AIBU to think some people on here are way too obsessed with not being seen as racist?

Grateful for small mercies etc. The less educated our racists are, the better.

I note several posts calling anyone non-white " foreign" in the wake of this murder.

No. Digwa was British. So yes, some people manage to be racist just fine.

Very few groups it is acceptable to hate and Jews are included in that.

Well if being thought of as a racist leads you to bleed out after asking for help … I can understand why. People seem afraid, like they will be hurt or something if seen as a racist.

I am called a racist here all the damn time though for the most innocuous shit, I don’t care. Whatever it takes to take the bite out of this phrase. Shouldn’t matter anymore if you are called a racist for pointing out obvious things

I wonder how many of the current crop of racists will be able to quote from the Aeneid though?

The only bot is you because you don't believe anyone could have a different view. It's very telling the poster/s who keeps referring to the victim by his surname.

oh yes I don't see colour brigade and I need to tell everyone are all over social media and forums

yet many of them are very aware when someone is Jewish funny that

Are you referring to Lucy Connolly's tweet at the time of the Southport riots?

She pleaded guilty and her appeal against the sentence was turned down, which seems to suggest that the sentence wasn't excessive.

The judge's sentencing remarks are published here

Lucy Connolly: sentencing

I've read them, and the sentencing guidelines for the offence here

Incitement sentencing guidelines

and it seems clear to me that her offence fits 1A and the judge gave appropriate consideration to all factors in arriving at the sentence.

I'd be interested to hear where you think he went wrong and how that is an example of "two-tier" justice.

And people also forget racist stereotypes are not the same for every ethnicity. If the perpetrator had been a Black man it’s likely they would have been quick to believe the victim. So let’s not spin a tale that police are these racial justice warriors ffs.
100% agree with this.
Had he been black the police would have done things very differently.

The incident referred to as the Irish George Floyd last week was horrendous. A man from the Congo was pinned down by security guards in Dublin, he died, it’s awful and unnecessary. There has been protesting all week, a witch doctor carried out voodoo spells on the store and wishing all the customers will die, this weekend, a young black boy was murdered only 21 years old. A club promoter at a rap event, the same protestors won’t acknowledge this, in fact the club is promoting the next event without a whisper on the young boy because it was black lads fighting a black lad, same way when a black man committed a serious offence against a white person, there is uproar, the division is crazy.
At the same time as the crushing incident, a white man was robbed and murdered by two immigrants, it didn’t get the same outcry. Politicians in the street screaming about racism etc. it was silent for the white man murdered by two teenagers who recorded it and put it on twitter.

Completely agree, outrageous behaviour. He was clearly not a threat, no need for handcuffs at all. And then in his statement the father says that the attacker, as they were led to believe, was never handcuffed- even as he was taken away. And in the police station was taken to the kitchen to choose his food. The contrast in how the victim, and the attacker, were treated is too much to ignore.

They absolutely should have arrested him from the outset and not the guy with stab wounds lying bleeding out on the ground.

If i accidently mowed down and killed a pedestrian who for example staggered out into a road drunk i would anticipate being arrested pending investigation for death by dangerous driving whilst investigations were carried out and until clear evidence showed the actual course of events.

This is no different, an arrest is not a conviction, and individual judgements and one word against another are irrelevant.

Even if this had been a case of racism by Henry, Vickrum could still have easily been found guilty of manslaughter via carrying a bladed article or excessive force. A good reason in itself to arrest him and begin investigating.

I watch a lot of horrible things but passes this video was a step too far. When the police officer refused to believe he’d been stabbed, manhandling him, in the last moments of his life when he needed compassion the most, even death row inmates were given more decent treatment before they died. I cannot imagine how it feels to know that my loved one died under those circumstances. Poor sweetheart.
Those daggers aren’t illegal in Ireland for religious reasons.

The woman imprisoned for her racist tweet was ludicrous and demonstrated a two tier justice system imv

also what isn’t said is that the countries that many immigrants come from are extremely corrupt - it doesn’t bode well if you bring huge numbers into the country. I’m sure it’s part of the reasons our immigrants want to move here and don’t want to move back

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surely it would have been better if they had quickly assessed the situation and not automatically taken the word of one person though? They could have checked the condition of both of the people involved rather than just the one standing?

Why does not wanting to automatically assume the minority person is correct become lets go back to old fashioned racism?

As an alternative phrase, 'earnest stupidity' would cover a lot of it.

The logical thing, in this instance, would have been to arrest the brown guy in the the turban, because he was, in fact, a murdering bastard.

It's creating an environment of hypocrisy, fear and virtue-signalling. The contention of this thread is that this ultimately distorts behaviour and leads to the police putting an disproportionate focus on racism in some circumstances.

Shoosh… one must not report reality and facts. I mean, I don’t read reports of immigrants (legal & illegal) everyday committing violent crimes.

There is no housing crisis as immigrants don’t even need accommodation. Same with healthcare, they don’t need it because they’re so wonderful and better than us British proles.

Immigrants bring us their wonderful amazing food that is so much better than our British slop.

All immigrants are wonderful hard working people with no problems and who just want to make life for British people much better. They are here to show us the light and save us from ourselves.

We need more immigration.

Big brother is great

Big brother is watching

All hail big brother!

It's because many people who think they're woker-than-thou are hugely judgemental - you see it on here every day.

So many people are just waiting to be offended, and if they aren't offended, it spoils their day. There's a kind of person who thinks that if they spot something which might - however nuanced - be interpreted as racism, ageism, sexism etc it gives them Brownie points. Ugh...it's exhausting and very irritating.

People are clamouring about two-tier policing and I'm happy they are now aware this issue.
Pretending it's an issue that sees white people being overpoliced, however, is what makes their argument ridiculous. There are no statistics that supports this at all

Exactly!! Absolutely no stats supports this so I’m flabbergasted at how far this false claim has got and wish there was more pushback in the media using statistics to show the real two tier policing.

But no doubt reform et all will exploit the heck out of this tragic case and any other exceptional cases to make their point that it is a thing.

The Reform bots are back, it seems.

I agree @AmethystDeceiver

The police service was absolutely woeful in handling the victim; because they are, as usual hideously reactive, instead of treating him with dignity and compassion

Exactly, the police behaved terribly and also incredibly foolishly, but nothing to do with them being left wing “virtue signallers” - as if! Believe me many PoC can report instances where police did absolutely nothing for them to address racism when they reported it - and they hadn’t stabbed anyone!

And people also forget racist stereotypes are not the same for every ethnicity. If the perpetrator had been a Black man it’s likely they would have been quick to believe the victim. So let’s not spin a tale that police are these racial justice warriors ffs.