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To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

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Jane379 · 03/06/2026 00:05

I KNOW that plenty of the men who come are not evil and don't want to commit sexual assault. But clearly a number who have come are, and there's strong evidence that male migrants are disproportionately lileky to do so.

This almost surely at least partly caused by misogynistic culture in various areas meaning back home they perceived uncovered women as permissible to assault. But surely they know it's different here? That they will likely be caught? They are at least more likely to be punished here for assault.

Or are they convinced our police system will let them off?

Or they're not aware our norms are different?

Or just don't care about the consequences?

I wonder also if criminals are in a sense selected for since they may have little to tie them to their home countries, or even be escaping punishment there.

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MandingoAteMyBaby · 03/06/2026 12:46

1dayatatime · 03/06/2026 11:55

What is being compared is males.

Yes you could make the argument that Afghan refugees are statistically younger than the UK national males.

Again though you show the classic response of disputing the data or the source of data that does fit your existing biased opinion. Please try to look at the facts not your emotions.

Even if you choose to discard the view of the Centre for Migration Control analysis that Afghan nationals in the UK are 22 times more likely to commit sex crimes than UK nationals as "paid for by right wing lobbyists " then what is your view on the left Migration Observatory findings that dispute the "22 times more likely " figure and suggest that Afghan nationals are is 14.5 times more likely to sex crimes in the UK than UK nationals.

Are they biased as well? At what point do you start to question that maybe just maybe admitting migrants into the UK with very different cultures and very different attitudes to women might just become an increased risk to women in the UK. And whether that is a price worth paying?

The Migration Observatory agrees with my opinion.

Ben Brindle, a researcher at the Migration Observatory, who carried out the analysis, said: “I think it’s likely that asylum seekers are more likely to commit crimes, but that’s in good part due to some of the other characteristics that those people tend to have.
“For instance, asylum seekers are more likely to be young men and young men are more likely to commit crime. In a perfect world you’d want to be comparing a young male Brit to a young male asylum seeker to try and account for that but we can’t do that with the statistics that we’ve got.”

Why does he agree ? Because it is what the data tells him. No emotions involved at all.

Whammyammy · 03/06/2026 12:38

To commit rape means you have zero respect for humankind and the law. Yet they are welcomed with open arms by many women?

MifaoCD · 03/06/2026 12:31

Why is it that the Gov on their own website advise women not to travel to these countries for their safety? They specifically talk about rape, sexual assault, forced marriage, sex trafficking and FGM.

If I decided to pack a bag and travel to any of these countries alone I would be called insane. I could pretty much guarantee to be assaulted.

But we blindly allow men from these places, undocumented and here by illegal means to stay here, unrestricted and free to do what they like.

What country could I break into without identification and not be immediately detained and deported?

So we acknowledge that these men are a problem but suddenly because they step foot on British soil we are told they won't do what they've always done?

bigboykitty · 03/06/2026 12:30

'Yeah I don't care if the data's right or not, I just want to say immigrants are rapists so I'm gonna say it'.

Toops · 03/06/2026 12:01

Why do people just ignore the data? Even if the data in the UK isn't the best, what about data from our friends in Europe? Why do people ignore that in their country of origin VAWG is absolutely atrocious.

Per capita rape (which is such a disgusting horrible crime) is around 100 per 100k in the UK and only 1 per 100k in Poland. And I think to myself why that is.

Toops · 03/06/2026 11:55

India has no codified asylum-processing law requiring airport immigration to admit you into a formal asylum procedure. We can do this as well.

1dayatatime · 03/06/2026 11:55

MandingoAteMyBaby · 03/06/2026 11:08

What is being compared in those statistics ?

Afghan migrants are overwhelmingly young males. So their “per-capita” is among a population of young males.

The British “per-capita” is measured against the whole British population - Grandmas included.

It would be appropriate if The Centre for Migration Control (which is in fact just one guy with a remit to faux-scientifically blame migrants for anything and everything, paid for by right-wing lobbyists) used the same young male demographic as the background population for their UK figures.

But they didn’t. Why ?

What is being compared is males.

Yes you could make the argument that Afghan refugees are statistically younger than the UK national males.

Again though you show the classic response of disputing the data or the source of data that does fit your existing biased opinion. Please try to look at the facts not your emotions.

