AIBU to think some people on here are way too obsessed with not being seen as racist?

Sometimes the naked eye is just as useful.

It used to be that we all understood what racism was: calling a black person horrible names; denying work to an Irish person; beating up an Asian man for being Asian; graffiti on a synagogue. Laws were introduced to combat these things and they because less socially acceptable (although of course they didn't disappear altogether, unfortunately).

The problem is that as that old style racism was mostly being sorted out, a new style of racism had to be invented to keep the DEI industry going. This included things like microaggressions, anti-colonialism, defunding the police etc. As actual racism became less and less of an actual problem, the fight against racism because more intense, judgemental and puritanical, which lead to increased hypocrisy, fear and virtue-signalling. In a system that judges every arrest of a black man as racist and posts everything a police officer does online, of course that's going to distort how people behave.

It used to be that we all understood what racism was: calling a black person horrible names; denying work to an Irish person; beating up an Asian man for being Asian; graffiti on a synagogue. Laws were introduced to combat these things and they because less socially acceptable (although of course they didn't disappear altogether, unfortunately).

The problem is that as that old style racism was mostly being sorted out, a new style of racism had to be invented to keep the DEI industry going. This included things like microaggressions, anti-colonialism, defunding the police etc. As actual racism became less and less of an actual problem, the fight against racism because more intense, judgemental and puritanical, which lead to increased hypocrisy, fear and virtue-signalling. In a system that judges every arrest of a black man as racist and posts everything a police officer does online, of course that's going to distort how people behave.

Yes I know what you are referring to as well.

And it’s certainly not empirical evidence.

Why can’t we show compassion for everyone who is a victim of a horrendous crime and stop ignoring the fact that far more rapes/assaults/murders in this country are committed by white men. Male violence is the problem, across every ethnicity!
I was ready for this ending. So predictable on MN! It started well ...and then has to end with but as white men commit more crime, we should give them as much importance....

I know what I am referring to and repeated attempts to minimise a societal problem isn't going to change my mind. That report and its findings were taken in such a way that fidnt privide balance. Policing without fear or favour has long since gone.

Why can’t we show compassion for everyone who is a victim of a horrendous crime and stop ignoring the fact that far more rapes/assaults/murders in this country are committed by white men. Male violence is the problem, across every ethnicity!
I was ready for this ending. So predictable on MN! It started well ...and then has to end with but as white men commit more crime, we should give them as much importance....

It’s not my opinion. A casual glance at British policing for decades (especially in the 60s, 70s, 90s), the Macpherson report, disproportionality in anything from stop and search to minors being strip searched out of the presence of a suitable adult and Met police choice in media release shows that no, “race shaping policing” is categorically not at the most extreme it’s ever been.

You are confusing your emotion with empirical data.

In your opinion. If that's not the case why is parliament addressing the exact point I've made?

He was literally carrying a knife…..sorry two knives, legally. Are you not following the facts.

This is such a load of nonsense.

has it never been known for race to shape policing as where we are at now.

You are wrong. Chinese Muslim are ethnically different to the indigenous Chinese. And so on. If ethnically Chinese people worship Islam they remain Chinese
To follow the logic of what you are saying is that all Europeans must be Christians. If an Englishman converts to Islam does he become a Muslim? No
I know plenty of Muslims that do not practice Islam or follow its dictates they are all integrated follow western laws and social norms.

As in my lifetime, has it never been known for race to shape policing as where we are at now. Great to see it discussed in Parliament because its a recognised problem. Just some are refusing to see it.

Yeah, as a Muslim, I agree that Islam is incompatible with Western values.

Muslim kids are taught to respect their parents instead of swearing at them and treating them like garbage. Fathers are expected to actually raise their children instead of acting like "babysitting" their own kids is some heroic favour.

A lot of modern Western men want “50/50” while their wife works like a horse, pays bills, cooks, cleans, does laundry, raises the children, handles the house, and still gets cheated on - by a man whose hardest daily task is choosing between football, gaming, alcohol, weed or scrolling on his phone (when he's not cheating, that is).

In Islam, a woman’s money is her money. A man pays the bills. He maintains the home. He is accountable for his family. A woman isn’t even obligated to breastfeed her own child in Islamic law. Muslim women aren't expected to financially provide, raise children, manage the home, and pretend this exhaustion is empowerment.

Muslim children usually grow up with one mother and one father — not random new partners rotating through the house every year. We discipline our children instead of letting TikTok and iPads raise them. Oh, and teenage pregnancies in Muslim families are practically unheard of. As is being sexually abused by our family members and family friends.

We don’t glorify hookup culture, OnlyFans, porn, gambling, alcoholism, and getting high every weekend like it’s some enlightened lifestyle. This is not our idea of freedom.

Muslims care deeply for their parents and family members when they get old — we don't throw them into care homes, visit twice a year out of guilt, and gleefully wait for their deaths so we can cash in on our inheritances.

We avoid interest and debt because we believe being a slave to corrupt banks isn’t right or freedom. We happily give charity because helping people is an obligation for us, not a superficial performance.

So yeah, I agree with you. Islam is totally incompatible with Western values.

And since you seem so happy and proud to absorb the label of racist, here you go: you absolutely are a racist.

What have burning cars and statues during COVID got to do with racism?

As for the antisemitism on Pro Palestine marches I agree this a scourge on our society.

But this is hardly an example of a “silent majority”. People have (rightly) expressed their revulsion at antisemitism in our society. I am wholeheartedly behind them.

But people starting threads saying they think everyone should just get comfortable with being a little bit more racist do not have the interest of British Jews top of mind, however they twist the rhetoric.

Racism is racism. And its become more acceptable to be racist than at any time in my lifetime.

You are wrong. Chinese Muslim are ethnically different to the indigenous Chinese. And so on. If ethnically Chinese people worship Islam they remain Chinese
To follow the logic of what you are saying is that all Europeans must be Christians. If an Englishman converts to Islam does he become a Muslim? No
I know plenty of Muslims that do not practice Islam or follow its dictates they are all integrated follow western laws and social norms.

That tactic isn't going to work anymore. Do you remember burning cars, looting and statues being toppled during covid? Anti-semitism rife on Palestinian marches? When the public have observed enough they won't stay silent.

Really? Proof? Or are you just race baiting?

I think a lot of posters on here positively revel in saying racist stuff. It's a great time to be a racist. Very en vogue, and actively encouraged.