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To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

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Jane379 · 03/06/2026 00:05

I KNOW that plenty of the men who come are not evil and don't want to commit sexual assault. But clearly a number who have come are, and there's strong evidence that male migrants are disproportionately lileky to do so.

This almost surely at least partly caused by misogynistic culture in various areas meaning back home they perceived uncovered women as permissible to assault. But surely they know it's different here? That they will likely be caught? They are at least more likely to be punished here for assault.

Or are they convinced our police system will let them off?

Or they're not aware our norms are different?

Or just don't care about the consequences?

I wonder also if criminals are in a sense selected for since they may have little to tie them to their home countries, or even be escaping punishment there.

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/06/2026 22:23

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 21:40

I am definitely not a Tommy R fan- hateful
man. But rubbishing people’s genuine concerns just feeds him and his followers. It’s quite telling that you seem to assume I’m a TR fan from what I’ve posted

Indeed. When you are accused of being a far right racist for having concerns about these issues, it is shutdown mode.
People in professional roles cannot risk being labelled a racist. It isn’t just toothless and unemployed that who are impacted or are concerned , it doesn’t mean anyone who has concerns wants to be like TR. Far from it.
What’s done is done as far as mass immigration but it needs to be stopped now, it’s out of control and costing Europe millions, so many women have already died or been sexually assaulted, it needs to stop.

HRTQueen · 03/06/2026 22:01

Wipeywipey · 03/06/2026 21:33

It isn't complicated but not letting anyone in fleeing from men doing male things isn't the answer either. Going further right like the Taliban and evangelicalism is only going to increase the fear and violence on the streets a la Tommy R as it did over the weekend. Why would anyone want to encourage that and keep perpetuating the fake narrative that these violent apes are helping or protecting women?

We can’t not openly discuss the issues of a large number of young men who are here without families, from countries where all they have known is violence and who are mostly likely to hold misogynistic views towards women and views that western woman are less worthy because of the fear that racist thugs will use this argument

they are using it anyway

do you really believe if you take 100 men raised and educated here and 100 men from let’s say Afghanistan that they would hold the same opinions about women and how women should behave and what woman’s roles are in society, it’s not just about predatory men who sexually assault women it’s the views they hold about women and the place we hold in society

we are not supporting the far right but we want open and honest conversations about the impact and the safety of women and girls

Toops · 03/06/2026 21:44

Intimate Partner Violence is horrific and disgusting but higher in Sudan, Somalia , Afghanistan. I don't want to say it, but have you also heard of FGM.

The world bank gender portal says IPV is higher in Afghanistan than the UK.

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 21:40

Wipeywipey · 03/06/2026 21:33

It isn't complicated but not letting anyone in fleeing from men doing male things isn't the answer either. Going further right like the Taliban and evangelicalism is only going to increase the fear and violence on the streets a la Tommy R as it did over the weekend. Why would anyone want to encourage that and keep perpetuating the fake narrative that these violent apes are helping or protecting women?

I am definitely not a Tommy R fan- hateful
man. But rubbishing people’s genuine concerns just feeds him and his followers. It’s quite telling that you seem to assume I’m a TR fan from what I’ve posted

Wipeywipey · 03/06/2026 21:33

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 21:30

Yes, we know that!!! But the point is that we have enough of our home grown offending men without importing groups who are MORE likely to offend against women statistically, from misogynistic societies. The two can both be true you know. It’s not complicated.

It isn't complicated but not letting anyone in fleeing from men doing male things isn't the answer either. Going further right like the Taliban and evangelicalism is only going to increase the fear and violence on the streets a la Tommy R as it did over the weekend. Why would anyone want to encourage that and keep perpetuating the fake narrative that these violent apes are helping or protecting women?

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 21:30

Wipeywipey · 03/06/2026 21:28

I think it is showing off a lot of "only migrants" single mindedness ignoring the fact most women in UK are abused by men they know.

Men are the problem, wherever they are from. Even educating them and giving them free healthcare doesn't seem to change them, just makes them better at hiding their acts. Poverty is usually a precursor to most crime but it is usually perpetuated by men. Anywhere you get a lot of poor men will not be safe for women (and other men). I don't know why stating that would make me liberal minded, just a realistic feminist who knows it doesn't matter where men come from, they are often a threat to women.