Even if you choose to discard the view of the Centre for Migration Control analysis that Afghan nationals in the UK are 22 times more likely to commit sex crimes than UK nationals as "paid for by right wing lobbyists " then what is your view on the left Migration Observatory findings that dispute the "22 times more likely " figure and suggest that Afghan nationals are is 14.5 times more likely to sex crimes in the UK than UK nationals.

Are they biased as well? At what point do you start to question that maybe just maybe admitting migrants into the UK with very different cultures and very different attitudes to women might just become an increased risk to women in the UK. And whether that is a price worth paying?

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 03/06/2026 11:48

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 03/06/2026 11:40

All the talk about 'bringing their female relatives later' in regard to single Afghan men. No, their female relatives will be dead in the time it takes them to get to the UK. Any man leaving his female relatives in Afghanistan is saying loudly and clearly he doesn't care if they die. Women only have any hope of surviving in Afghanistan if they have male relatives THERE to support and help them.

Absolutely. How are they going to get them out when they can't leave the house or speak? How long can they survive with no young male relative? It can take up to 5 years to get to the UK, then get work, then claim asylum etc etc. The women they have left in a hell hole to fend for themselves will be dead in that time.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 03/06/2026 11:40

All the talk about 'bringing their female relatives later' in regard to single Afghan men. No, their female relatives will be dead in the time it takes them to get to the UK. Any man leaving his female relatives in Afghanistan is saying loudly and clearly he doesn't care if they die. Women only have any hope of surviving in Afghanistan if they have male relatives THERE to support and help them.

MsJinks · 03/06/2026 11:39

50sandFabulous · 03/06/2026 11:17

Imagine our army on the beaches. Imagine that every man arriving on a small boat, gets loaded into another boat, and taken back to France and left on the beach there, and then small boat is confiscated and destroyed. How long would it take for men to stop paying £10k for passage across the channel?

Operation Sovereign Borders in Australia did exactly this, and the problem was solved almost overnight.

Why aren't we doing this?

Could it be France wouldn’t take them? They’re not French citizens and so no need to take them. We could of course go to war with France 👀

Could it be the military won’t get involved? Already the navy said no when these ideas were floated previously.

Its not asylum claimants making it shit in the U.K. but I doubt you’d listen to those facts - but a genuine question now - if all asylum claimants were barred from the U.K. would that be sufficient to settle you, or would you then want to look at refugees granted asylum already, anyone with LTR?

I do think that actually there is little consensus on who people wish not to be here - and this will be a problem - some focus on hotels, some on Islam, some on non British - a huge range of ideas and I doubt many could be satisfied.

Toops · 03/06/2026 11:35

There are country where VAWG is absolutely atrocious. Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan etc. If things are bad here, no way are things better there. Yet somehow taking the men from these nations is all okay?

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 03/06/2026 11:35

AlternateLook · 03/06/2026 10:38

Nobody's saying anything of the sort. Of course, we know sexual crimes are commonly committed by indigenous men, but per head of population, that pales in comparison to that which is committed by foreign men, particularly of a certain culture.

And the more that men who think women aren't fully human are imported and prioritised the less we'll be able to deal with the white British rapists. For a start, less prison space.

Rape is already pretty much legal and much of the Judiciary prioritise the rapist over the victim - why on earth should we do something that makes this worse?

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 03/06/2026 11:30

Dmsandfloatydress · 03/06/2026 08:45

Even one more rape from someone from a migrant background is too many as we women have enough to deal with , with home grown rapists ,thank you! I have spent many years working with refugees and yes, its the culture. Many young men coming from places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan literally have no reference points to understand this society. Those in Home Office accomodation rarely receive any kind of cultural orientation and therefore view our society through their own cultural lense. Women are mothers or whores and women walking around scantily dressed, on their own are clearly prositutes so its normal to rape them. There were many rapes in home office accomodation when I was working with the cohort.
These young men are often disgusted with our society and consider us degenerate and heathen. However, they love the economic opportunities afforded by living here. Please dont be naive. I used to be very left wing about this sort of thing and after workingn n the sector I now appreciate that there are some cultures that literally cannot be integrated into this society and I fear for British Young Girls who will have to deal with the threat these young men pose.
If I had my way we would only allow women and child refugees to remain in the UK. They pose no threat to other women and children and will integrate much faster without the men. In addition, when in comes to civil conflict , we have no ide if the men we are importing are in fact war criminals and no way to find out.

