AIBU to think dismissal during probation was unfair given autism adjustments?

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well played @SereneRoseRobin

I have to agree with you here. There’s a really good post above where someone is advising that it’s good practice to ask leaders how they’d like you to work, how often they want you to check in etc. I think the issue here is that some people entering the workplace are doing the opposite. Entering an already existing work culture and telling leaders and colleagues how THEY want THEM to work and how often they want someone to check in with them etc. That’s just not how most workplaces work in my experience.

Oh, wow, yes, I remember that poster. Yes, of course.

Because you can't do the job to the standard they require without adjustments they are either unwilling or unable to make. Bluntly.
They have decided this and its highly unlikely you will change their mind and get reinstated.
So all that's left here is for you to decide if you want to try and get compensation for disability discrimination from them by taking them to ET, or move on.
No one on here knows enough about the case to advise you if this is likely to be successful or not. Try the ACAS website, or citizens advice, who in some areas can refer to specialist employment advisers.

Cause you aren't capable of doing the role they need. The way you describe your adjustments its as if you want them to complete the work for you to review

This is the issue with universities and schools bending over backwards with “adjustments “. In the real world the OPs expectations are wildly unrealistic. No-one in a fast passed team has the time for that level
of hand holding and coaching. “clear written instructions, defined objectives, examples of similar work, timelines, and timely/direct feedback” may exist in some idealised HR handbook, but I’ve certainly never seen it in any workplace🤣. I don’t think we’re doing young people any favours setting them up to expect their every challenge to be pandered to in this way.

The job is not a good fit for you. The employers want to end the contract. Move on and find something else.

@Overthebow - in which case they wouldn't be reasonable adjustments if they were detrimentally affecting colleagues and their abilities to do their jobs.

I've seen someone fail probation after several adjustments were made and probation extended. They just weren't suited to the work - couldn't focus on a task and follow through to completion without assistance. Were distracted by anything and everything going on around them. Inserted themselves into every conversation in a really rude and unprofessional way. Now I'm not saying that's what the OP has done, but sometimes it's just not a good fit.

I’m autistic and work in a similar area to OP. It’s been a learning curve over the years but ultimately I’ve learnt that you can’t put things on to others in the team. Everyone has their own tasks, deadlines and things going on in their lives. Some are ND too but may not be open about it. People cannot expect reasonable adjustments in a high pressure environment that involve other team members altering their way of working or tasks. In consultancy you very much have to find your own way to be successful. It can actually be a good place for ND people to work in some sectors, but people do have to take responsibility for themselves, it doesn’t fit everybody regardless of ND.

OP it’s highly likely that a similar job, in a different company, might simply go better!

I totally understand you feel aggrieved. But sometimes you have to chalk it up to (bad) experience and start afresh.

The most important - and difficult- thing is to reflect on the experience.

The content of the analysis was ok, except under time pressure or when instructions were ambiguous.

These are key skills and many, many people (ND and NT) do not naturally know what to do in every work situation - the best advice I was given was to always ask if you don’t know, how the person you’re working for or with would like you to approach work.

Almost always, the successful new hire will seek clarity - how would you like me to keep you updated on my progress, an how often should we stop to check I’m on track?

You should always do this proactively and “manage upwards” - it’s a mechanical thing you can learn to do, without being a natural communicator. So when you start a task with a deadline, clarify with the very busy person setting the work what output they want, and how they would like you to check in during the assignment. Always a good idea to say “I’ll have the draft of xyz with you by x o’clock” or “I feel I might be a bit behind - can you spare ten minutes to direct me to ways I could do this more efficiently?” Or “I ran into an unexpected problem as follows […] I think the solution might be [xxx] but I expect this will mean I need an extra two hours. Please can you let me know if a deadline extension is possible and if not, help me to find a different solution?”

Or For example, “so I need to deliver a final report by 5pm today. Could we meet for 15 minutes at 3pm to check I’m on track on Teams? I don’t want to get to 16.55 and discover I haven’t met all the objectives.”

I think your posts are showing why it did not work for you. It sounds to me like you expected more work than was worth your input. They put things in place but you didn’t meet their expectations. The way you present professionally IS important and they obviously decided this did not fit.

reevaluate and find something that is a better fit for you.

Just move on. You're going to encounter negative experiences in the workplace if you're autistic, it's how things are. Some places are accommodating to autistic people, most aren't. You will need to put it behind you even though it's unfair and you're struggling to process it.

To the other posters. Autistic people will go over and over and over the same problem repeatedly because it's how we process things. Repeatedly searching for an answer when one is not possible still provides the person with the space to talk and get it out of their system.

Most workplaces don't have the time or energy to put accommodations in place, even if they say they will. Some places will even say they are in place, when your experience is that they're not (it's a headfuck). Ultimately, workplaces don't give a shit, they just want the work done.

Bravo! 🤣👏

You are asking for a level of input and clarity that they can’t provide. It’s obviously flipping your unfairness switch but some jobs cannot be adjusted or adapted to particular needs. Improvement during the extended probation was obviously not enough to offset their concerns. I’m sorry- it’s obviously upsetting and disappointing for you. But some jobs are not a good fit and it’s better to find out sooner rather than later.

Ah, I now recognise this poster from a previous incarnation, because this is how she always responds to posters on here -- blunt, uncapitalised, unpunctuated brief questions, without the slightest acknowledgement or thanks that people have taken the time to reply to her.

I can't remember her previous username, but she used to post about being let go from a Big 4 firm after she failed a set of (possibly accountancy) exams? And stuff about some male colleague who used to mentor her losing interest?

It's always aggrieved stuff about a workplace from which she's been let go.

okay I’ve now read your other thread. I work in a similar area. Consultancy is fast paced, you need to be able to work independently, do your own research and be confident, even as a graduate. Senior consultants in your team are not going to have the time to be providing timely, structured feedback to the extent you seem to want. They have their own tasks to be doing and it’s pressured. Consultancy can be a good fit if you have AuDHD, I’m actually diagnosed with ASD and ADHD and have done well in this area but you have to find what you’re good at and not rely on others. If you’ve had probation extended and then still not passed this isn’t the company for you, that is very rare.

Regardless if what we think , you think it’s unfair and have appealed the decision.

However, I’m not sure the job is a right fit for you. Maybe worth looking around for something else that suits you more.

There must be at least three or four, all variations on the same thing.

So your probation period was already extended and you still didn't pass it? Is it possible OP that this just wasn't the role/job for you?

Move on.

Also didn't know about previous threads.