Yes, we know that!!! But the point is that we have enough of our home grown offending men without importing groups who are MORE likely to offend against women statistically, from misogynistic societies. The two can both be true you know. It’s not complicated.

Toops · 03/06/2026 21:29

Wipeywipey · 03/06/2026 21:28

I think it is showing off a lot of "only migrants" single mindedness ignoring the fact most women in UK are abused by men they know.

Men are the problem, wherever they are from. Even educating them and giving them free healthcare doesn't seem to change them, just makes them better at hiding their acts. Poverty is usually a precursor to most crime but it is usually perpetuated by men. Anywhere you get a lot of poor men will not be safe for women (and other men). I don't know why stating that would make me liberal minded, just a realistic feminist who knows it doesn't matter where men come from, they are often a threat to women.

Let's not import more men from the 3rd world.

Wipeywipey · 03/06/2026 21:28

Beachtastic · 03/06/2026 20:52

As always, I think this thread shows up the difference between women who have faced these issues personally and those who haven't. For those who haven't, this is just a political/philosophical argument and an opportunity to show how liberal-minded and fair they are. For those who have, there's a lot more at stake, and the fact that there are no clear stats from which to draw definitive conclusions actually makes things worse. Nowadays, with the internet and transparency, people can't massage data as they once did. Instead, they are simply very careful when formulating the questions to be investigated in the first place. What I'd like to know is who controls these questions and what they are afraid of.

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I think it is showing off a lot of "only migrants" single mindedness ignoring the fact most women in UK are abused by men they know.

Men are the problem, wherever they are from. Even educating them and giving them free healthcare doesn't seem to change them, just makes them better at hiding their acts. Poverty is usually a precursor to most crime but it is usually perpetuated by men. Anywhere you get a lot of poor men will not be safe for women (and other men). I don't know why stating that would make me liberal minded, just a realistic feminist who knows it doesn't matter where men come from, they are often a threat to women.

Toops · 03/06/2026 21:03

Iran was one regime oppressing people and them a new regime came in which actually learnt how to oppress people "better" and stay in power.

AlternateLook · 03/06/2026 21:00

pointythings · 03/06/2026 17:36

Oh come on now! What caused the downfall of the Shah's regime was that it was doing all the things the current regime is now also doing - it was a horrific dictatorship. So there was a revolution and sadly, people ended up going from the frying pan into the fire. Nothing to do with 'leftist women', you are making that up.

Due to the West's influence, primarily the US, the Shah went too far. Tehran ended up like Las Vegas by the end. The Islamic Revolution pushed things too far the other way, though, and look at Iran now.

Toops · 03/06/2026 20:59

trueredstart · 03/06/2026 20:56

That was ten years ago??? I thought it happened six months ago, as the first time I'd heard of it was in 2026. Utterly disgraceful.

How is this happening time and time again? Why do people bury their head in the sand about these painfully obvious issues?

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And Germany still went full open borders

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 20:57

Beachtastic · 03/06/2026 20:52

As always, I think this thread shows up the difference between women who have faced these issues personally and those who haven't. For those who haven't, this is just a political/philosophical argument and an opportunity to show how liberal-minded and fair they are. For those who have, there's a lot more at stake, and the fact that there are no clear stats from which to draw definitive conclusions actually makes things worse. Nowadays, with the internet and transparency, people can't massage data as they once did. Instead, they are simply very careful when formulating the questions to be investigated in the first place. What I'd like to know is who controls these questions and what they are afraid of.

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Well I haven’t faced these issues personally but if it looks like a duck etc… it’s just bloody common sense to me. Some people tie themselves up into knots so worried about being seen as racist. I think given the medieval attitudes to women in some countries- Pakistan, Afghanistan, parts of India, Sudan it’s not surprising that some young men come over here with those attitudes and attack women (who are not veiled/behind closed doors) these cultures are not compatible with Western living. Makes me mad. Women collateral damage as per usual.

trueredstart · 03/06/2026 20:56

HRTQueen · 03/06/2026 20:51

Yes it was

and I remember how little it was reported in some areas of the press

It was horrific yet still an issue so many want to not address ten years later

That was ten years ago??? I thought it happened six months ago, as the first time I'd heard of it was in 2026. Utterly disgraceful.

