To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

I actually agree. I worked in those hotels when the protests were happening and all they did was traumatise already traumatised little kids. It was incredibly cruel as many of the hotels house women and children who have suffered terrible things and children who were still screaming at night after experiencing bombing The way to address this is through the proper channels. Writing to your MP etc. Im actually pretty please with Shabana Mahmoods policies. They really should help. My view is that we should simply do what we did with the Ukrainians. Homes for refugees but just women and children with no way to bring adult male members. In this way we can compassionately help the most vulnerable and ensure integration as they will spend the first 6 months living in British Homes and being helped by those who have volunteered and who have cultural capital.
Better still, rural areas should be prioritised so that refugees have no choice but to become completely immersed in British Culture.

I actually agree. I worked in those hotels when the protests were happening and all they did was traumatise already traumatised little kids. It was incredibly cruel as many of the hotels house women and children who have suffered terrible things and children who were still screaming at night after experiencing bombing The way to address this is through the proper channels. Writing to your MP etc. Im actually pretty please with Shabana Mahmoods policies. They really should help. My view is that we should simply do what we did with the Ukrainians. Homes for refugees but just women and children with no way to bring adult male members. In this way we can compassionately help the most vulnerable and ensure integration as they will spend the first 6 months living in British Homes and being helped by those who have volunteered and who have cultural capital.
Better still, rural areas should be prioritised so that refugees have no choice but to become completely immersed in British Culture.

We don’t keep the data which is why there’s no ‘proof’. So it’s easy to demand evidence knowing full well this isn’t recorded. Sweden is trying to get a grip on it but there’s radio silence where a proper government run study should be.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45269764

Don’t be so bloody ridiculous. This very voluntary and deliberate faux confusion over ‘X men are more likely to offend than Y men’ and ‘Y men never offend at all’ is absolutely pathetic.

I actually think migration is a global problem that should be addressed globally. We have to understand it will not stop - humans have always migrated plus there are wars and also the climate is making some places uninhabitable (reasons not for debate here).

This is obviously a naive hopeless idea I just daydream about, so in reality yes every country has to consider details of migration- hopefully some can work together.

I also think governments of every shade should be more honest about immigration- reasons, facts (the illegal asylum claimants really does grind my gears for eg).

Hatred is useful for rich and/or powerful people - it sows division and stops anyone looking at what they are doing.

I despise the hatred - I will never accept that an asylum claimant doing an abhorrent crime means folk should gather round other hotels being vile, attempt to break in, and even set fire to them.

Protest properly against the government- against the fat cats making the money off it.

Whilst this hatred and division continues there will never be a rational discussion as people are polarised and either side of debate feels nearly obliged to defend it beyond even reason at times.

Its it school time? You must be missing lessons

This simply is not true - many Afghan men have been desperate to get their female relatives out of there.

I honestly can’t listen to another second of these desperate phony lies, because it’s actually making me very angry.

I actually think migration is a global problem that should be addressed globally. We have to understand it will not stop - humans have always migrated plus there are wars and also the climate is making some places uninhabitable (reasons not for debate here).

This is obviously a naive hopeless idea I just daydream about, so in reality yes every country has to consider details of migration- hopefully some can work together.

I also think governments of every shade should be more honest about immigration- reasons, facts (the illegal asylum claimants really does grind my gears for eg).

Hatred is useful for rich and/or powerful people - it sows division and stops anyone looking at what they are doing.

I despise the hatred - I will never accept that an asylum claimant doing an abhorrent crime means folk should gather round other hotels being vile, attempt to break in, and even set fire to them.

Protest properly against the government- against the fat cats making the money off it.

Whilst this hatred and division continues there will never be a rational discussion as people are polarised and either side of debate feels nearly obliged to defend it beyond even reason at times.

Well guess you also have issues with rich/powerful men then - Epstein anyone - what accounts for their reprehensible behaviours?

Well guess you also have issues with rich/powerful men then - Epstein anyone - what accounts for their reprehensible behaviours?

Why would I have problems with nationalities which don’t treat women like scum?

You can make any excuses you want, they’re hollow and we all know it.

Absolutely - but its a reflection of many factors:

• malnutrition affecting development
• poor education
• western testing methods

Its not necessarily a reflection of underlying potential/capacity, its focussed on a very academic system.

It’s a very male centric system and laws exist to ensure they can get here at the same time as many policies trying to stop them.

There’s a vast profit made too, listening to a piece on this rn on R4, women compelled to have sex to pay for passage.

And if the response is more safe routes then some idea of how many places should be offered to meet the demand for how many would like to be here.

People on MN see this data and ignore it completely.

Precisely. I think it was Denmark who released information on their stats on SA recently, and the results are entirely predictable.

This.
I cannot understand why father, brother, uncle, son, allow this happen to their female family members. I can only assume they think that it works, it benefits them, it entitles the to use and hurt women outside of their family and sometimes in families, uncle buying young niece for marriage. Absolutely stomach churning.
The amount of children being trafficked from these countries around Europe now is equally disturbing.

Backwards culture incompatible with the west. There are European nations who do have clear per capita state on SA. The data is clear. I think we have data here as well.

People need to stop ignoring the issue that exists.

So? The British Army fought them despite how ‘scary’ they are but Afghan men won’t to save their own wives and daughters? They’ve fucked their women over for generations stop embarrassing yourself trying to excuse it

We should never have invaded any countries in the ME. I feel desperately sorry for the women and children, and some of the men, but we can’t turn the clock back. Thankfully the govt seem to have got the memo with their lack of action in Iran. But that doesn’t mean we should open the floodgates and allow the entire population of Afghanistan to come here.

This simply is not true - many Afghan men have been desperate to get their female relatives out of there.

It is also pretty impossible to go against the Taliban - it’s not the French resistance in WW2 supported by many other countries. No other country troubles about the place do they.

Yes, the stats sound appalling - the Taliban themselves are responsible for how it is there mainly - and there is nothing much any resistors to the regime can do about it.

You seem to have a real issue with Afghan men - no other nationalities? we promised their safety when they helped us in the war though so there’s that to consider. They are not all bad - no group is - integration could be trialled - many people have asked about Homes for Afghans similar to Homes for Ukrainians but that was never picked up by the government- that may have helped.

We are not importing people ffs - they’re not cattle -,with asylum we are meeting our obligations under UNCHR, other international laws, and even abiding by our own case law on the matter.

I mean I could go on and say we hardly helped matters in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq lately but that’s too big a concept here I think.

If you’re talking about legal migration we are still not ‘importing’ - people apply to come here, for various reasons, and they are granted entry or refused.

Yes we do need to integrate people better.

I’m perfectly capable of holding 2 thoughts but that does not mean this. Afghan men are hideously misogynistic and their country comes out time and time and time again as the worst in the world for women who are treated like dirt. I make NO apologies for blaming THE MEN for how THE WOMEN are treated.

And yes they are cowards who ran away when given the best opportunity to defend their country that they had ever had. Because they don’t give a shit.

We are not importing people ffs - they’re not cattle -,with asylum we are meeting our obligations under UNCHR, other international laws, and even abiding by our own case law on the matter.

I mean I could go on and say we hardly helped matters in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq lately but that’s too big a concept here I think.

If you’re talking about legal migration we are still not ‘importing’ - people apply to come here, for various reasons, and they are granted entry or refused.

Yes we do need to integrate people better.