Hear hear! We have enough home grown rapists, we don't need more. Even one more is one too many.

Taking women refugees in similar numbers would not pose the same risk and generally speaking they also need refuge more than the men.

Weeallthewayhome · 03/06/2026 11:29

MandingoAteMyBaby · 03/06/2026 11:15

Ironic really.

Given that rural areas suffer from young people moving away from them in droves to seek exactly that colour and freedom you espouse in urban areas.

Ironic really. I’m espousing colour and freedom in the country, not the towns.

Of course kids want lights and fun. But our cities are no go crime ridden shitholes not the exciting place you’d go for a career or to find a partner.

Our rural towns and high streets are so decimated there are no longer options for the horses that want to bring up young families in safety and in a familiar culture.

Toops · 03/06/2026 11:29

Not every country is party to the refugee convention. We have to be strict and harsh to them unfortunately.

50sandFabulous · 03/06/2026 11:17

Imagine our army on the beaches. Imagine that every man arriving on a small boat, gets loaded into another boat, and taken back to France and left on the beach there, and then small boat is confiscated and destroyed. How long would it take for men to stop paying £10k for passage across the channel?

Operation Sovereign Borders in Australia did exactly this, and the problem was solved almost overnight.

Why aren't we doing this?

MandingoAteMyBaby · 03/06/2026 11:15

Weeallthewayhome · 03/06/2026 11:10

No, don’t prioritise rural areas. They are the last bastions of an age where life wasn’t drained of colour, freedom and possibility. People who live there appreciate, revere and respect the culture.

I used to wonder how Soviet Russians could swallow such utter horseshit about things being good in their uniform grey groupthink drab dead lives.

But I’ve watched the country I love go that way for decades. Importing millions from the incompatible cultures some of us were thrilled to escape, has been a total disaster. No integration and two-tier everything has simultaneously emboldened those who have a dystopian world view.

I weep for my adopted country. I will vote for Rupert Lowe. The most unexpected revolutionary figure. No beret or guillotine; a ruddy face and a Barbour and the only patriot on the horizon.

Ironic really.

Given that rural areas suffer from young people moving away from them in droves to seek exactly that colour and freedom you espouse in urban areas.

Weeallthewayhome · 03/06/2026 11:10

Dmsandfloatydress · 03/06/2026 10:18

I actually agree. I worked in those hotels when the protests were happening and all they did was traumatise already traumatised little kids. It was incredibly cruel as many of the hotels house women and children who have suffered terrible things and children who were still screaming at night after experiencing bombing The way to address this is through the proper channels. Writing to your MP etc. Im actually pretty please with Shabana Mahmoods policies. They really should help. My view is that we should simply do what we did with the Ukrainians. Homes for refugees but just women and children with no way to bring adult male members. In this way we can compassionately help the most vulnerable and ensure integration as they will spend the first 6 months living in British Homes and being helped by those who have volunteered and who have cultural capital.
Better still, rural areas should be prioritised so that refugees have no choice but to become completely immersed in British Culture.

No, don’t prioritise rural areas. They are the last bastions of an age where life wasn’t drained of colour, freedom and possibility. People who live there appreciate, revere and respect the culture.

I used to wonder how Soviet Russians could swallow such utter horseshit about things being good in their uniform grey groupthink drab dead lives.

But I’ve watched the country I love go that way for decades. Importing millions from the incompatible cultures some of us were thrilled to escape, has been a total disaster. No integration and two-tier everything has simultaneously emboldened those who have a dystopian world view.

I weep for my adopted country. I will vote for Rupert Lowe. The most unexpected revolutionary figure. No beret or guillotine; a ruddy face and a Barbour and the only patriot on the horizon.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 03/06/2026 11:08

1dayatatime · 03/06/2026 09:05

Again another post that denies actual facts and evidence. It is exactly as I explained:

The Centre for Migration Control report showed that Afghan nationals were 22 times more likely to be convicted of sex offences than British nationals.

Madeleine Sumption, the director of the Migration Observatory however disputes these figures estimates the rate to be 14.5 – not 22 – times higher for Afghan nationals.

So in summary Afghan nationals are between 14.5 to 22 times more likely to commit sex crimes than British nationals.

