on the thread)

Branleuse · 04/06/2026 18:02

Taztoy · 04/06/2026 14:33

I have tried to gather information from the op and she’s been really rude to me. She also called me a troll.

I actually read back your posts after I thought you were even a bit weird in your replies to me just bc I said something supportive to the OP, and tbh I think maybe you just aren't very aware how you come across

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lizzyBennet08 · 04/06/2026 16:14

Honestly op. It's going to be very difficult to win this appeal. I'm not sure I'd bother trying. They can cite any sort of reason aside from discrimination for not keeping you on even if you did have some
positive feedback as well as negative. It's a decision based on the balance . The fact that they extended your probation will be argued that they wanted to give you every chance to improve before dismissing you. Big 4 culture is notoriously cut throat and you won't be the only one not kept on. Move on and try and find something more suitable.

TreatedAsOptional · 04/06/2026 15:59

ChatGPT will help you obsess over this. Stop using it and move on with your life :)

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