To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

Even one more rape from someone from a migrant background is too many as we women have enough to deal with , with home grown rapists ,thank you! I have spent many years working with refugees and yes, its the culture. Many young men coming from places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan literally have no reference points to understand this society. Those in Home Office accomodation rarely receive any kind of cultural orientation and therefore view our society through their own cultural lense. Women are mothers or whores and women walking around scantily dressed, on their own are clearly prositutes so its normal to rape them. There were many rapes in home office accomodation when I was working with the cohort.
These young men are often disgusted with our society and consider us degenerate and heathen. However, they love the economic opportunities afforded by living here. Please dont be naive. I used to be very left wing about this sort of thing and after workingn n the sector I now appreciate that there are some cultures that literally cannot be integrated into this society and I fear for British Young Girls who will have to deal with the threat these young men pose.
If I had my way we would only allow women and child refugees to remain in the UK. They pose no threat to other women and children and will integrate much faster without the men. In addition, when in comes to civil conflict , we have no ide if the men we are importing are in fact war criminals and no way to find out.

This. If you compare migrants to the whole population, women, all ages etc, they look like they offend more. When you compare them to a similar group of young males, those differences disappear. But many people prefer to rely on prejudice rather than facts.

This kind of thread is always divided, though, between those who cling to idealism and those who have direct experience of living somewhere that makes certain inconvenient truths starkly obvious.

This is quite an interesting response and shows how even when faced with facts and data polarised views refuse to change.

Previous posters have claimed "but where's the evidence that certain foreign nationals are more likely per capita to commit sex crimes than UK nationals ".

Then the data is provided, this usually elicits a response of challenging the source, the data or simply refusing to believe it.

My link was a UK Parliament and official Government database, unless you think that is "bogus".

Following a FoI request the Centre of Migration Observatory published a report that Afghan nationals were 22 times more likely to commit sex crimes in the UK than UK nationals.

This was criticised by the Migration Observatory for using 2021 data on the number of Afghan nationals in the UK. The Migration Observatory claimed the true figure as Afghan nationals only being 14.5 times more likely to commit sex crimes than IK nationals.

Well men from Afghanistan are leaving their female relatives without a male protector. Women can't go out without men. Women can't work, so they'll starve to death if no male relatives. Women are probably more at risk of rape in Afghanistan than anywhere else - girls are essentially sold into sex slavery and this isn't even against the law! There is no coherent argument where leaving women behind in Afghanistan is the moral thing to do.

Like many native born men, they have never been taught to control their violent impulses.

Well we used to have family reunion until recently and other EU countries have or still do have this option.

It may be hard, but it’s one plan out of limited options for the whole family.

The Pianist of Syria account details how his family decided he would make an attempt to escape solo.

excuse me but "assault" and "encounter" are different things. I do not believe that most women are assaulted as children, or indeed ever.

Are there actually people in this country that don't believe there are cultures that, at best, see women and girls as second class class citizens?

Wow.

Great - very easy to say. Don’t forget it just meant they’d definitely all be tortured slowly then die.

If they fled they hoped it wouldn’t happen to their family if they weren’t there. If they got sanctuary in another country they hoped for family reunion.

Many wives tell their husbands to try for the family.

I can recommend reading ‘The Pianist of Syria’ - don’t be worried he came here, he went to Germany. It is a harrowing read and details the discussions he had with his wife - like is it better she goes with him and face definite rape or not.

It’s not much of a fact as women and children will find it very hard to join later.

Well said. Noticeable also with Ukranian refugees that the fit men stayed and fought and mostly it was women and children coming here.

Conclusions are not difficult to draw.

And what am I supposed to be seeing ?

It’s hardly a fantasy ffs - discussion of migration doesn’t mean we should ignore the facts of it.

Yes, they leave their mothers, sisters and daughters to fend for themselves in the most toxic patriarchal society where women don't have human rights or access to medical care and girls are sold as children into sex slavery, whilst they head off to live off the British taxpayer. What lovely men, leaving their female relatives to death and torture whilst they head over here.

How about deport all the Afghan men and pay for flights for the same number of Afghan women and children to come here and take their place. The women need asylum more and pose no risk of rape.

We already have enough British rapists, we don't need more.

My husband would rather stay with us and die than leave his kids and wife to be tortured.

Not anymore. Labour have pretty much made it impossible for women and girls to join later.

Umm I have to object to this.

Did you see the fall of Kabul? Did you see how the Taliban, under Trump’s arrangement, took control of Afghanistan?

Have you any, any idea of how the Taliban behave to whom they consider traitors?

It is simply not true the men left women and children then - many, even most, families who could get out/assistance from other countries stayed together. Of course many ran - anything to escape torture from the Taliban when there was no chance of winning - but many ran in family groups - some hoped if they ran then their family may possibly just be safer as well.

Nowadays any family requesting passports will only get so many - not all. Not that they can book travel. Women can’t travel without a man - I mean anywhere not just onto a plane - the men have the best, even only, chance of getting out. Afghanistan bordering countries are going to be no better for women/families escaping either.

Sorry we’re not falling for this absolute fantasy. Do you even hear yourself? Genuinely?

Because they've run out of little girls to sell? Jesus christ, imagine empathising with the men from that story.

20 years spent barely training anyone and certainly not equipping them with the means to change their society for the better.

You know that most migrants travelling via irregular routes are male due to the costs and risks of those routes ? They seek asylum and then apply for their families to come over safely and legally later.

@DreadedInn sorry didn’t mean to reply to you twice!

Yes. This is one of the debates that gets misunderstood when it moves to the general public. Researchers consistently find large differences. The debates are about why.

Just google rape statistics per European country and look at the countries where women are raped the most and the least.

Then compare that to the countries that take in most migrants and the countries that have refused to take them.

Its not coincidence.

The taliban.
Are you seriously suggesting that women living under the taliban are no more likely to be victims of rape or misogyny, than women here are?

85% of women in Pakistan report to have experienced domestic violence, so are you claiming Pakistani women are more likely to lie than British women, or do you accept the Pakistani men are more likely to abuse a woman? It has to be one or the other, doesn't it?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11702125/