Yet still I'm sure that you will either refuse or dispute these figures.

What is being compared in those statistics ?

Afghan migrants are overwhelmingly young males. So their “per-capita” is among a population of young males.

The British “per-capita” is measured against the whole British population - Grandmas included.

It would be appropriate if The Centre for Migration Control (which is in fact just one guy with a remit to faux-scientifically blame migrants for anything and everything, paid for by right-wing lobbyists) used the same young male demographic as the background population for their UK figures.

But they didn’t. Why ?

EasternStandard · 03/06/2026 11:08

Whatdomenactuallydo · 03/06/2026 11:06

Why not? It worked for Ukrainians. Just let it be known that we won't be accepting any asylum claims from men at all. Men cause almost all of the problems people are fleeing from anyway. We keep your women and kids safe and you brave men go home and fix your country.

This could happen but you’d need an Aus style system with humanitarian visas.

Whatdomenactuallydo · 03/06/2026 11:06

trueredstart · 03/06/2026 10:26

@Dmsandfloatydress It's a nice, idyllic idea but it would not work.

Homes for refugees but just women and children with no way to bring adult male members.
The problem is that the rest of the world sends their men, not their women.They are not the same as us.

Better still, rural areas should be prioritised so that refugees have no choice but to become completely immersed in British Culture.
They've ruined the cities, and now we should ruin the last bastions of British culture? No thanks.

Why not? It worked for Ukrainians. Just let it be known that we won't be accepting any asylum claims from men at all. Men cause almost all of the problems people are fleeing from anyway. We keep your women and kids safe and you brave men go home and fix your country.

Ponoka7 · 03/06/2026 10:58

WellThatsAlrightThen · 03/06/2026 00:28

They do know it’s different here otherwise they would be raping women in the middle of the day in the supermarket. It’s kept secret, hidden away, done in the dark. I do agree that most women’s first sexual assault expirienced as a child.

There have been cases of women and girls being raped, after being dragged off the street, during the day. It could be that they don't realise that our Police will react.

AlternateLook · 03/06/2026 10:38

oldFoolMe · 03/06/2026 09:43

Posts like this are such a trigger for me, it makes me feel like being abused as a child by a white english man is minimised, that its only migrants who do such things. The problem is men.

Nobody's saying anything of the sort. Of course, we know sexual crimes are commonly committed by indigenous men, but per head of population, that pales in comparison to that which is committed by foreign men, particularly of a certain culture.

MsJinks · 03/06/2026 10:37

Twisterlollies · 03/06/2026 10:33

The hatred of Afghan women by the men that are supposed to protect them?… oh wait

I could never be more upset about ‘hatred’ as a concept than I am the rape, torture and paedophilia going on in Afghanistan. You can hold two thoughts at once.

I’m sorry - what had this to do with how we protest outside hotels? How we handle immigration?

You are super focussed on Afghanistan - it’s becoming a bit of a concern tbh. This stuff happens all over the world though Afghanistan is under nearly the worst regime in the world. You must spend your life very, very upset and I recommend you step off the news and sm to avoid hearing anything distressing to you.

And until and unless you have personally walked in those shoes of Afghan people I’d hold off these extreme judgments.

Twisterlollies · 03/06/2026 10:33

MsJinks · 03/06/2026 10:29

Thank you. It’s certainly the hatred upsets me most - I actually don’t think that even if a hotel housed a full set of criminals that we should try and attack/burn it down - I don’t think it’s great for our society - it isn’t part of our values and it saddens me - there are other ways.

It is particularly horrible for traumatised people - it must have been hard to work there. One counter protest at a hotel I attended that should have been the day they played footie with other local teams - obviously they were locked down. This doesn’t help with integration though and nor does hearing folk screaming ‘paedo’ ‘go home’ either tbf. I counter this to let them know some folk are ok here. But there are many better ways to protest.

I actually don’t like Labour’s immigration rhetoric or policies - but I’m ok to agree to differ on that - what I’m not sure about is that these policies are addressing people’s concerns, directly, and reducing immigration massively - what else is required?

The hatred of Afghan women by the men that are supposed to protect them?… oh wait

I could never be more upset about ‘hatred’ as a concept than I am the rape, torture and paedophilia going on in Afghanistan. You can hold two thoughts at once.

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