To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

Non Muslims could also not inherit from Muslims which caused difficulties for Jewish or Christian women married to Muslim men ( Muslim women could only marry Muslim men but men could also marry Jews and Christians). Non muslim women would have to raise the children Muslim ( a friend divorced her Muslim husband when she realised this). Non Muslims did not have the same legal status as Muslims ( applicable to men and women) and had to pay a tax if they did not convert ( or be put to death as the third option). Some scholars only accept testimony of non Muslims in limited circumstances ( though testimony of a woman is worth less of a man anyway).

I have not heard of Judaism putting people to death for apostasy and I very much doubt that has happened unless it was in antiquity. It is still a crime in Muslim majority countries today. I have heard western conservative Muslims defending this, on the grounds that only Muslims who are public about leaving Islam are put to death ….

Free Muslim women were not supposed to be enslaved, but non Muslim women could be. That’s a biggie.

It’s worth remembering that Isis arseholes used the Qu’rans passages on slavery to justify them enslaving and raping Yazidi women ( who were also recently found enslaved in Gaza). Although obviously the vast majority of Muslims now condemn slavery ( as do Christians), the figures I have read on modern day slavery show that Muslim countries still have the biggest problem with this. Dubai is built on modern day slavery where immigrant workers have their passports removed and the official temperature in Dubai is kept beneath 50 degrees to avoid invoking the law which means the immigrant labourers have to stop working in 50+ degree temperatures

Non Muslims could also not inherit from Muslims which caused difficulties for Jewish or Christian women married to Muslim men ( Muslim women could only marry Muslim men but men could also marry Jews and Christians). Non muslim women would have to raise the children Muslim ( a friend divorced her Muslim husband when she realised this). Non Muslims did not have the same legal status as Muslims ( applicable to men and women) and had to pay a tax if they did not convert ( or be put to death as the third option). Some scholars only accept testimony of non Muslims in limited circumstances ( though testimony of a woman is worth less of a man anyway).

I have not heard of Judaism putting people to death for apostasy and I very much doubt that has happened unless it was in antiquity. It is still a crime in Muslim majority countries today. I have heard western conservative Muslims defending this, on the grounds that only Muslims who are public about leaving Islam are put to death ….

Free Muslim women were not supposed to be enslaved, but non Muslim women could be. That’s a biggie.

It’s worth remembering that Isis arseholes used the Qu’rans passages on slavery to justify them enslaving and raping Yazidi women ( who were also recently found enslaved in Gaza). Although obviously the vast majority of Muslims now condemn slavery ( as do Christians), the figures I have read on modern day slavery show that Muslim countries still have the biggest problem with this. Dubai is built on modern day slavery where immigrant workers have their passports removed and the official temperature in Dubai is kept beneath 50 degrees to avoid invoking the law which means the immigrant labourers have to stop working in 50+ degree temperatures

If slave women were muslim, whether by conversion or not, muslim men were strongly encouraged to educate, liberate or/and marry them (the latter may or may not have been a boon...)

The qu'ran does though make lawful for muslim men to have sex with their slave girls.

Yes, I do. If there were enough decent men there they would manage. There aren’t - clearly. Stop defending them, it’s sick and insulting

FFS! None of the men I worked with knew what the law was! No one had told them. When I explained it to them in detail they actually couldnt believe it and thought I was making it up!!! Also, Im a woman so why would they listen to me?

I witnessed loads of domestic abuse in family accomodation and the prepetrator would clearly explain that his wife has her period so was being difficult and why am I interfering with his family life?? They were genuinely perplexed. This is after the law was explained. One family was middle class Jordanians!! Its not just Afghans ,it anyone who comes from a country where women are second class citizens. Do we really want to import this? In addition, it cost 10k to get to the UK on a small boat. 10k!! Money which could have been spent applying for a work visa.

The person doing the minimising is you @Samysungy . You are absolutely minimising what women in Afghanistan are facing if you are pretending its like the 'control and abuse' you think women face here. As someone who has read pleadings from Afghan women to western feminists, outlining what their lives are like now under the Taliban and how they are feeling, I find your post here quite revolting in your smug playing with their destroyed lives to make deeply ignorant ideologically led points.

And btw, you were asked where would you prefer to raise your daughter. The question doesn't give you the option to choose neither, as I think you know. Its a question to get you to really reflect on the difference between the two countries by forcing you to pick one or the other. So no, despite your laughter at a pp, they were right, you have not answered the question.

@Jane379 I don’t know where they were born sorry.