How is this happening time and time again? Why do people bury their head in the sand about these painfully obvious issues?

Beachtastic · 03/06/2026 20:52

As always, I think this thread shows up the difference between women who have faced these issues personally and those who haven't. For those who haven't, this is just a political/philosophical argument and an opportunity to show how liberal-minded and fair they are. For those who have, there's a lot more at stake, and the fact that there are no clear stats from which to draw definitive conclusions actually makes things worse. Nowadays, with the internet and transparency, people can't massage data as they once did. Instead, they are simply very careful when formulating the questions to be investigated in the first place. What I'd like to know is who controls these questions and what they are afraid of.

HRTQueen · 03/06/2026 20:51

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 20:36

Yes it was

and I remember how little it was reported in some areas of the press

It was horrific yet still an issue so many want to not address ten years later

Toops · 03/06/2026 20:50

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 20:36

But apparently we need to be welcoming. I remember people here on saying Poland is very anti refugees and then on other threads saying it's super safe. Like I wonder if there's a reason.

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 20:36

This was dreadful

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046

Tryingtobegreenfingered · 03/06/2026 20:34

Come on! The way that women are treated in some of these countries is truly shocking- of course some men are importing these attitudes when they arrive here. It’s not rocket science.

Twisterlollies · 03/06/2026 20:33

BashthatTerriesorange · 03/06/2026 20:31

You might have missed it but there has been a huge amount of work, attention and awareness raising to address abuse of girls in the homes and schools and church. The change and process in this in the decades of my life is remarkable.

So your point doesn’t stand up at all.

This.

As a Roman Catholic i supported unveiling the scourge of sexual abuse happening in the church, which they tried to cover up. Thankfully the press played a key role in reporting this and forcing their hand at reforming the Church and ousting the paedophile priests.

I don’t care that this was the Church I was born and raised into. It doesn’t come before the wellbeing of children.

Illegally18 · 03/06/2026 20:33

fabstraction · 03/06/2026 03:59

I think it depends on the person. Like most criminals, many of them just aren't very bright, have poor impulse control, and don't stop to consider the consequences. Some probably think they won't be caught or that they can lie their way out of trouble. They may not fully expect the crime will be taken seriously, if they come from a sub-culture where it may be considered acceptable to assault certain women (those not dressed 'modestly' or not of the 'correct' faith).

I agree.

EasternStandard · 03/06/2026 20:31

Toops · 03/06/2026 20:23

Do people genuinely think women are no more at risk in other nations than in the west?

Where would you feel safer a developed Western nation or the streets of Sudan?

I’m wondering too. It’s concerning because I think some don’t realise what we have.

Or maybe they do and that’s the issue. We should suffer as women do in Sudan. I really hope not, it’s horrific for them.

BashthatTerriesorange · 03/06/2026 20:31

Ihatetomatoes · 03/06/2026 20:25

We have to ask — safe from whom, and according to whose definition of threat? If concern for girls only surfaces when the accused is a racialized migrant man, and not when abuse happens in the home, school, or church, then it’s not really about protecting girls — it’s about policing the boundaries of race and nation," thinks Parmanand.

You might have missed it but there has been a huge amount of work, attention and awareness raising to address abuse of girls in the homes and schools and church. The change and process in this in the decades of my life is remarkable.

So your point doesn’t stand up at all.

Toops · 03/06/2026 20:28

If your DD was going solo tripping to Budapest Hungary you'd say "have fun". If she wanted to do to Sudan I'm pretty sure you'd be terrified for her safety. Almost as if the men in Sudan pose more of a danger.

BashthatTerriesorange · 03/06/2026 20:28

Wipeywipey · 03/06/2026 20:00

The are a far right organisation put in by US.
Where do you think the "whites are always right" ideology ends up?

You are a racist who thinks people of colour have no agency, thoughts, ambition or plans of their own but only exist as NPCs in white people’s games.

Ihatetomatoes · 03/06/2026 20:25

We have to ask — safe from whom, and according to whose definition of threat? If concern for girls only surfaces when the accused is a racialized migrant man, and not when abuse happens in the home, school, or church, then it’s not really about protecting girls — it’s about policing the boundaries of race and nation," thinks Parmanand.