AIBU to think dismissal during probation was unfair given autism adjustments?

Yip. Im not on any social media that identifies me now it’s too risky.

The OP doesn't sound like she's making any effort to 'adapt in a world of neuro typical people' though - nearly nine months into the job and she's still looking for a huge amount of support and feedback.

She has had significant accommodations, but won't apologise to the colleague she recorded, as she believes she should have been able to. We all of us have to curb our natural impusles in the workplace, and try to play nicely. OP sounds as if she believes this doesn't apply to her.

She's unsuitable for her role, and repeatedly asking for advice on MN isn't going to change that. She can of course bring a discrimination case, or she could look for a job that suits her better, and try to understand the social norms of the next workplace.

I always feel very uneasy when someone posts on fb pages along the lines of I'm looking for so and so, does anyone know them. It could be entirely innocent but it could be putting someone in danger when people reply. (I'm also amazed people still think it's ok to reply / allow those sort of posts).

I work in job with a fairly high neurodiverse workforce and where there is a lot of flexibility and reasonable adjustments. However, there's still professional standards wrt conduct and communications to be met. I think unless the OP reflects on what has gone wrong and her part in it, and tries to remedy that by learning some strategies, then she is likely to find similar struggles in future employment.

How is it dehumanising?

Newsflash, businesses aren't there for social good, they're there to make a profit.

It sounds like this probably isn’t the right environment for you. Consulting involves complex projects and tight deadlines. There’s a limit to how much hand holding you can receive - it’s hard to know whether you got the sufficient coaching/ feedback that you deserved or whether you expected too much.

Not quite true if the reason for termination is discriminatory as those rights (disability, pregnancy etc) start on day 1. However it seems ops dismissal was unrelated to their nd or failure to provide their suggested “reasonable adjustments. These are issues about breaches of conduct and policy which taken with less than ideal progress during probation left the employer with little alternative.

I wonder how gracious the OP would be if the positions were reversed and she had been the one recorded without permission.

I doubt she'd be satisfied with honest mistake, won't do it again.

It could be both.

I have had to leave a meeting in the past - external folk and I didn’t want to take the risk. Plus it’s easy to say anonymously but it’s harder face to face.

im sure there’s people like me in every big org - I worked somewhere else where there was a young woman who had family trying to trace her and our security were made aware.

This is just one example of the shocking levels of discrimination on here.

Sorry there are a gazillion grads out there looking for jobs, why would anyone want anyone in their team that creates so much extra work for them

Because employers and society at large need to accommodate diversity and consider that people with neuro diverse conditions such as autism are human beings having to survive and adapt in a world of neuro typical people. Your assertion "why would anyone want anyone on their team that creates so much extra work for them" is a disgusting and dehumanising thing to say.

Completely, I may well work along side someone in your position and never know. We all have a responsibility to make sure we don't compromise anyone's safety or well-being. (My organisation has turned off the ability to record, I think from a GDPR point of view, but it could be to safeguard someone)

The aim of reasonable adjustments is to reduce or remove the disadvantage caused by your disability so you can do the job. If you still can’t do it, then it’s hard to see what else they can do. It was 9 months, sounds like they gave you a chance

It sounds like they were box-ticking for diversity- easy to do when you're not going to line managers an applicant, as that list of accommodations was never going to be met in a fast moving work environment.

OP needs to change her attitude rather than blame her colleagues for not supporting her, and find a different field - local government maybe?

I would also consider moving on by applying for the civil service, as I have never met a neurotypical civil servant

I’d say about 70% of our data analysts are autistic.

They can sack you within 2 year for anything so you need to move on.

So just so I’m clear I would say these are the reasons.

1. An employer can let you go for any reason during probation and indeed before two years employment. Even if you did an outstanding job. They don’t owe you this job. No detail, no excuses. They can just decline your probation.
2. You asked your employer for reasonable adjustments for your ND. It sounds like the did a lot and were overly reasonable. What you asked for in this role wasn’t reasonable. You demanded it anyway and when you didn’t get it you felt entitled and said they were being discriminatory.
3. You don’t seem to want to listen to anyone who says you aren’t right for the eoke. You don’t accept nor see any fault in your actions.
4. You appealed a probation? Well thats new. Take the hint. They don’t want you and you aren’t right for the role.
5. Most companies cannot engage is continual feedback, rock solid boundaries, no scope creep and clear objectives 100% of the time. You are there and pad to do a job. You aren’t there for the company to be dictated to by your unreasonable demands.
6. This isn’t school. You can’t always have more time. Or work alone. Or do something over. It’s the real world and they are paying you. Time to wake up.