Have you ever lived in a Muslim majority country? I lived in one as a young woman. Let me tell you there is NO, repeat NO comparison to this country,

In the UK, should I have the horror of being raped, the following are options:
hospital treatment
reporting to police
bringing a prosecution
being believed
not being stoned to death or outcast from society

I want to say your ignorance is terrifying and dangerous but I know you don’t have empirical experience of other, less civilised cultures, so I’ll wind my neck in and just say lucky you.

Forgive my anger; your blithe tone has really upset me.

I had a strange experience that enlightened me to the difference in cultural perceptions of women.

I had worked for many years at a multicultural corporation. I had management meetings with many Muslim men. They were kind , respectful, intelligent people.

one day we had a team building exercise where we had to stand on chairs. So I took my shoes off.

In the coming weeks three of these men made unwelcome advances to me. I couldn’t understand why after working together so long.

I found out they thought I was promiscuous because my toe nails were painted red.

My friend was 14 in the West Midlands and an adult pakistani Muslim man became her ' boyfriend' ( she was recruited by another schoolgirl who was the 'boyfriend' of his friend. Her 'boyfriend' asked her to find a 'boyfriend' for his mate). They never did anything other than go to a flat where he would have sex with her. He told her to her face that he would never does this to a woman from his own community as he would have too much respect for her.

You are deeply wrong if you think there are not cultures where women are viewed very differently (respected or despised) depending on what religion, ethnicity, behaviour, presentation or sexuality they have or are.

This isn't just a cultural thing. Treating women differently depending on whether they are Muslim or not is written into the Qu'ran and Hadith, with additional rights and respect given to muslim women. It was a way for slave women to get additional 'rights'.

They have lived in a country where women are covered from head to toe, so they are seeing for the first time : bare legs, lots of cleavage, pretty faces, long hair uncovered (blonde probably exciting, as never seen before).

They come from countries where women have no rights.

They come from countries where rape isn't a crime.

If they venture out late at night, in a City, they will have access to lots of women who are drunk, who will find it hard to fight off an attacker.

They can see from the news, that even if you get caught, and then convicted of rape, the sentence is non existent, or, even if you do go to jail, the jail is probably not that bad an option, as it'll be nicer than where they came from, they will get a roof over their head and 3 square meals a day for FREE.

AND

Many will be virgins, and those that aren't virgins haven't had sex for a VERY long time - they will be about as horny as it gets. Sexual urges and the raging horn, plus an erection in his pants, will override all common sense, in that moment.

I mean, how many times do men follow their dicks, without all the other stuff thrown in? We've seen it time, and time again, without all the extra factors listed above.

So? The British Army fought them despite how ‘scary’ they are but Afghan men won’t to save their own wives and daughters? They’ve fucked their women over for generations stop embarrassing yourself trying to excuse it

I’m perfectly capable of holding 2 thoughts but that does not mean this. Afghan men are hideously misogynistic and their country comes out time and time and time again as the worst in the world for women who are treated like dirt. I make NO apologies for blaming THE MEN for how THE WOMEN are treated.

And yes they are cowards who ran away when given the best opportunity to defend their country that they had ever had. Because they don’t give a shit.

No, don’t prioritise rural areas. They are the last bastions of an age where life wasn’t drained of colour, freedom and possibility. People who live there appreciate, revere and respect the culture.

I used to wonder how Soviet Russians could swallow such utter horseshit about things being good in their uniform grey groupthink drab dead lives.

But I’ve watched the country I love go that way for decades. Importing millions from the incompatible cultures some of us were thrilled to escape, has been a total disaster. No integration and two-tier everything has simultaneously emboldened those who have a dystopian world view.

I weep for my adopted country. I will vote for Rupert Lowe. The most unexpected revolutionary figure. No beret or guillotine; a ruddy face and a Barbour and the only patriot on the horizon.

Ironic really. I’m espousing colour and freedom in the country, not the towns.

Of course kids want lights and fun. But our cities are no go crime ridden shitholes not the exciting place you’d go for a career or to find a partner.

Our rural towns and high streets are so decimated there are no longer options for the horses that want to bring up young families in safety and in a familiar culture.

Absolutely. How are they going to get them out when they can't leave the house or speak? How long can they survive with no young male relative? It can take up to 5 years to get to the UK, then get work, then claim asylum etc etc. The women they have left in a hell hole to fend for themselves will be dead in that time.

Look at the Poland rape rates astronomically lower than the UK. Also very low in the VAWG survey.