YABVU

It sounds like you have been done a disservice during your education. The adjustments that were made for you at school, college and uni and any pastoral support you receives are not replicated in the real world. This has left you with a huge sense of entitlement.

While employers are required to make reasonable adjustments, you also need to adjust to the workplace. You aren't entitled to a job. There are many other graduates out there who will be chosen over you if they fit in the company better than you.

Fighting this won't serve you, you need to work on yourself

@SereneRoseRobin this is layout third or fourth thread today on this whole job thing! You need to stop!

Its gross misconduct and is a usually would be grounds for dismissal outside probation. Your company will have a code of conduct for meeting and use of recording equipment that you will have had to have signed which will say recording or photographs without express permission is not allowed and will be a risk of been dismissed. The fact you were asked to say sorry and didnt is really bad

Op, did you use AI to write your OP? Your writing style in your OP and in your replies do not really match.

Did you use AI in your role? Do you rely on it to communicate?

It sounds like they gave you a lot of support and you still did not perform. It sounds like you need to be told what to do, rather than being able to work independently. This is fine in some roles, but it may be the role was not suitable for you.

You can expect reasonable adjustments, i.e. adjustments that are reasonable for the employer to accommodate. Having to dedicate staff to telling you how to do your job day to day in the long term is not reasonable.

It's becoming quite clear why they don't want to keep you.

Your attitude is rude, you can't do the job and you think the world owes you a favour.

Was it extended to give you another chance to meet expectations? And you still didn't. Isn't that the point of a probation to see if you fit and if you don't they can get rid? Otherwise many people wouldn't get a chance at all.

Thank you. The thing is, the op might not know that there’s someone with an adjustment on the call.

and yes, it restricts my life professionally and in my personal life.

You’ve responded quite bluntly and unhelpfully to questions in this thread OP, questions that people have asked to help them understand the issue.

Did you respond like this in the workplace? In a somewhat argumentative/closed manner?

When you responded “wdym” to a detailed and reasonable question from a PP I thought blimey I hope she didn’t respond like that in the workplace. The question was detailed and said what it meant. It suggested that you hadn’t actually read the question properly.

In the workplace, if you do something wrong or against policy, even if you didn’t realised it was the wrong thing to do - you apologise.

The way you’ve responded to people in this thread show that you may be quite difficult to communicate with.

If you don’t understand something, re-read it. Re-read it again. Try to process and understand it independently.

The kind of adjustments you’ve asked for would not be possible in my job. The people training and helping you also have their own jobs to do. They will not have time to take away from their own days to constantly give you very specific targeted and curated support and feedback.

If you’re not sure how to do something, do you google it? Search YouTube? Independently look for your own examples and research? Are there no examples of similar work that you could find on the work database?

OP, I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome as a female teenager, back when it was accepted wisdom that Asperger's syndrome mostly affected males. In retrospect, I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome despite my sex, because my social skills were simply that bad and my male-typical special interests made me a walking caricature of AS.

With all that in mind, are you flipping kidding me? Your posts are coming across as socially inappropriate to me, the worst masker ever! If I am not on your side reading your posts, that says it all.

As for your insistence that you deserved better/more detailed instructions at your workplace, what on earth would be the point? People on mumsnet have given their time up for free to post advice, and you visibly failed to engage by replying with one line answers. In one case, you responded with a single initialism. It's incredibly disrespectful. If that's how you treat people volunteering their free time, I rather suspect you came across as entitled to colleagues who were supporting you during their working hours, and technically being paid to mentor you.

There is a difference between reasonable adjustments and expecting to be babysat while being paid the same as your babysitter.

Have some dignity and look up the term self-improvement. Then engage in some. If you need detailed instructions on how to do that, start by researching where the shift button on your keyboard is. Then use it to consistently capitalise the beginning of your sentences. Do you see many other people in this thread abbreviating you to "u"? It's clearly a social norm on MN to type our words out in full, and you're not picking up on that. If you're missing that, what subtle social cues are you missing in the workplace? What social norms are you breaking there that you haven't noticed?

Oh, and work on developing the stamina to type multiple paragraphs without using AI to write for you.